Originally Posted by
Vacuum7
jlisenbe: You know it: The U.S. doesn't need to grovel in the dirt in an attempt to place nice with Mother Nature: We have what we need! Let the rest of the world find theirs, WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO GET BY!!!
Look, if Carbon Footprint is THE CRITERIA OF JUDGEMENT, then electric vehicles ARE NOT THE WAY TO GO....its a simple, straight forward comparative. And, guess what else? The damn batteries aren't even made in the U.S. because the process is so ENVIRONMENTALLY UNFRIENDLY! So, foreign countries employ foreign workforces to acquire revenues in the production of battery cells, all the while polluting the hell out of the environment so we can put these batteries in weak arse vehicles and run around proclaiming that we are helping the ENVIRONMENT AND SAVING THE PLANET! GOD HELP US ALL: The American People are entirely obsessed with the "Feel-Good" sensations....this is such a strange desire.
Tomder55: I am in production in the Pulp & Paper Industry: I can tell you that the U.S. P&P Industry SHOULD HAVE NEVER ENTERED INTO THE RECYCLING SCAM! We have more natural, reproducible, and superior fiber loads than any other nation in the world, challenged only by Canada (mismanaged Socialist nation/screwed-up industry) and Russia (vast woodstores much of which is yet to be harvested)….it is because the U.S. has all this VIRGIN fiber store that we should have never got sucked into the RECYCLE SCAM....by engaging in this mess, all we did was lose our 100% Virgin Fiber Exclusivity and become just another COMMODITY SUPPLIER to world markets....Foreign countries clamor to BUY our recycled fiber loads in pure rubbish form and they also seek to buy HIGH VIRGIN CONTENT CONTAINERBOARD MADE IN THE U.S. and they do this to OBTAIN our virgin fibers for their domestic packaging operations. These foreign competitors can compete with the U.S. when we make Recycled or Recycled Content papers but THEY CAN'T COMPETE WITH THE U.S. WHEN WE STICK TO 100% VIRGIN FIBER PAPER PRODUCTION. My point is: The U.S. doesn't need to roll around in the mud with the foreigners when WE HOLD THE ADVANTAGE! The U.S. needs to learn that when we get a guy down, SHINE YOUR BOOTS ON HIS ARSE, DON'T HELP HIM UP!