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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

How many welfare people have six kids, or even kids at all?

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THere are many with 10 or more kids... some by just as many different fathers.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

THere are many with 10 or more kids.....

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How do you know this? Where do these people live?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

How do you know this? Where do these people live?

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Public housing... where else.

Ask anyone that has ever workied in the Head Start program... they will back it up. That's why so many quit.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Public housing...where else.

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Where?

Hello again, Steve:

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Obamacare did nothing for her and it has nothing to do with whether Texas expands Medicaid,

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So, closing the government IS doing something for her? What?

Excon

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Where?

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THe projects... section 8 housing vouchers... any number of places where they don't have to pay market rate for rent like anyone with a job.

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THe projects....section 8 housing vouchers....any number of places where they don't have to pay market rate for rent like anyone with a job.

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And they don''t have jobs because they are shiftless and lazy?

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Originally Posted by talaniman

What hypocrites you guys are. You want the government spending cut, entitlements cut and then beeyatch because you don't get enough money from the government any more. My gosh that's what YOU wanted!!

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You must be talking to someone else because I didn't ask for a penny, I'm just telling you what it's like for someone who truly needs assistance. It sucks, and you guys want us all to have what she has.

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Hello again, Steve:
So, closing the government IS doing something for her? What?

excon

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She gets the same crappy treatment if the government is open or not.

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And they don''t have jobs because they are shiftless and lazy?

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Most of them... yes. Particularly if their parents and grandparents were on welfare as well.

I can understand people in very remote and rural areas not having opportunity... but it's a lame excuse for those who live in a major city.

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Most of them...yes. Particularly if their parents and grandparents were on welfare as well.

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What's the excuse if their parents are well-to-do?

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What's the excuse if their parents are well-to-do?

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Lazy...

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Lazy.....

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How about disabled or mentally ill?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

How about disabled or mentally ill?

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If they are mentally ill... why are they not in an institution?

As far as disabled... I see some seriously disabled people making it to work every morning... several in fact.. Don't know them personally... but I've seen thatm comig to work for over 10 years... barely able to operate a joystick controlled electric wheelchair. They work within a block of my office for different employers.

If there were all that disabled why are they on welfare and not SSI Disability?

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Originally Posted by smoothy

If they are mentally ill... why are they not in an institution?

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All mentally ill should be in institutions?

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As far as disabled... I see some seriously disabled people making it to work every morning... several in fact.. Don't know them personally... but I've seen thatm comig to work for over 10 years... barely able to operate a joystick controlled electric wheelchair. They work within a block of my office for different employers.

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You have jobs for the ones who can't find one?

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All mentally ill should be in institutions?

You have jobs for the ones who can't find one?

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If they have such a severe mental illness they can't hold a job or take care of themselves because it can't be sufficiently treated or controlled.. then yeah... they should.

There are jobs out there... they have to find them... I don't employ anyone myself... I work for a large corporation. And I haven't done what would be considered an entry level position (in my specific fielt) in over 30 years... You won't even get an interview for a job like I do unless you have 10+ years doing this work someplace else. And even then it would be another 10+ years after you got it to do what I do.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

If they have such a severe mental illness they can't hold a job or take care of themselves because it can't be sufficiently treated or controlled.. then yeah... they should.

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With meds, they can manage to live at home, but can't keep a job for various reasons.

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There are jobs out there... they have to find them... I don't employ anyone myself... I work for a large corporation.

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They have to find them... Um, factory work was sent overseas. That would have been perfect! Corporate jobs are not available or appropriate for everyone.

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With meds, they can manage to live at home, but can't keep a job for various reasons.

They have to find them.... Um, factory work was sent overseas. That would have been perfect! Corporate jobs are not available or appropriate for everyone.

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There are a LOT of jobs that aren't paper pusher jobs of various types, and aren't factory jobs... I don't have a desk, I've got a console that's L shaped got 20 feet of counter top... and rises 6 feet full of computer momitors, equipment and manuals. Used and shared by nobody else.

As per that individual in question... what happens to them when the parents die that they have been living with? And that day will come at some point.

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There are a LOT of jobs that aren't paper pusher jobs of various types... I don't have a desk, I've got a console that's L shaped got 20 feet of counter top... and rises 6 feet full of computer momitors, equipment and manuals.

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That's why I often suggest checking out the public library, nursing homes, hospitals, and other sites that offer entry-level jobs. I have a friend who lost his low-wage job, recently totaled his truck, and now has no transportation -- and lives in the middle of nowhere.

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As per that individual in question... what happens to them when the parents die that they have been living with? And that day will come at some point.

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Yup. I've got an adult autistic son that I will have to start thinking about. State funding for group homes has disappeared, family members are often few and far between, so what's the parent of a disabled child to do?

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That's why I often suggest checking out the public library, nursing homes, hospitals, and other sites that offer entry-level jobs. I have a friend who lost his low-wage job, recently totaled his truck, and now has no transportation -- and lives in the middle of nowhere.

Yup. I've got an adult autistic son that I will have to start thinking about. State funding for group homes has disappeared, family members are often few and far between, so what's the parent of a disabled child to do?

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I figured it was your son... but I wanted to leave it up to you if you wanted to reveal that or not.

In many places MOST of the people living on the streets fit the mentally ill description...

If they have family willing and able to care for them... great... but what happens if they don't... there are no institutions any more unless they are proven to be a danger, and that's usually AFTER something happens... so they end up on the streets where it does nobody any good.