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  • Feb 28, 2021, 12:40 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Fine. Put it down. But I don't think you will.
    And I was right.

    Sorry to hear of your son. 42 is far too young.
  • Feb 28, 2021, 01:02 PM
    Wondergirl
    Please reread my post. I added a link to it about the teen in Plano (be sure to read it). Btw, your link doesn't work.
  • Feb 28, 2021, 01:09 PM
    Wondergirl
    The loving thing police could have done with the Plano teen:

    "Hey, guy, it's cold out here. Where's your jacket?"

    "I don't have far to go, so I didn't bother. And yup, I'm freezing!"

    "How far away is home?"

    "Not too far."

    "I've got a blanket in my squad car. How 'bout if I drive you home and you can warm up in the blanket meanwhile."

    "Don't you have police stuff to do?"

    "You're my 'police stuff' right now. Let's get you home asap!"
  • Feb 28, 2021, 01:10 PM
    jlisenbe
    My link works now.

    Do you guys ever, ever, ever read your own links? Yes, the teen said he thought it was race, but if you had bothered to go down further, you would have seen this from police body cams. You can't just reflexively blame the police on every occasion. READ YOUR OWN LINKS THOROUGHLY!!

    Quote:

    Reese lives with his mother and he was just a few blocks away from home.
    The teen repeatedly told Plano police that he was fine, but officers continued to follow him for a few minutes, according to video of the incident.
    “Dude, stop we are trying to help you,” Plano police said in the body camera video released on the department’s Facebook over the weekend.
    “I’m trying to get home,” Reese said.
    “All right, but you’re walking in the middle of the road,” an officer said.


    “I understand that. My bad,” Reese said.
    Reese later told KDFW-TV he was walking in the middle of the road because the sidewalk was covered in ice and snow.
    “Are you cold?” an officer asked.
    “No. I’m not,” the teen answered.
    “Do you want us to give you a ride?” a police officer asked.


    “No. I do this every night,” Reese said.
    In the video, the teen kept walking away from Plano police until an officer said he was being detained.
    “Let me go,” Reese said as he was being handcuffed.
    Plano police said the teen resisted their efforts to handcuff him.
    The arresting officer noted in his arrest report that although the teen committed the Class B misdemeanor offense of interference with public duties by resisting officers’ efforts to detain and handcuff him, the officers decided to seek to charge him only with pedestrian in the roadway, a Class C misdemeanor.
    When the police stop you, you don't just keep on walking. That was insanely stupid.
  • Feb 28, 2021, 01:12 PM
    Wondergirl
    Now, read MY link in its entirety. The conclusion of this case.

    “There’s a lot information that we know about this case that we didn’t know at the time,” Drain told the television station. “Those officers didn’t know his age. They didn’t know he was 18. They didn’t know he worked at Walmart. They didn’t know where he lived.”

    AND THEY DIDN'T ASK HIM!!!!

    “No. I do this every night,” Reese said.
    In the video, the teen kept walking away from Plano police until an officer said he was being detained.
    “Let me go,” Reese said as he was being handcuffed.
    Plano police said the teen resisted their efforts to handcuff him.

    Wonder why he resisted....
  • Feb 28, 2021, 01:20 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Now, read MY link in its entirety. The conclusion of this case.
    Your link was what I read. That you didn't read even close to all of it was obvious from this, "The last sentence says it all ("race was the issue") --" LOL. You thought his comment was the "last sentence".

    There is a real simple concept here you are missing. When the cops tell you to do something, barring the ultra-unreasonable, you do it. It's not complicated. You just knee-jerk are anti-cops. Typical liberal dem.
  • Feb 28, 2021, 01:30 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    “There’s a lot information that we know about this case that we didn’t know at the time,” Drain told the television station. “Those officers didn’t know his age. They didn’t know he was 18. They didn’t know he worked at Walmart. They didn’t know where he lived.”

    AND THEY DIDN'T ASK HIM!!!!

    “No. I do this every night,” Reese said.
    In the video, the teen kept walking away from Plano police until an officer said he was being detained.
    “Let me go,” Reese said as he was being handcuffed.
    Plano police said the teen resisted their efforts to handcuff him.
    So if you are 18, work at WM, and live nearby, then it's perfectly alright for you to walk in middle of the road at night, refuse to stop, resist arrest, and generally act like an insane idiot? Really?
  • Feb 28, 2021, 01:47 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    So if you are 18, work at WM, and live nearby, then it's perfectly all right for you to walk in middle of the road at night, refuse to stop, resist arrest, and generally act like an insane idiot? Really?
    Why was he stopped? The police must have seen the snow-packed sidewalks and that the easier walking could be done on the street. Why didn't the police let him go when he said he does that every night? Or engage him in a fruitful conversation instead of acting like punitive police?

    "We're worried about you. It's darn cold out here and we don't think you are dressed warmly enough."
  • Feb 28, 2021, 03:05 PM
    paraclete
    some people are just loners and there is always the question are the police trustworthy or do they have a hidden motive
  • Feb 28, 2021, 03:15 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Why was he stopped?
    According to the article you linked, "Plano police responded to a welfare call shortly before 11 p.m. on Feb. 16. A caller reported that a Black man wearing a short-sleeve shirt and shorts was walking down Hedgcoxe Road and was stumbling."

    Quote:

    Why didn't the police let him go when he said he does that every night?
    Why didn't the cops just let a teenager walk down the middle of the street at night? Well...

    Quote:

    "I've got a blanket in my squad car. How 'bout if I drive you home and you can warm up in the blanket meanwhile."

    "Don't you have police stuff to do?"

    "You're my 'police stuff' right now. Let's get you home asap!"
    They offered him a ride home. He refused it. Did you ever bother to read your own article???
  • Feb 28, 2021, 03:40 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Did you ever bother to read your own article???
    I just love love love playing dumb and making you actually read my link. ;-D
  • Mar 1, 2021, 09:10 AM
    talaniman
    They could have just followed him home instead of arresting him and making him spend the night in jail if they were so concerned. Or taken him to a hospital instead of jail, where they rendered no medical treatment. They later dropped charges that didn't need to be filed in the first place. Who was served and protected in this case?
  • Mar 1, 2021, 09:37 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I just love love love playing dumb and making you actually read my link
    I guess it's a good thing that at least one of us read it.
  • Mar 2, 2021, 04:47 AM
    talaniman
    That's like killing a guy for jaywalking, or 7 cops spraying and handcuffing a 9 year old. At what point do we call out bad police decisions and actions?
  • Mar 3, 2021, 07:15 PM
    paraclete
    when you start firing their arses
  • Mar 4, 2021, 01:50 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    when you start firing their arses

    They have "qualified immunity" which is a get out of jail free card. The Dems are trying to modify that. Also, they always say "I was in fear for my life", which the juries usually buy. Even when the video shows the cop shooting a fleeing suspect in the back.
  • Mar 4, 2021, 02:21 PM
    paraclete
    It all comes down to gun culture, the perps can be assumed to have a gun, the cops have guns
  • Mar 5, 2021, 10:43 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    They have "qualified immunity" which is a get out of jail free card. The Dems are trying to modify that. Also, they always say "I was in fear for my life", which the juries usually buy. Even when the video shows the cop shooting a fleeing suspect in the back.

    Let's not forget those AG's who refuse to even bring charges. So much for the law and order conservatives who want no reforms and holler about defunding by dems as a bad thing to appease the fringer screamers they depend on.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    It all comes down to gun culture, the perps can be assumed to have a gun, the cops have guns

    It's not the gun culture but the loony culture.
  • Mar 5, 2021, 01:58 PM
    paraclete
    yes looney gun culture
  • Mar 10, 2021, 05:53 AM
    jlisenbe
    Here is an example of our mentally alert pres at work. He can't remember the name of the Sec. of Defense, and he refers to the Department of Defense as "that outfit".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJ6AAoBUTA

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