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  • Feb 21, 2023, 06:37 AM
    tomder55
    Cancel culture's war on children's books authors continues
    They went after JK Rawling . They went after Dr Seuss . Who's next ?

    Add Roald Dahl to the list . His lifetime accomplishments speaks for themselves . A fighter pilot in WWII for the Brits ,an intel officer ,a diplomat .... he went on to become a famous author /poet . Some of his more famous work include. 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory' ,and 'Matilda . His books have sold more than 300 million copies and have been translated into 63 languages, while there have been numerous adaptations of his work for both the big and small screens. According to CNN.

    Roald Dahl book changes spark censorship spat - CNN Style

    Recent editions of his works have been altered like they did to Mark Twain to eliminate words no longer acceptable to the woke mob. "Sensitivity readers" were hired to scrutinize the text of his works with parts rewritten for a modern audience.

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    Edits have been made to descriptions of characters’ physical appearances. The word “fat” has been cut from every new edition of relevant books, while the word “ugly” has also been culled, the Daily Telegraph reported. Augustus Gloop in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is now described as “enormous”. In The Twits, Mrs Twit is no longer “ugly and beastly” but just “beastly”.
    Hundreds of changes were made to the original text – and some passages not written by Dahl have been added.
    Roald Dahl books rewritten to remove language deemed offensive | Roald Dahl | The Guardian

    Who is there to defend Dahl ? Salman Rushdi ;perhaps the first modern victim of the cancel culture jihad has piped in .

    Salman Rushdie on Twitter: "Roald Dahl was no angel but this is absurd censorship. Puffin Books and the Dahl estate should be ashamed." / Twitter

    Rushdi suffered for his courage in writing 'The Satanic Verses' with multiple stab wounds that cost him an eye as he spoke at a literary conference in upstate New York. His words have weight . He lives with the threat every day.

    Perhaps the words of Rushdie and Rawlings and Mario Vargas Llosa ,the Peruvian novelist who bravely speaks out and writes against dictators ,wokeness and censorship will some day reverse this trend of literary cancel culture ;for the sake of civilization
  • Feb 21, 2023, 09:44 AM
    Wondergirl
    Someone is going to have a lot of fun rewriting the Bible, the Koran, the Upanishads, the Bhavagad Gita, and so on.
  • Feb 21, 2023, 10:47 AM
    Curlyben
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Someone is going to have a lot of fun rewriting the Bible, the Koran, the Upanishads, the Bhavagad Gita, and so on.

    Gonna have a coronary when they get to Shakespeare, especially Romeo & Juliet...
  • Feb 21, 2023, 11:45 AM
    jlisenbe
    Well written post, CB. Sad commentary on the West as it exists now.
  • Feb 21, 2023, 04:50 PM
    jlisenbe
    Yet another example of the thought police at work.

    Quote:

    After a Christian charity worker who walked away from homosexuality following his conversion to Christ offered his powerful testimony on a radio show, law enforcement threatened him with possible jail time and a stiff fine for allegedly breaching his country’s law banning LGBT “conversion practices.”

    https://ads.lifesitenews.com/www/del...&cb=8162463b34
    The Maltese government’s action against Matthew Grech, 33, is believed to be the first of its kind and is being viewed as a test case by free speech groups and Christian organizations that aim to protect the rights of former gays and lesbians to tell their stories and live freely without harassment from LGBT groups. Some of the latter assert that Christian teaching on marriage and debate surrounding LGBT lifestyles must be treated as criminal offenses.

    Grech’s message is simple: A decade ago, he experienced conversion to Christ, realized that sexual acts outside of male/female marriage are a “sin,” and freely chose to give up the homosexual life he had been living.

    If convicted, he faces up to five months in prison and/or a fine of 5,000 Euros.
    Grech is one of a not insignificant number of former homosexuals and transgender men and women who face increasing opposition from media and government to telling their often-heroic stories to the public.
    Ex-gay threatened with jail time, fines for testifying about leaving homosexuality - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)
  • Feb 21, 2023, 04:55 PM
    Wondergirl
    One doesn't "walk away from" homosexuality.
  • Feb 21, 2023, 07:14 PM
    jlisenbe
    He did.
  • Feb 21, 2023, 07:21 PM
    Wondergirl
    Temporary. He can't escape.
  • Feb 21, 2023, 07:30 PM
    jlisenbe
    He did.
  • Feb 21, 2023, 07:47 PM
    Wondergirl
    Nope, it's not a choice. Ask him in a year how he feels. Ask in six months!

    "Being gay is simply a matter of one's nature; it's not a choice, despite what religion tries to claim. The people of religion have never truly known a homosexual if they feel this way. Most people can pick out a gay child at an early age; shouldn’t people of religion consider that before marking a person as damned? They could never know what it’s like to struggle against what society tells a person and what they know they are inside. Besides, if homosexuality was a choice, do you really think homosexuals would willingly choose the hardships, rejection, discrimination, and self-loathing that commonly come with “choosing” such a lifestyle?"
    https://pairedlife.com/gender-sexual...-Homosexuality
  • Feb 21, 2023, 08:50 PM
    jlisenbe
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    Nope, it's not a choice. Ask him in a year how he feels. Ask in six months!
    If you had bothered to read the article, you would know that it has been over ten years since he became a Christian and abandoned a homosexual lifestyle, so six months is not going to be a big deal.

    I don't know that he would say he no longer has a desire for same-gender sex, though that is possible, but he would say he has found the one who is far greater than the temptations of this world. That's what all of us say who are genuinely committed to Jesus. We are bombarded with temptations everyday, but the opportunity to move on with Christ is a far better opportunity and so we take it, regardless of what kind of temptation(s) we have to deal with. It's a matter of abandoning the lessor in order to have the greater.

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    Being gay is simply a matter of one's nature
    There is not so much as a shred of evidence to support that. It's just the usual pro-homosexual propaganda.
  • Feb 21, 2023, 09:09 PM
    Wondergirl
    Jesus certainly doesn't condemn the LGTBQ+ community. He understands how they came to be, what happened in the mother's womb during pregnancy.

    As that article says -- Besides, if homosexuality was a choice, do you really think homosexuals would willingly choose the hardships, rejection, discrimination, and self-loathing that commonly come with “choosing” such a lifestyle?

    P.S. And I don't believe that guy has "given up" his homosexuality. It doesn't work that way.
  • Feb 21, 2023, 09:26 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Jesus certainly doesn't condemn the LGTBQ+ community. He understands how they came to be, what happened in the mother's womb during pregnancy.
    And how do you know this? And please stop with the "mother's womb" nonsense. There is no evidence at all that differences in the womb account for same-sex desires. Not one ounce.

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    P.S. And I don't believe that guy has "given up" his homosexuality. It doesn't work that way.
    It did for him.
  • Feb 21, 2023, 09:35 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    As that article says -- Besides, if homosexuality was a choice, do you really think homosexuals would willingly choose the hardships, rejection, discrimination, and self-loathing that commonly come with “choosing” such a lifestyle?

    No one chooses homosexuality, just as no one chooses heterosexuality. It's what a person in born with.

    There's ample evidence to prove that, and anyone wishing to see that evidence only needs to do some investigating on the internet. When they say there is no evidence and can't find any, they're not trying hard enough.

    Homosexuals can choose to be celibate, but that does not change their sexuality.
  • Feb 21, 2023, 09:39 PM
    Wondergirl
    If you do some honest googling, you can find scientific information about what happens and can happen during pregnancy.

    Psychology Today said -- In a commentary published with the review, Cornell Human Development Professor Ritch Savin-Williams offers evidence of a continuum of sexual orientation that includes a wide variety of classifications, including people who are "mostly straight" with a small degree of same-sex attraction or people who are "mostly gay or lesbian" with some attraction to opposite-sex partners. Taking into account these groups, the prevalence of people experiencing at least some same-sex feelings may be much broader than is represented in many studies.

    "Traditionally, we’ve thought of sexual orientation in terms of three categories: you are or identify as straight, bisexual, or gay/lesbian," he explained. "But recent research from a different perspective strongly suggests that this view mischaracterizes a significant number of people who have varying degrees of opposite-sex and same-sex romantic and sexual attractions and the ratio might well vary across contexts and time. That is, rather than categories there is a spectrum of sexualities and the in-between points along a continuum constitute perhaps a quarter of all individuals, especially if you consider their infatuations, crushes, and romantic feelings."

    What the data do not tell us definitively is why people have different sexual orientations. But there is evidence that there are multiple contributing factors, some of which we don't yet understand.
    The most scientifically plausible theories, according to the review, propose that sexual orientation is a product of biology and social factors, to varying degrees for different people. --
  • Feb 22, 2023, 05:43 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    There's ample evidence to prove that, and anyone wishing to see that evidence only needs to do some investigating on the internet. When they say there is no evidence and can't find any, they're not trying hard enough.
    That's just the usual pitiful appeal, "I can't find it, so please do my work for me." No thanks. Do your own work.

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    What the data do not tell us definitively is why people have different sexual orientations. But there is evidence that there are multiple contributing factors, some of which we don't yet understand.

    The most scientifically plausible theories, according to the review, propose that sexual orientation is a product of biology and social factors, to varying degrees for different people. --
    Saying that, "sexual orientation is a product of biology and social factors, to varying degrees for different people," is basically an open admission that they have searched diligently and yet don't have a clue. Thank you for posting that, WG.

    People have a wide variety of sexual dysfunction. There are men who lust after little girls or little boys. Many people are addicted to porn. Some people want to have sex with animals. Many men want to cheat on their wives as frequently as possible. The list goes on and includes same-gender sex. They are all legitimate problems and should be viewed in that manner, as problems.

    I do know this. Jesus still changes lives for the good, and no problem is too great for him. If I had not chosen to follow him and trust in him when I was 23, then my life would have turned out much differently than it has. I certainly still have problems, but I would have been in darkness with very little hope without Jesus. There are many out there who once lived a homosexual lifestyle but then committed to Christ and overcame that. I know some of them.

    At any rate, the point was that Matthew Grech should be free to express his life experiences on radio in Malta or anywhere else. Others are then free to express publicly their agreement or disagreement with him in an open exchange of ideas. There is no acceptable reason for him to be jailed for doing so. It's woke culture on steroids.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 06:10 AM
    tomder55
    I am still in the DeSantis camp . However Vivek Ramaswarmy has announced his candidacy and I find his message appealing . He has has authored 2 books related to the discussions on this posting .
    'Woke, Inc.: Inside Corporate America's Social Justice Scam' and 'Nation of Victims: Identity Politics, the Death of Merit, and the Path Back to Excellence' .


    Summary from his article in the WSJ

    It may seem presumptuous for a 37-year-old political outsider to pursue the highest office in the land, but I am running on a vision for our nation—one that revives merit in every sphere of American life.

    We must restore merit for who gets to come to America. ....That means securing the border unapologetically and eliminating lottery-based immigration in favor of meritocratic admission.

    We must embrace merit in who gets to succeed in America. The Supreme Court appears poised to overturn racial preferences in college admissions. As president I will eliminate affirmative action across the American economy.

    We must revive merit in who gets to govern in America. Democracy depends on a simple principle: The people we elect to run the government must be the people who actually run the government. The next time unelected bureaucrats like Anthony Fauci or Merrick Garland reach beyond their legal scope, I commit to doing what the president is constitutionally empowered to do: fire them. I will repeal civil-service protections for federal employees, by executive order if necessary, and replace these managerial protections with sunset clauses. If the president can’t hold his position for more than eight years, neither should most bureaucrats.

    We must restore merit in determining which ideas win in America. The best ideas are born when no ideas are censored. Yet our government pressures technology companies to censor disfavored political speech and gives them special protections to carry it out.

    Viewpoint censorship extends beyond the internet and pervades our economy. If you can’t fire someone for being black, gay or Muslim, you shouldn’t be able to fire someone for his political speech. I will work with Congress to enshrine political expression as an American civil right, and I will enforce existing civil-rights laws to protect workers from invidious viewpoint discrimination.


    He says China is the real threat ;not Russia. Unlike the Soviet Union in 1980, China today powers the modern American way of life. We must declare economic independence.

    He wants America to become semi-conductor self sufficient . He wants America to become energy self sufficient and . He wants to reject the demands of a new climate religion that shackles the U.S. and leaves China untouched.
    He wants to hold China accountable to for covid. He wants to restrict and /or ban trade with China until they end technology theft and other mercantile predatory practices.

    Why I’m Running for President - WSJ
  • Feb 22, 2023, 06:24 AM
    jlisenbe
    Support Vivek Ramaswarmy!! Seriously, I do like his ideas. Maybe DeSantis can hire him in a couple of years.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 07:07 AM
    tomder55
    Candidates have come out of nowhere before .No one knew about Jimmy Carter until he started shaking hands with people in New Hampshire . Then there was another businessman turned politician .

    Too early to tell . Currently in the DeSantis camp. My favorite beat reporter did an article about him last week . Blue collar roots ;excelled at Yale and Harvard Law school . Joined the Navy out of college . As Guv he delivers .

    I like the cut of his jib .

    “Too much power has accumulated in DC and the result is a detached administrative state that rules over us and imposes its will on us,”

    Ron DeSantis takes The Post on tour of his Florida hometown (nypost.com)
  • Feb 22, 2023, 07:38 AM
    jlisenbe
    It's true that candidates have come "out of nowhere", but it's not to say they were unknown. Carter was a Georgia gov. Trump had been known for twenty years from television and business. Vivek Ramaswarmy? That would be a new definition of "nowhere".
  • Feb 22, 2023, 09:10 AM
    tomder55
    Yeah he may be the ultimate outsider .$ 6 billion + net worth .He can get the name recognition soon enough (if people can spell and pronounce his name .)


    The New American Dream - YouTube

    Maybe because he isn't a pol ,he can speak hard truths . Whether the nation listens is another story .
  • Feb 22, 2023, 09:25 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Maybe because he isn't a pol ,he can speak hard truths . Whether the nation listens is another story .
    Very true in both regards. It was certainly true with Trump. Enough listened to get him elected at any rate.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 09:58 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That's just the usual pitiful appeal, "I can't find it, so please do my work for me." No thanks. Do your own work.

    I did. I'm a career librarian but you always spit on the links I post. I found several valid, scientific ones and know that, with your sharp mind and inquisitive nature, you'd find them too -- all by yourself!!!

    Jesus changes hearts but He doesn't change who we are biologically.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 10:21 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    know that, with your sharp mind and inquisitive nature, you'd find them too -- all by yourself!!!
    Just be aware that I'm not going to accept that childish nonsense. If you have something, then post it. Otherwise, please stop this silliness of wanting me to do what you evidently cannot do.

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    I found several valid, scientific ones
    I don't think you have found any links to begin with, but I'm also convinced that your grasp of science is not sufficient to allow you make a judgment about a link that is scientifically "valid". I don't intend that to be mean, but just base it on past experience. But I invite you to show me that my opinion is not correct.

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    who we are biologically.
    Except that, again, there is no evidence for that. None, or at least none that I've ever seen.

    Quote:

    you always spit on the links I post
    I actually thanked you for your quote from yesterday. It was very useful.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 11:25 AM
    Wondergirl
    Here's one to chew on:
    Evidence for Neurohormonal Etiology

    A neurohormonal etiology of homosexuality is based on the reasoning that homosexuality (and sexual orientation in general) depends on the early sexual differentiation of hypothalamic brain structures. The differentiation of these brain structures depends on prenatal androgen action.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics...rogen%20action.

    Here's another:
    The hunt for ‘gay genes’

    The new finding is consistent with multiple earlier studies of twins that indicated same-sex attraction is a heritable trait.
    https://images.theconversation.com/f...w=237&fit=clip
    A new study suggests that genes are responsible for between 8% and 25% of same-sex preference. Guru 3DThe 2019 study is the latest in a hunt for “gay genes” that began in 1993, when Dean Hamer linked male homosexuality to a section of the X chromosome. As the ease and affordability of genome sequencing increased, additional gene candidates have emerged with potential links to homosexual behavior. So-called genome-wide association studies identified a gene called SLITRK6, which is active in a brain region called the diencephalon that differs in size between people who are homosexual or heterosexual.
    https://theconversation.com/stop-cal...xuality-122764
  • Feb 22, 2023, 12:04 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    A neurohormonal etiology of homosexuality is based on the reasoning that homosexuality (and sexual orientation in general) depends on the early sexual differentiation of hypothalamic brain structures.
    The first study fails when they assume the answer before beginning. They do this by basing the study on an unproven hypothesis, that sexual orientation, "depends on the early sexual differentiation of hypothalamic brain structures." Rather than proving that to be true, they simply assume it is true.

    And then as the article progresses, the one glaring omission is any evidence that this statement is true. " Therefore, homosexual men and heterosexual women have neural sexual orientation centers that are similar to each other and different from those of heterosexual men and homosexual women." It seems to be simply an assumption made by the author to back up his approach.


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    A new study suggests that genes are responsible for between 8% and 25% of same-sex preference.
    Are we really supposed to have confidence in a statement like this? First of all, the range is quite wide. Even worse, the study only "suggests" that range to begin with. But let's suppose that it's 10%. Then that means that the other 90% is non-genetic, in other words environmental. So that would not agree at all with your statement about, "who we are biologically." So your own article has worked against you, has it not?

    Now I am not "spitting on" your articles; I am questioning them. It is up to your now to respond academically.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 12:10 PM
    Wondergirl
    Get to know people in the LGBTQ+ community. Talk with them honestly. Become friends with some of them.

    Those two links are your opportunities to do further research. Now you have new terminology and reasoning you aren't familiar with. And you want to DISCUSS?! We've been down that very bumpy road in the recent past.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 12:12 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Get to know people in the LGBTQ+ community. Talk with them honestly. Become friends with some of them
    Too late. I've already done that.

    This was part of your article. It sure works against your idea that sexual orientation is purely a biological construct.
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    There is no reliable way to predict an individual's sexual orientation. Identical twins (even twins raised in separate families) show a higher concordance rate for sexual orientation than would be expected by chance alone, but nowhere near 100%, as would be expected if genetics were the sole determinant. Attempts to correlate brain imaging or levels of androgens and estrogens with sexual orientation have thus far been inconsistent at best. Although it is well established that parents tend to treat boys and girls differently, there is no evidence that parental behavior alters the developmental trajectory towards a particular sexual orientation.
    Now to be clear, I have no doubt that same-sex attraction is not merely a choice. I don't think it has a biological link, or at least not a predominant one, but there plainly seems to be a cause of some sort. I'm with you on that, but I'm not with you in suggesting that there is nothing to be done for it or in believing that we should regard it as normal.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 12:30 PM
    Wondergirl
    What's normal? Even the plant (https://www.sdlgbtn.com/can-plants-b...they-might-be/)
    and animal (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...exual_behavior)
    kingdoms aren't "normal".
  • Feb 22, 2023, 01:16 PM
    jlisenbe
    So nothing is abnormal? Sex with children? Sex with animals? Rape?

    I think there are a lot of behaviors that are "normal". Eating, for instance, is normal. Drinking is normal. Self-preservation is normal. And yes, men and women having sex is normal.

    And are you REALLY putting this forward as an argument that same-sex attraction is normal??? OK, I'll admit to spitting on this. It's just sillliness.

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    Although the concept of plants being gay may seem far-fetched, there is actually some evidence to suggest that plants may indeed have homosexual tendencies. For example, certain species of plants have been found to produce more flowers when they are growing near other members of the same species, regardless of whether those plants are male or female.

    Some scientists believe that this may be an evolutionary strategy on the part of the plants, as it ensures that a greater number of their pollen grains will come into contact with other members of their species (and thus increase the chances of reproduction). However, others have suggested that this behaviour may simply be a result of the plants’ attraction to members of their own species, regardless of gender.
    Note the uncertain modifiers I underlined. Those words are used to indicate that there is absolutely no certainty in what is being said. In other words, it is conjecture.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 01:23 PM
    Wondergirl
    Sex with children, with animals??? Boy, did you misread! No more links posted for your perusal!
  • Feb 22, 2023, 01:26 PM
    jlisenbe
    Read something last night that intrigued me. There was a book published several decades ago titled Evidence Which Demands a Verdict. The author suggested that the opposite has now become vogue. "A Verdict Which Demands Evidence".

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    Sex with children, with animals??? Boy, did you misread! No more links posted for your perusal!
    Please think more accurately. MUCH more accurately. My comment (So nothing is abnormal?) did not come from your links.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 02:33 PM
    Wondergirl
    What's wrong with being gay or lesbian? Or fat or ugly? (as per Roald Dahl books in Post #1)
  • Feb 22, 2023, 03:25 PM
    jlisenbe
    Being fat is, at the very least, physically an indicator of poor self-control and poor health. Being ugly is not wrong in any way. Many "ugly" people are beautiful in God's sight. Same-gender sex is spoken of as a moral wrong in many places in the Bible.

    I have no intention of rehashing, for the umpteenth time, the morality of same-gender sex. It has been talked to death here. Suffice it to say that when the Bible speaks of it, it is ALWAYS in the negative and NEVER in the positive. And marriage is ALWAYS between a man and a woman, and NEVER between two people of the same gender.

    The point with Dahl's books is that while people are free to simply not purchase or read them, they cross the line when they change the text to meet some supposed moral standard they profess.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 04:12 PM
    Wondergirl
    Not true. Plus the word word “homosexual” was accidentally inserted into the Bible back in 1946.

    God doesn't forbid honest and giving love between two adults, no matter their gender.

    Same with the Bible as with Dahl's books, "[people] cross the line when they change the text to meet some supposed moral standard they profess."
  • Feb 22, 2023, 05:14 PM
    jlisenbe
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    Not true. Plus the word word “homosexual” was accidentally inserted into the Bible back in 1946.
    A completely absurd allegation for which you, as usual, have not one shred of documentation other than, in all likelihood, a ridiculous movie that claims it is so. It is a farce. "Accidentally inserted"??? It's lunacy. And I should add that the NIV translates the word as, "men who have sex with men," though they doubtless did so accidentally. The word accidentally used prior to 46 was "sodomites", and that helps your cause none at all.

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    God doesn't forbid honest and giving love between two adults, no matter their gender.
    I completely agree with that, but he does forbid sex outside of marriage between a man and woman.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 05:41 PM
    Wondergirl
    Look it up, buddy! You're wrong about the translation. The word was used in 1946 in lieu of the Greek words “malakoi” and “arsenokoitai,” which actually translate to “effeminate” and “sexual pervert” — not “homosexual.”

    God forbids sex outside of marriage. Period. He doesn't tell us who we can love.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 08:41 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Look it up, buddy!
    God forbids sex outside of marriage? Well, Jesus described marriage as between a man and a woman. Thank you for that concession.

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    Look it up, buddy!
    I did so as I have done several times before. I doubt it will have much impact, but we'll see. So as to looking it up, how's this?

    1. Here are all of the major English translations of 1 Cor. 6:9. Note the overwhelming trend of translating arsenokoitai as "homosexual" or words that mean homosexual.
    https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/e...inthians%206:9
    2. Arsenokoitai clearly means homosexual. It comes from two Greek words which mean "men" and "bed". The meaning is clear.
    https://www.crossway.org/articles/wh...nokoitai-mean/
    3. The movie you are banking on describes an absurd fantasy where several dozen very serious, very highly-educated scholars look at a key word in the Greek NT and "accidentally" render it as homosexual. Then a grad student writes them to let them know of said mistake, but the letter arrives too late to make the change. It's a ridiculous story that is embarrassing to see you actually believe.
    4. Strong's online concordance renders it as, " a male engaging in same-gender sexual activity; a sodomite, pederast."
    https://biblehub.com/greek/733.htm
    5. There is, in all the Bible, not a single positive comment made regarding same-gender sex. It is described as outside the will of God on every occasion.
    6. I don't believe malakoi is ever translated "homosexual". Not sure why you would mention that.
    7. Even a cursory examination of male and female sex organs makes it clear that men and women are intended to be together and not male/male.

    Now I'm not doing this for WG. Her mind is made up with no regard for evidence and no amount of information will change it. Perhaps others will see this and gain some knowledge.

    I'm done with this. I should never have started it for the 27th (or whatever) time. The practice of making up the mind and then looking for evidence has led WG to this place.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 08:48 PM
    Wondergirl
    I'll call in dwashbur for help in understanding the Greek.
  • Feb 22, 2023, 10:10 PM
    jlisenbe
    Back to the topic, perhaps there is still some hope.

    Quote:

    European publishers said they will not make changes to Roald Dahl's books, arguing that his stories will "lose all their power" after a U.K. publishing company revealed it had rewritten some of the late author's work to remove potentially offensive language.
    Puffin Books, which published Dahl's classic works, hired sensitivity readers to update portions of the author's wording in the U.K. editions to ensure the books "can continue to be enjoyed by all today." The edits include new gender-neutral language and altered descriptions of certain physical appearances and were reportedly approved by Dahl's estate.
    In one example, the word "fat" has been replaced with "enormous" in reference to Augustus Gloop, the chubby character featured in "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory."
    European publishers refuse to change Roald Dahl's works: 'His humor is second to none' | Fox News

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