Paraclete: I am willing to let ALL the evidence come out and then decisions can be made intelligently.

This Hunter Biden, I found out, was kicked out of the Navy for drugs and then turned around and gained carnal knowledge of his brother's wife.....I don't know what he did or didn't do in the Ukraine but I know that I don't like him based off of those two facts....I am not Victorian nor am I a Puritan either but I draw the line on some things.

The whole affair with Ukraine will either be a bloodbath or it will blow over to nothing. Trump's ACE IN THE HOLE is AG Barr.

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This Hunter Biden, I found out, was kicked out of the Navy for drugs and then turned around and gained carnal knowledge of his brother's wife.....I don't know what he did or didn't do in the Ukraine but I know that I don't like him based off of those two facts....I am not Victorian nor am I a Puritan either but I draw the line on some things.

The whole affair with Ukraine will either be a bloodbath or it will blow over to nothing. Trump's ACE IN THE HOLE is AG Barr.

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"...gained carnal knowledge of his brother's wife..."! Good grief! Join the 21st century.

Anyway, you're dead wrong. They were both free agents. Hunter was separated from his wife, and his brother had died of brain cancer. You really should be more careful when assassinating someone's character. Tells us a lot about YOU.

As for the rest, it means nothing in the discussion over impeaching Trump. It's just another side-show distraction Trump is expert at when he needs to change the subject.

As far as Trump's ACE IN THE HOLE being AG Barr - what are you smoking? Barr is worse than Trump. At least Trump can plead Derangement Syndrome. Barr knows exactly what he's doing and will probably be criminally charged whereas Trump can only be impeached, not criminally charged (until he leaves office).

This seems like flogging a dead horse, it will be another case of nothing to see here

No doubt the president for profit would rather you look at his opponents which at the moment are the Bidens, than his own family, or what he is doing, both in the WH and outside of it. He certainly has enough sycophants and yes men around him to carry that out since he took over the repub party. He can stall all he wants but I hope dems keep up the pressure at least.

While it's not required to gather evidence, a vote in the House making the impeachment inquiry OFFICIAL would go a long way in swaying the courts to enforce all those subpoenas as well as a few more whistle blowers wouldn't hurt. LOL, the way to fight an unlawful bully is with the law. The dufus hates the law, because he is not above it despite the hype that he is.

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Exactly.

Athos: Making out with my dead brother's wife is just creepy....that's all I'm saying.

I have no problem with scrutinizing candidates for president myself, and have said so, but not at the expense of ignoring the guy who holds the offfice already as a fair comparison. You want to follow Biden and his kids money fine, but let's follow the dufus's and his kids money too! Sounds fair to me.

So far though the dufus and his sycophants don't want fair and never did. I mean would you love the dufus as much if you found out that he owes Vlad a fortune, and Vlad was demanding his money? Sound far fetched? Well shouldn't we at least check it out? I mean the guy has run scams before with charities and fake schools and even scammed the government in housing and barred from all those things so what makes you think he wouldn't find another sucker after those casinos failed?

Maybe we should be asking those other countries he deals with for an investigation? Oh wait, that's exactly what Nancy and the dems are trying to do. That sounds pretty fair too!

Yo Vac, if you think doing the wild thang with a sister in law is creepy, what do you think about poking a few porn stars and playboy bunnies behind your wifes back and paying them to keep it quiet?

Talaniman: I just don't want us to start "Investigating" every single accusation that comes down the pipe....these investigations are expensive! Like frivolous lawsuits....there has to be some kind of legitimate "Screening Process" for these things to be vetted as realistic and for them to move forward.....that's my only contention....if they clear those hurdles, then its full speed ahead. Otherwise its Salem, Mass. all over again!

I couldn't imagine any of the NASTY stuff you mention...not doing it myself......and, making out with my brother's wife is a disgusting thought, alive or dead.....Of course, that is NO CRIME, just a weird proclivity and says something about his character. No a fan of DANCING with someone other than the one that brought me.....you want to do that, go get a big "D", and I don't mean Dallas.

There is a vetting process for whistle blowers to follow, and so far they have. That's why it gets dumped in the relevant Inspector Generals lap, and evaluated and moved to the congress. The second WB just came out.

Same can be said of the duly appointed special councel Robert Mueller who made his report earlier in the year though few read it and the dems dropped the ball in presenting it to the public, and executing it's findings, while repubs just ignored it completely, and blasted the dems incompetence. Shame.

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I couldn't imagine any of the NASTY stuff you mention...not doing it myself......and, making out with my brother's wife is a disgusting thought, alive or dead.

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Your Old Testament doesn't think so. My guess is your repulsion re normal sex is not matched by a similar repulsion against inbreeding.

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that is NO CRIME, just a weird proclivity and says something about his character.

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It says ENORMOUSLY more about your character than his!

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It says ENORMOUSLY more about your character than his!

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Exactly correct, but not likely in the way you mean it. If you want to make an appeal to character, then I don't know I would appeal to the Bidens.

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Exactly correct, but not likely in the way you mean it. If you want to make an appeal to character, then I don't know I would appeal to the Bidens.

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I doubt you would appeal to the dufus either.

I couldn't imagine any of the NASTY stuff you mention...not doing it myself......and, making out with my brother's wife is a disgusting thought, alive or dead.
"Your Old Testament doesn't think so. My guess is your repulsion re normal sex is not matched by a similar repulsion against inbreeding."


Athos: Now why would YOU, OF ALL PEOPLE, JUST OUT OF THE CLEAR BLUE, EVOKE THE BIBLE INTO ANY CONVERSATION? Are you a CLOSET BIBLICAL SCHOLAR? For a man that hates Bible references, you certainly are quick to attempt to bring them to bear at your convenience.

Man, I didn't realize this before, but you've really got no standards and certainly no sense of decency, whatsoever.

TALK ABOUT NASTY! And, it looks like your lack of standards extends far and wide: When you back these weirdos, you back them to the hilt, don't you, no matter how far out in space they are: Obviously, the qualifier for you that they are acceptable is that they have to be "of the left", I guess. NORMAL SEX? Now, how would know it was normal of that it wasn't normal: You weren't there: Here's is what the rest of the world knows: Ain't nothing NORMAL about sleeping with your dead brother's wife, under any circumstance: AND IF YOU THINK IT IS, THAT SAYS LOADS ABOUT YOU, SPORT!

What did I say to illicit the smartass comment to me about inbreeding? What the hell makes you think that I think that is O.K.? Inbreeding is not O.K., either


that is NO CRIME, just a weird proclivity and says something about his character.
"It says ENORMOUSLY more about your character than his!"


It does? What kind of prism are you looking through: YOU ARE ONE TWISTED SISTER: How does my objection to someone screwing their dead brother's wife impugn MY CHARACTER? Love to hear your left spinning spiral on that one.

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I couldn't imagine any of the NASTY stuff you mention...not doing it myself......and, making out with my brother's wife is a disgusting thought, alive or dead.
"Your Old Testament doesn't think so. My guess is your repulsion re normal sex is not matched by a similar repulsion against inbreeding."
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Athos: Now why would YOU, OF ALL PEOPLE, JUST OUT OF THE CLEAR BLUE, EVOKE THE BIBLE INTO ANY CONVERSATION?

Man, I didn't realize this before, but you've really got no standards and certainly no sense of decency, whatsoever.

TALK ABOUT NASTY! And, it looks like your lack of standards extends far and wide: When you back these weirdos, you back them to the hilt, don't you, no matter how far out in space they are: Obviously, the qualifier for you that they are acceptable is that they have to be "of the left", I guess. NORMAL SEX? Now, how would know it was normal of that it wasn't normal: You weren't there: Here's is what the rest of the world knows: Ain't nothing NORMAL about sleeping with your dead brother's wife, under any circumstance: AND IF YOU THINK IT IS, THAT SAYS LOADS ABOUT YOU, SPORT!

What did I say to illicit the smartass comment to me about inbreeding? What the hell makes you think that I think that is O.K.? Inbreeding is not O.K., either


that is NO CRIME, just a weird proclivity and says something about his character.
"It says ENORMOUSLY more about your character than his!"


It does? What kind of prism are you looking through: YOU ARE ONE TWISTED SISTER: How does my objection to someone screwing their dead brother's wife impugn MY CHARACTER? Love to hear your left spinning spiral on that one.

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Too dopey to take the time to respond.

Athos: That's funny, you took time to DEFEND A DOPEHEAD named Biden but you can't defend your own words.....that is easy to figure out why: Your words can't be defended.

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Athos: That's funny, you took time to DEFEND A DOPEHEAD named Biden but you can't defend your own words.....that is easy to figure out why: Your words can't be defended.

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I agree with Athos. YOUR dopey response was too dopey to respond to.

That's fine that you choose to think that way but be aware: You are siding with Athos, the DEFENDER of A DOPEHEAD AND A MAN WHO SLEEPS WITH HIS DEAD BROTHER'S WIFE...A REAL WINNER OF A MAN.....And Athos, who for whatever twisted reason, the fellow who decided to insinuate that I thought that INBREEDING was acceptable behavior, and he knows, damn well, that he has never heard me make such a defense.....that is who you are siding with here.

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That's fine that you choose to think that way but be aware: You are siding with Athos, the DEFENDER of A DOPEHEAD AND A MAN WHO SLEEPS WITH HIS DEAD BROTHER'S WIFE...A REAL WINNER OF A MAN.....And Athos, who for whatever twisted reason, the fellow who decided to insinuate that I thought that INBREEDING was acceptable behavior, and he knows, damn well, that he has never heard me make such a defense.....that is who you are siding with here.

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What's wrong with sleeping with his dead brother's wife?

It sure sounds like you think sleeping with (btw, the first term used in this thread was "making out" -- now he's sleeping with her....?) one's sister-in-law is in-breeding ("a disgusting thought, dead or alive" -- your words that sound like you mean inbreeding).

W.G.: That is not what I said: What I said was that sleeping with/making out/gaining carnal knowledge of you dead brother's wife is not normal behavior and is not right, just sick behavior! All the women in this world and you choose your dead brother's wife: some kind of sick....Athos considers this to be normal.

I didn't say anything about "inbreeding", that was Athos when he told me that I probably thought had no problems with "inbreeding"......now, why would he say such a thing, what reason? He never heard me support such and abomination. I grew up on a farm, I know the dangers of inbreeding: its wrong.....and I don't care that European royal families thought it was just fine.