Ask Me Help Desk - WHO are the job creators?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

That's all great, ex, but the only "industrial revolution" that this administration is friendly to is a "green" revolution and that's a farce.

Hello again, Steve:

Speaking as a businessman, I see NOTHING farcical about energy, or the JILLIONS to be made when the investments pan out. And, I have no doubt that they WILL pan out, because NEED is the engine of prosperity. Plus, I'm not ready to move into a yurt.

Besides, you, yourself complain about how much money the Goricle is making from it. What? You think that's the ONLY opportunity?

I leave you with this thought... I'm sure way back when, if somebody said that they were going to put transistors on a chip, somebody else called it a farce.

excon

No one can even really define what a "green job" is. This was his bluster in 2008:

"We'll invest $15 billion a year over the next decade in renewable energy, creating five million new green jobs that pay well, can't be outsourced and help end our dependence on foreign oil."

How's he doing? So far, $80 billion has been spent on an estimated 225,000 "green jobs" that have been "saved or created" according to his Council of Economic Advisers. That's $355,555 per job if my math is correct. A HUGE waste of taxpayer money. Give me $355,555 and I promise you I can create more than one job.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

No one can even really define what a "green job" is.

Bill Clinton has rattled off a list from time to time. Painting city rooftops white is one of them. City rooftop gardens is another. Urban gardens is another. Want more ideas?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...my-stupid.html

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

No one can even really define what a "green job" is. This was his bluster in 2008

Hello again, Steve:

Nice change up.

But, if you'll notice, my posts don't mention Obama or his policies.. Frankly, they represent what I would do, if you put ME in charge. Now, I don't know IF the government will follow my recommendations, or not... But, that's NOT going to stop me from making 'em.

excon

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Want more ideas?

Hello WG:

How about hiring a few people to build mirror farms in the desert? Plus, a few smaller ones up North. The sun shines up there too, doesn't it?

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello WG:

How about hiring a few people to build mirror farms in the desert? Plus, a few smaller ones up North. The sun shines up there too, doesn't it?

excon

Tell me more about how that would work. Sounds egotistical.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Tell me more about how that would work. Sounds egotistical.

World's Largest Solar Power Plant Coming To CA Mojave Desert | Inhabitat - Green Design Will Save the World

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Originally Posted by excon

Nice change up.

What changeup? It was a continuation of the previous thought.

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But, if you'll notice, my posts don't mention Obama or his policies

Of course I've noticed. It doesn't change the fact that this administration has been hostile to business.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Tell me more about how that would work. Sounds egotistical.

Hello again, WG:

I don't know about ego.. And, I'm using the wrong terminology. I googled mirror farms and it didn't do it.. All I know, is there are power plants in the Southeast desert that use mirrors to concentrate the suns energy to heat up vats of oil that boil water and make steam.. I read that a farm 10 miles by 10 miles could supply enough energy for the entire nation. The problem is that electricity can't be efficiently transported very far. That's why I suggested a few of these plants up north.

That's all I know, and it ain't much.

excon

Hello NK:

Man, you're Johnny on the spot!

excon

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

World’s Largest Solar Power Plant Coming To CA Mojave Desert | Inhabitat - Green Design Will Save the World

I was afraid cattle and desert creatures would stand in front of the mirrors and admire themselves. :D I'm glad I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Of course I've noticed. It doesn't change the fact that this administration has been hostile to business.

Hello again, Steve:

Hostile to business?? Dude! If you call making sure the banks don't SCREW their customers any more with those teeny, tiny pieces of paper that they send you in your credit card statement every now and then.. You know the ones.. They're written like that so you DON'T read them. They don't want you to read them, because they're raising your rates or changing your agreement in ways that you WOULDN'T like.

If you call fixing THAT being hostile to business, sign me up!

excon

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I was afraid cattle and desert creatures would stand in front of the mirrors and admire themselves. :D I'm glad I'm wrong.

I wasn't sure if you were making a funny or not. I'd need to hear the inflection in your voice and the smirk on your face. Damn this textual medium! :)

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I wasn't sure if you were making a funny or not. I'd need to hear the inflection in your voice and the smirk on your face. Damn this textual medium! :)

I'll virtually smirk and giggle next time. :)

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Originally Posted by excon

Hostile to business???

How about dragging them before Congress for telling the truth about Obamacare consequences? Threatening them with a boot on more than one part of their anatomy? Increased regulation, suing a company for creating jobs, threatening new taxes, slamming CEO's and on and on. The one sector where growth has occurred under Obama is government jobs.

We've been over this enough, all I did was inform you of what business is saying. If you don't believe them, oh well. If that many businessmen and women say they're holding back because of his policies and the uncertainty, someone should take heed instead of campaign trips across America.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

... all I did was inform you of what business is saying.

That seems more important to you than what people are saying, being screwed over by insurance companies or not being able to offer any health insurance at all. Are you more concerned with corporations than people?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

That seems more important to you than what people are saying, being screwed over by insurance companies or not being able to offer any health insurance at all.

That's the problem with you, NK, you base your opinion of me on assumptions.

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Are you more concerned with corporations than people?

Right, I'm the one who's been asking people to give a child a chance and you think I'm more concerned abut corporation than people? See? You don't pay attention to what I actually say.

What I will say is this, a corporation pays my salary and pays 100 percent of my health insurance. I SHOULD be concerned for it, and with the uncertainty Obamacare is creating and the way it's driving up costs I'm concerned I may not have insurance in the next year or two.

Here you go. Unlike the guy that robbed a bank because he needed health care, the guy who hoped he'd be shot for scaling the White House fence because he couldn't find a job seems to have been missed by the major networks.

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WASHINGTON (WUSA) -- The man who jumped a White House fence Tuesday night talked to us Wednesday after a court appearance.

James Dirk Crudup told 9NEWS the move was a cry for help because he can't find a job in this economy. Crudup says he jumped the fence with partial hopes of being shot by police because he has six kids with two women and felt like a deadbeat dad.

"Any real man would want to provide for their children and in today's economy it is so hard that especially when you have labors you can not make those achievements and the ridicule that I received and feel, you can't imagine," said Crudup.

As he president pivots to jobs for the 15th time maybe his "singular focus" on jobs could start with this fellow.

He wouldn't have to keep pivoting to jobs if the congress would do there job. We wouldn't be unemployed if the job creators would do there jobs, and we would have to blame one person if everybody was working instead of whining, especially the job creators who are complaining about uncertainty, who didn't whisper a peep about uncertainty when they tanked the economy, and are still making money hand over fist. Yeah they would be who I would listen to, (sarcasm)!!

So you whine about one guy whose trying, and keep giving money to the guy that really screwed you, and keeps screwing you, because fact is your paycheck is still the same as it was 15 years ago when your job creators ran overseas, and started creating jobs there. And still are.

Simply amazing how you rather put down one lousy guy who is trying to put a band aid on your booty for 3 freakin' years, because they one you worshiped has been screwing you for 15 YEARS. Fact is if it weren't for the Tea party, and republicans (right wing ones not the ones who have sense, and can see beyond their own nose), this recession would be behind us.

Now you can sit and be satisfied with the way things were done, but sooner or later you will have to evolve and grow to a better way of doing things. Doing nothing is not an option, and just so you know, Gore isn't the only on investing in a GREEN future, all the energy money guys are. Just ask T Boone Pickens what he is doing with his tax break money. Texas has more wind farms than any state, except California, but repubs are sitting on all his infrastructure, and grid upgrades. All you righties know is whine, obstruct, and blame every body but yourselves.

Too bad we ain't buying it no more. Now shut up and let us put that band aid on your butt, so we can debate about doing more, not less.

I got even more on the hypocrisy of your health care position, but that can wait.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Too bad we ain't buying it no more. Now shut up and let us put that band aid on your butt, so we can debate about doing more, not less.

Tell me how you really feel, tal. And while you're at it, whine about how Democrats thought more minorities should own homes so they forced lenders to loan money to people who weren't credit-worthy. Then you can whine about Democrats who repeatedly ignored Bush's 17 warnings about Freddie and Fannie and said NOTHING was wrong with them.

P.S. I wouldn't whine about one guy had it not been for the constant beating you guys gave Bush over jobs, Obama's repeated bluster about all the jobs he's "saved or created," the 5 million "green jobs" he's going to create, the joke that was "recovery summer," the stupid claims about how the economy is turning around and the fact they're still blaming Bush.