It is voluntary like paying income taxes is .

Directly from the text of the bill:

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''(a) PURPOSE.—The purpose of this section is to im-
Prove the well-being, health, and development of children
By enabling the establishment and expansion of high qual-
Ity programs providing voluntary home visitation for fami-
Lies with young children and families expecting children.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

it is voluntary like paying income taxes is .

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See my post. You lie or are ignorant, which one is it? (See? I learned that from you!)

''(a) PURPOSE.—The purpose of this section is to im-
Prove the well-being, health, and development of children
By enabling the establishment and expansion of high qual-
Ity programs providing voluntary home visitation for fami-
Lies with young children and families expecting children.

So why is anybody going to volunteer wanting this service?
Nobody likes when authorities comes to their house about their kids for whatever reasons.

I've seen gvt social workers at work in this country. It can be quite intrusive over the slimmest pretext... often prompted by a complaint by a neighbor with a grudge. . I've seen how voluntary compliance works . I mentioned before that the provision is written vaguely enough that it leaves these gvt. Workers who generally I do not trust ,wide disgression.

Another posting here recently related a story how an IRS flunky tried to intimidate a charitible organization because of it's political views. Who's to say that the same wouldn't apply when some field worker deems parents unworthy ?

I'll ignore your personal attack .

Hello N0:

I agree especially when you realize that the visiting bureaucrat is going to be keeping an eye out for any oldster he can kill.

excon

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Originally Posted by N0help4u

Nobody likes when authorities comes to their house about their kids for whatever reasons.

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Some people like having a nurse help to show a mother how to help the baby latch on properly or how to bathe a wriggly baby. What bits are you worried about?

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Well, it's clear you didn't read it. Nor have you read Steve's post on the subject, because he gave you the exact wording of the bill.

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Hello again, El:

You say "the exact wording of the bill", as though the exact wording MEANS something to you... How could any sane man think your words mean ANYTHING, when you take end of life consultation to mean "death panels"??

Well, I'm here to tell you, no SANE man would, and I don't.

excon

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Well, it's clear you didn't read it. Nor have you read Steve's post on the subject, because he gave you the exact wording of the bill.

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He didn't... then he lied.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

He didn't...then he lied.

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You keep saying that... but you haven't once been able to show it. Saying that he lied over and over again doesn't make it more true than the first time you said it.

And, NK, you still haven't answered my question.

Why is it the government's business to get involved in parenting?

I'm going to keep on pointing out that you haven't answered this question until you either answer it or admit that you don't have an answer.

Elliot

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Why is it the government's business to get involved in parenting?

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Ok you little spammer :)

It's not the government, it's nurses.

BTW you have issues with conduct on discussion boards. Check out Slashdot.org for what reasoned, respectful discussion looks like. Your posts would be buried deep there.

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Why is it the government's business to get involved in parenting?

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Hello again, El:

I'll answer... Because SOME segments of our society don't believe in teaching their children about real life. They'd rather teach them to pretend... So, the government is going to set them straight, before they grow up to be Republicans.

excon

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Ok you little spammer :)

It's not the government, it's nurses.

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Then what's it doing in a government bill?

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BTW you have issues with conduct on discussion boards. Check out Slashdot.org for what reasoned, respectful discussion looks like. Your posts would be buried deep there.

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I'm not on slashdot. I'm here, and I'm following YOUR lead in terms of ettiquette.

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Hello again, El:

I'll answer.... Because SOME segments of our society don't believe in teaching their children about real life. They'd rather teach them to pretend... So, the government is gonna set them straight, before they grow up to be Republicans.

excon

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So you believe that it is the government's job to be involved in thje political indoctrination of our children.

Thought so.

At least you're honest about it. That's more than I can say about NK.

Elliot

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So you believe that it is the government's job to be involved in thje political indoctrination of our children.

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Hello again, El:

Yeahhh... And, if the parent objects, they're going to send 'em to the FEMA DEATH CAMPS that Obama started. They're run by the "brown shirts" who work for ACORN.

I guess you can't tell when I'm ribbing you, huh? Might as well. When words don't mean anything anymore, what's left but BS?

excon

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So you believe that it is the government's job to be involved in thje political indoctrination of our children.

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I missed the part in that bill where they say they are going to politically indoctrinate the children. Can you point that out for me please?

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Then what's it doing in a government bill?

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'Cause that's where the funding comes from.

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I missed the part in that bill where they say they are going to politically indoctrinate the children. Can you point that out for me please?

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Hello NK:

It's not in there. I made it up. What?? The righty's are the only ones who can do that??

excon

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He didn't...then he lied.

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He lied? No, I make mistakes sometimes but I don't come here and lie. And in this post I quoted tom's excerpt from the bill, you aren't even on the same subject with this pathetic accusation.