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The Chicoms float a spy balloon across Montana. Rather than simply getting rid of it, the admin puts this out.

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The White House said Friday it is "keeping all options on the table" regarding the Chinese spy balloon after President Biden followed "strong" recommendations from defense officials not to shoot down the aircraft due to safety to people on the ground.

So they were really afraid that a part of the balloon might fall on someone in heavily populated Montana? We can't figure out how to take down a balloon in a wooded area? Biden and the dems should be wearing MAMA caps. "Make Amerian Mediocre Again."

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shoot it down

When I get the time I will post my thoughts on the coming war with China.

Flashback July last year

Chinese buying farm land in Montana near nuke missile site ,

Report: Communist Chinese Buying Land Near Nukes in Montana (montanatalks.com)

Quid Pro Joe's sell out to China continues . (askmehelpdesk.com)

Montana is the home of 3 ICBM silo fields and a key Air Force base

Malmstrom Air Force Base | Base Overview & Info | MilitaryINSTALLATIONS (militaryonesource.mil)

The balloon glides merrily along. It is projected that it will cross over the upper southeastern portion of the country before ending up over the Atlantic. This current admin continues to do what it's best at which is...nothing. Thankfully, the debate over pronoun usage has continued to proceed at a rapid pace, an area where we doubtless have an enormous advantage of the Chicoms.

The Chinese must be watching all of this in amazement at how weak and ineffective the Biden admin has become.

I need to know if we did any jamming of it's transmissions . It was shot down off the beaches of South Carolina . Shooting it down was the right call

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Originally Posted by tomder55

It was shot down off the beaches of South Carolina . Shooting it down was the right call

Handled perfectly by Biden.

If not for the public outcry, it would be floating along in the Atlantic right now.

I need to know if we did any jamming of it's transmissions .

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Long before the shoot down, U.S. officials took steps to protect against the balloon's collection of sensitive information, mitigating its intelligence value to the Chinese.

F-22 Safely Shoots Down Chinese Spy Balloon Off South Carolina Coast > U.S. Department of Defense > Defense Department News

Officials in the Pentagon now claim that China floated balloons into US airspace 3 times during Trump's term. That statement surprised Mark Esper, the former Secretary of Defense.He said he was never made aware of this .

Now they are backing off of that. "Chinese spy balloons over US during Trump admin 'discovered after' he left office: senior Biden official."

Chinese spy balloons over US during Trump admin 'discovered after' he left office: senior Biden official | Fox News

Hardly handled perfectly .We have no indication that the balloon was ever detected or tracked until a bunch of people in Montana noticed it

The balloon flew from China ,over South Korea ,into Japanese air space ,over the Aleutian Island chain; into Alaska ,down through Canada, into continental US . Yet Clueless claims that it was not safe to shoot it down until it crossed the entire continent .

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What if it wasn't a "weather balloon" ? What if it wasn't just a spy balloon gathering intelligence ? What if it carrying a nuclear bomb . At 60,000 feet it would've made a heck of an EMP .

If this balloon or multiple balloons crossed that path then we have wasted a fortune on early warning systems .Forget about hypersonic or ICBMs . We can't prevent balloons from attacking .

"U.S. intelligence, not the Biden administration" assesses that "PRC (People's Republic of China) government surveillance balloons transited the continental U.S. briefly at least three times during the prior administration and once that we know of at the beginning of this administration, but never for this duration of time."

These would be the same "US Intelligence " who told us that Iraq had huge stockpiles of WMD...... the same "intelligence agencies that told us Trump and Russia was colluding to steal the 2016 election .....the same agencies that told us Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation.

Or were the balloons detected and our Intel agencies decided to not tell the Commander in Chief about them ? How about the Congressional oversight committees . They decided that the information was too important to reveal to them too ?

Was this kept secret because Hunter's Chinese handlers JiaQi Bao, and Patrick Ho ;told the" Big guy " to keep it under wraps ?

Hunter's connections with Bao ... a former Chinese government researcher who effectively ran Hunter's business dealings in China and encouraged Quid to run for President ;and Ho .... a former Secretary for Home Affairs in Hong Kong ,who Hunter called the F-ing spy chief of China ;were through his $5 million deal with China controlled CEFC .

Allegedly Clueless knew the balloon was in US skies on Jan 28 . But the public was not aware until Feb 2 when people saw the UFO .Why the lag ;the cover up ? Was it because he was trying to make the Blinken trip to China happen?

There was no talk about shooting the balloon down until after Trump and later emperor operative and former CIA chief Leon Panetta called for it to be shot down. Would Quid have shot it down without their's and public pressure to do so?

Has the $54 million+ Chinese "donations " to the Biden center affected his decisions regarding China ? Before he was Sec State Blinken served as managing director of the Penn Biden Center . How about the $31 million the Biden Crime family scored in 5 business deals with companies directly linked to the CCP ? Did that have an impact on his thinking ?

The Malmstrom Airforce Base in Montana that the balloon flew over houses silos for 150 Minuteman III ICBMs .....what the commander calls "the guardians of doomsday. "
To the Nuclear Airmen of Malmstrom > Malmstrom Air Force Base > Display (af.mil)

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Handled perfectly by Biden.

The incredible quote of the week. I suspect the handling was considered to have been done "perfectly" because "Biden" is not spelled T-r-u-m-p.

The Chinese gathered their intel ;and sent it to Beijing . The balloon itself was expendable . The one floating around Central America is scouting the US soft underbelly defenses .

What's rather interesting is how well the Chicoms were able to predict weather patterns so as to get these balloons, presumably, to go where they wanted them.

navigation systems help when one is aimlessly drifting with the wind . somehow on it's drift through continental US it managed stop overs at Malmstrom AF Base AND Whiteman AF Base in Missouri ;home of B2 stealth bombers .

How can a nav system work for a balloon which has no guidance mechanisms?

You are assuming it doesn't have guidance. I expect this moved around much like the US version 'Cold Star' .

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Raven Aerostar, a division of Raven Industries, produces the balloons. Raven said they consist of a flight control unit, powered by batteries that are charged using renewable solar panels. They also have a payload electronics package that controls flight safety, navigation and communications, Russell Van Der Werff, engineering director at Raven Aerostar, said in an interview.
Wind currents allow the balloon to float along a desired flight path, and the company takes advantage of different wind speeds and directions to move the balloon to the target area.

But that’s not all. Raven Aerostar uses a proprietary machine-learning algorithm that predicts wind directions and fuses incoming sensor data in real time, Van Der Werff said. The company also employs a software program to pilot and monitor its balloon fleet and has a mission operations center manned with trained flight engineers 24 hours a day, seven days a week, he added.

U.S. military’s newest weapon against China and Russia: Hot air - POLITICO

Interesting. I never would have guessed it.

with apologies to Nena The lyrics updated

'99 Luftballons '

You and I in a little toy shop
Buy a bag of balloons with the money we've got
Set them free at the break of dawn
'Til one by one, they were gone
Back at base, sparks in the software
Flash the message "Something's out there"
Floating in the summer sky
a white balloon go by

Floating in the summer sky
Panic bells, it's red alert
There's something here from somewhere else
The war machine springs to life
Opens up one eager eye
Focusing it on the sky
99 Decision Street
99 ministers meet
To worry, worry, super scurry
Call the troops out in a hurry
This is what we've waited for
This is it boys, this is war
The President is on the line
As a white balloon goes by
99 knights of the air
Ride super high-tech jet fighters
Everyone's a superhero
Everyone's a Captain Kirk
With orders to identify
To clarify and classify
Scrambling the winter sky
As a white balloon goes by
99 dreams I have had
In every one, a white balloon
It's all over, and I'm standing pretty
In this dust that was a city
If I could find a souvenir
Just to prove the world was here
And here is a white balloon
I think of you, and shoot it down .

NENA | 99 Luftballons (Live 2018) (HD) - YouTube

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Originally Posted by tomder55

with apologies to Nene

The group's name was Nena.

Do you believe in coincidences ?

North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) conducted 'Operation NOBLE DEFENDER' across multiple locations in the Arctic, Canada and the United States between January 15-31 .

The Chinese balloon meandered across multiple points of our early warning system within that time frame before being detected by citizens in Montana on February 2.

It was first detected in Alaskan air space north of the Aleutian Islands on January 28. North American Aerospace Defense Command determined it posed no threat or intelligence risk .

Did they inform the President ? NO . Why Not ?

January 30 ,it is determined by NORAD that it is a spy balloon. It is being tracked through Canada . Was Clueless informed ? No .

January 31 , It enters continental US in Idaho . Finally Clueless is briefed by the DOD.

He asks for options to shoot it down. At this point there are many opportunities to down the balloon where the only living things that would be in danger are prairie dogs and elk. The Pentagon has an exact path plotted but decides that instead of downing it they would cease any activity that could give the Chinese signal intel (SIGNIT)

February 1 . The balloon veers off of the path the Pentagon plotted and just happens to park over Malmstrom Air Force Base, one of three sites that operate and maintain the nation’s intercontinental ballistic missiles. F-22 jets are scrambled but still no action is taken . Clueless
directs the Pentagon to come up with options to shoot down the balloon as soon as it is safe to do so over U.S. territorial waters.
Sec State Blinken meet with Chinese embassy officials.(5 days after the balloon 1st entered US territory) .

February 2 , the government can't stay quiet anymore . The Pentagon makes a public statement Key members of Congress had not been briefed 6 days after the balloon entered US territory . Once they become aware they start to make noise legitimately asking why they have not been briefed .
Blinken decides to postpone his planned trip to China.

February 3 China claims it is a weather balloon that 'accidently' drifted into US airspace.

February 4 after travelling the length of continental US making stop overs at Malmstrom and Whiteman Airforce Base Missouri (where strategic stealth B2 bomber are housed ) it is finally shot down in the waters off of Myrtle Beach SC. The Pentagon claims it is a good thing that it took a week to down it because they were able to study it's capability .The Chinese say we violated international practices and said there will be repercussions .

The US is still recovering the remains of the balloon ;now submerged in sea water for a week further degrading the value of the remains .

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Senior officials said that it’s very early in the process and so far have only recovered pieces of evidence that were on the surface. Those pieces include the balloon, some wiring and a very small amount of electronics.
“We have not seen the payload which is where we expect to see the lion share of the electronics,” the senior official stated.
The FBI added that it’s still too early to determine the intent of the balloon.
Senior officials also said that this weekend’s weather may also impact the search.

FBI on Chinese surveillance balloon recovery off S.C. coast: ‘Much of the evidence remains underwater’ (wmbfnews.com)

Yesterday Clueless said it was 'NOT a major breach ' of US security .

'Handled perfectly by Biden'.

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'Handled perfectly by Biden'.

First words I thought of as well!

All of this casts doubt on the Hersh article. It is hard to imagine Biden being able to make bold decisions.

more likely he listens to his puppet masters .

We shot down a UFO over Alaska today . ABC is calling it a balloon but so far official word is it is a 'high-altitude object'

I bet it looked like this

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or this

https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...Eg&oe=63EC7674

It took 2 sidewinders to take down the UFO over Lake Huron A sidewinder costs $450,000 each .

The "spy balloon" pic is hilarious.

I'm surprised the Sidewinder would work at all. They are heat-seekers. What heat is there on the balloon?

I'm not sure the other 3 targets were balloons. The administration has been hush hush about that .

Very good point.

https://scontent.fmem1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...HA&oe=63F2B300

aint that the truth

White House spokesperson John Kirby said Tuesday the intelligence community is "considering as a leading explanation" that the three objects shot down over the weekend "could just be balloons tied to some commercial or benign purpose."

A 'leading explanation' is 3 downed objects were commercial, benign balloons, White House says - ABC News (go.com)

5 sidewinders used so far attacking balloons .

Maybe this would've been better

https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...UQ&oe=63F29BE0

A hobby group may have the answer to what the U.S. shot down over Canada last week - POLITICO

UFO shot down by $400k US missile may have been a $12 hobby balloon (nypost.com)

NY Post has a map of Chinese owned farm land in the US . Most of it is near military bases.

https://media.notthebee.com/articles...5794580812.jpg

Chinese-owned farmland next to 19 US military bases (nypost.com)

“It is alarming we do not have laws on the books that would prevent the Chinese from buying property in the US.”

As is the case in a number of areas, we are so focused on the really important things like proper usage of pronouns that there is just no time to worry about trivialities such as the Chinese buying up the country.

Now large drones that sound like Harley Davidson motorcycles are flying over New Jersey ;including military bases . Scores of people have reported sightings of them and taken photos of them . Just like the Chinese balloons ;the government tried to ignore them and keep people in the dark about them. When the compliant press began to notice the administration had to respond. National security spokesperson John Kirby says "nothing to see here " .

White House security adviser dismisses NJ drone sightings — here's what he claims they really are

These are not drone toys you can pick up at electronics stores . They are the type of drones that are being used in the Ukraine conflict ;ones that hover over targets for surveillance or attack .

Nothing to see here

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A Chinese national who lives in Northern California has been arrested on suspicion of flying a drone over Vandenberg Space Force Base and taking photos of the facility, the U.S. Department of Justice said Wednesday. Yinpiao Zhou, 39, a Chinese citizen living legally in the U.S., in Brentwood, Contra Costa County, has been charged with failure to register an aircraft not providing transportation and violation of national defense airspace, the Justice Department said in a statement.
He was arrested Tuesday at San Francisco International Airport as he prepared to board a flight to China and had been due to appear in court Wednesday.

Chinese man arrested, accused of flying drone over and taking photos of Vandenberg Space Force Base - CBS Los Angeles

Biden cannot leave too soon.

It would scare me . Video shows these are swarms of drones as big as SUVs

'Clearly something going on': NJ residents demanding answers over mysterious drones

Even Senator Spartacus notices .

Others who have spoken out are Senator Schmucky ;Gillibrand ; Richard Blumenthal (who wants them shot down) . NY Guv Hochel is going to investigate .

One rumor was they were coming from an Iranian mothership .
Pentagon says mystery New Jersey drones not from Iranian 'mothership'

The administration denied it ... I'm not so sure .
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GejSvD0W...jpg&name=small
(thanks to Babylon Bee )

If they need my assistance ;I trained to take them out

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_ftVrgJTl4w/s...Va5SEjoNRWVgEA

More lies from DHS

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"We have not been able to, and neither have state or local law enforcement authorities, corroborate any of the reported visual sightings. To the contrary, upon review of available imagery, it appears that many of the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft that are being operated lawfully."

New Jersey Drones 'Not a National Security Threat' Say FBI, DHS - AVSN

No problem..... if they are manned flights then tbe flight log has to be filed . Release the flight logs to the public.

btw that wall that Trump still wants to build ...... ??? Now that Trump will be President again he can take those stacked pieces of wall already constructed and assemble them.........right ?

Wrong.

Clueless Joe is auctioning them off in a garage sale.

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“They are taking it from three stations: Nogales, Tucson, and Three Points,” the border patrol agent, who was granted anonymity to speak freely, told The Daily Wire. “The goal is to move all of it off the border before Christmas.”

EXCLUSIVE: Biden Races To Sell Off Border Wall Parts Before Trump Takes Office