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  • Feb 11, 2022, 05:46 AM
    tomder55
    Another Black List victim
    The Brits had a music awards . They decided to make it a gender neutral award instead of awards for male and female artists

    Adele won the award for artist ,song of the year and album. While accepting it she said .“I understand why the name of this award has changed but I really love being a woman and being a female artist. I do!” "I’m really proud of us, I really, really am."

    She got thunderous applauds from the audience . But then the cancel culture attacked . She evidently is a TERF . What is a TERF ? Until today I had no idea.
    It means she is a trans-exclusionary radical feminist.. Is she one based on the fact that she loves being a woman ? And when did that become a bad thing ? The next step in the progression is that she is "transphobe" whether she actually is or not.

    Saying out loud that you’re proud to be a woman or a man is now offensive. Got that?


    It’s become apparent you’re at the risk of cancellation for just about anything you say or do.

    Wonder how this song would do at the awards shows :

    I'm a girl and by me that's only great
    I am proud that my silhouette is curvy
    That I walk with a sweet and girlish gait
    With my hips kind of swivelly and swervey

    I adore being dressed in something frilly
    When my date comes to get me at my place
    Out I go with my Joe or John or Billy
    Like a filly who is ready for the race

    When I have a brand new hairdo
    With my eyelashes all in curls
    I float as the clouds on air do
    I enjoy being a girl

    When men say I'm cute and funny
    And my teeth aren't teeth but pearls
    I just lap it up like honey
    I enjoy being a girl

    I flip when a fellow sends me flowers
    I drool over dresses made of lace
    I talk on the telephone for hours
    With a pound and a half of cream upon my face

    I'm strictly a female female
    And my future I hope will be
    In the home of a brave and free male
    Who'll enjoy being a guy, having a girl like me

    When men say I'm sweet as candy
    As around in a dance we whirl
    It goes to my head like brandy
    I enjoy being a girl

    With someone with eyes that smolder
    Says he loves every silken curl
    That falls on my ivory shoulder
    I enjoy being a girl

    When I hear a complementary whistle
    That greets my bikini by the sea
    I turn and I glower and I gristle
    But I'm happy to know the whistles meant for me

    I'm strictly a female female
    And my future I hope will be
    In the home of a brave and free male
    Who'll enjoy being a guy, having a girl like me


    I Enjoy Being A Girl Flower Drum Song Movie - YouTube
  • Feb 11, 2022, 09:59 AM
    Wondergirl
    A MtF artist is a woman. A FtM artist is a man. The trans people I'm friends with are very happy and proud to be the gender Mother Nature had programmed them to be during pregnancy, but had screwed up on their external sex organs.
  • Feb 11, 2022, 11:19 AM
    tomder55
    Why is Adele taking heat for saying she is proud to be a woman ? The woke crowd are the intolerant ones
  • Feb 11, 2022, 11:58 AM
    Wondergirl
    Terffers are complaining that Adele is proud to be a "REAL" woman?
  • Feb 11, 2022, 12:00 PM
    tomder55
    no they claim she is a TERF


    Adele's 'I Love Being a Woman' BRIT Awards Speech Sparks Transphobia Debate (newsweek.com)
  • Feb 11, 2022, 12:12 PM
    Wondergirl
    Obviously, they don't understand what transgender and transitioning are all about. Just more stupid people. The world is being swamped by stoopidity. And they very likely don't have library cards.
  • Feb 13, 2022, 05:51 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    are very happy and proud to be the gender Mother Nature had programmed them to be during pregnancy, but had screwed up on their external sex organs.
    A theory founded on basically nothing. There is no evidence at all to back that idea up. A person could just as well say that "Mother Nature" programmed him/her to be a dog or a cat.

    I would want to tell those friends of yours that Jesus is still changing lives.
  • Feb 13, 2022, 10:11 AM
    Wondergirl
    It isn't a choice. Do some honest googling. You'll be amazed at what Mother Nature can do to a fetus before it's born. Why are you right-handed (or left-handed)? When did you choose that? Why do some teens chose to have acne?
  • Feb 13, 2022, 02:14 PM
    jlisenbe
    Anytime someone says to me, "Do some honest googling," I regard it as an open admission that they have no evidence to back up his/her ideas.

    As to what Mother Nature can do to a fetus, what is really amazing is what abortionists can do to them. But even if what you are saying is correct, and you have no evidence that it is, it certainly does not make it desirable, normal, or something to celebrate.
  • Feb 13, 2022, 02:27 PM
    Wondergirl
    You always spit on my links. So why bother. It's there for you to find if you do an honest search with good keywords.

    Again I ask: Why are you right-handed (or left-handed)? When did you choose that? Why do some teens chose to have acne?

    At what point in your fetal development did you choose to be Caucasian?
  • Feb 13, 2022, 02:43 PM
    jlisenbe
    Lots of nice questions. No evidence.

    I don't spit on links, but I do analyze them.

    And again, "But even if what you are saying is correct, and you have no evidence that it is, it certainly does not make it desirable, normal, or something to celebrate."
  • Feb 13, 2022, 02:58 PM
    Wondergirl
    it certainly does not make it desirable, normal, or something to celebrate.

    "It"? causing a child to be left-handed? Being Black or Caucasian?

    Ah, no honest searches by you. Figures.

    Why am I right-handed and my son was left-handed?
  • Feb 13, 2022, 03:12 PM
    jlisenbe
    It is your job to validate your points, not mine. You must stir yourself up to some honest research. Don't expect others to do your work for you.

    I don't care about left handedness. It is unimportant to this discussion. Race is clearly genetically based in the same manner that gender is. You can no more "choose" your race than you can choose your gender. Thank you for providing the perfect comparison.
  • Feb 13, 2022, 03:16 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I don't care about left handedness. It is unimportant to this discussion. Race is clearly genetically based.

    ...as is gender identity outside the male-female binary.
  • Feb 13, 2022, 03:22 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    ...as is gender identity outside the male-female binary.
    There is no evidence at all to support a genetic connection to something beyond male/female genders...period. So as I said above, you have provided the perfect comparison. Thank you.
  • Feb 13, 2022, 03:23 PM
    tomder55
    Adele identifies as a woman;and that appears to be something that is cancelling .
  • Feb 13, 2022, 03:25 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Adele identifies as a woman
    Who would ever have thought that a woman identifying as a woman would cause a problem. What a crazy world we are now in.
  • Feb 13, 2022, 03:27 PM
    Wondergirl
    No evidence? Those non-binary people are all around you, may even be related to you. I daily chat with many, including FB friends.

    Adele is female. I am female. My husband is male. No cancelling necessary. There's room for all.
  • Feb 13, 2022, 05:30 PM
    jlisenbe
    Anecdotal stories don’t help your case.
  • Feb 13, 2022, 06:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Anecdotal stories??? What? You want them to take off their underwear?
  • Feb 14, 2022, 09:01 AM
    tomder55
    The Transgender Movement is A Modern-Day Castration Cult – Issues & Insights (issuesinsights.com)
  • Feb 14, 2022, 04:55 PM
    jlisenbe
    Interesting insights, especially the first paragraph.

    Quote:

    As a psychologist, I was invariably sympathetic with individuals who had gender dysphoria and/or became transgender, even though the latter was distasteful to me. However, in recent years I have become deeply antagonistic towards such persons, principally because they have targeted children for chemical and physical mutilation.

    The present-day transgender movement can best be understood as simply being one of those castration cults that crop up in history from time to time (some may argue that it is not truly a castration cult since girls are taking part, but the basic principle of genital mutilation applies). The movement began with a minor celebrity in America announcing that he had transitioned into a female identity and the subsequently coordinated torrent of adulation from the media that followed.

    The popular media’s reaction was very effusive in its approval and of long duration. The clamor was such that he was suddenly awarded the Social Media Queen award, was named one of Glamour’s 25 Glamour Women of the Year, one of 2015 Entertainers of the Year, Barbara Walter’s Most Fascinating Person of 2015, was listed in Time 100, was put in the Vanity Fair and Sports Illustrated covers (both very photoshopped), and given the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. “For being courageous! So very courageous! I’m so inspired by how courageous he/she/it is! Aren’t you?”
  • Feb 14, 2022, 05:42 PM
    Wondergirl
    That article is a falsehood, a total lie. CT is the evildoer. Transgenders don't go after kids. Straight white males do.
  • Feb 14, 2022, 06:09 PM
    jlisenbe
    It is absolutely true that the the pro-transgender movement is aiming at schoolkids.
  • Feb 14, 2022, 06:20 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It is absolutely true that the the pro-transgender movement is aiming at schoolkids.

    Whoever it is, it isn't transgenders. They have far too many personal, health, and social problems to be attacking anybody.
  • Feb 14, 2022, 06:22 PM
    jlisenbe
    Google it. It's all over the web.
  • Feb 14, 2022, 06:26 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Google it. It's all over the web.

    So is a lot of other crap. I KNOW and am in personal contact with enough transgenders to know this is a lie. Obviously, straight white males (and females?), probably fundie white Christians, dreamt this up to make transgenders scary people.
  • Feb 14, 2022, 06:37 PM
    jlisenbe
    You can start here. https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/06/15118/

    Quote:

    I KNOW and am in personal contact with enough transgenders to know this is a lie
    Oh please. You know one tenth of one tenth of one tenth of one percent of the TG persons in America, and you think you can speak for all of them? Surely you realize how silly such an idea is.

    This quote was priceless.
    Quote:

    In this regards, let me quote Lincoln: “How many legs does a dog have if you call his tail a leg?” asked the president, who answered his own question: “Four. Saying that a tail is a leg doesn’t make it a leg.”
    Quote:

    probably fundie white Christians
    Wow. Talk about prejudice, there it is.
  • Feb 14, 2022, 06:43 PM
    Wondergirl
    I'm not going to start anywhere. Talk about hate!!! And rank STUPIDITY!!! Why are these people so anti transgenders? Lemme guess....

    That psychologist should have their license removed.
  • Feb 14, 2022, 07:44 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Oh please. You know one tenth of one tenth of one tenth of one percent of the TG persons in America, and you think you can speak for all of them? Surely you realize how silly such an idea is.

    You have NO idea. You must be one of the people mentioned in 1 Timothy 1:7.
  • Feb 14, 2022, 07:57 PM
    jlisenbe
    Dear Wondergirl. You surely must understand that any claim to know what a large group of people believe or do because you know a handful of them is far from compelling.
  • Feb 14, 2022, 08:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Dear Wondergirl. You surely must understand that any claim to know what a large group of people believe or do because you know a handful of them is far from compelling.

    Handful? Surely you jest. Well, knowing now what a bigot you are, I won't waste my time filling you in.
  • Feb 14, 2022, 08:17 PM
    jlisenbe
    I’m a bigot for pointing out your flawed reasoning? I don’t think so.

    It has long amazed me how some people love to just throw names and accusations around. If someone does not agree with them, then that person somehow becomes a bigot, or one of the people in 1 Timothy 4, or a "fundie white Christian". It seems sad to me not to simply argue the merits of your ideas.

    And yes, I understand that I have been guilty myself. Perhaps we can all put a stop to it.
  • Feb 16, 2022, 04:33 AM
    tomder55
    Nearly 40 Percent of U.S. Gen Zs, 30 Percent of Young Christians Identify as LGBTQ, Poll Shows (newsweek.com)

    I don't know the actual percentage . But it is not 40 % . If the poll said "tolerate it", or "no problem with it" then maybe it would be believable . But identify ? Come on man ! You are talking about 40 million young adults maybe more .

    This is a rich nation's obsessive problem . People in other nations concern themselves with the struggle for food, water, shelter ,basic freedoms ,violent wars of revolution; terrorism or narco violence.

    In America for the most part life's basic needs are met .

    The Poorest 20% of Americans Are Richer on Average Than Most European Nations - Foundation for Economic Education (fee.org)

    That gives this generation the luxury of the delusions of having an alternate life . This is a fad driven by the media and the academia pseudo-intellectual class that indoctrinate the youth with this drivel instead of reinforcing the principles that created and made this nation. They attack Christianity, limited government, individual liberty , responsibility, and capitalism,
    To identify as a transformer immediately puts one into an oppressed class ;and as has been noted ,to be woke is to identify as part of a victim group.
  • Feb 16, 2022, 05:35 AM
    jlisenbe
    Yep. 40% is an absurd claim if they are claiming to BE LGBTQ. But even if it merely means "supports", it is an alarming truth, and in particular the 30% claim relating to young Christians. There is a delusion spreading in the church that a person can be a practicing homosexual and still be Christian. That is clearly disputed in several places in the Bible but it still spreads among that part of the church that really is not Bible centered to begin with. It seems to center around the idea that the Sermon on the Mount is the core of the Christian faith. The idea of a genuine commitment to Christ with a resulting new birth and a decision to truly follow Him rather than sin is shoved into the background.
  • Feb 16, 2022, 07:12 PM
    Wondergirl
    What is a "practicing homosexual"? Is that like a "practicing heterosexual"? Both need to practice?
  • Feb 16, 2022, 07:25 PM
    jlisenbe
    Definition of “practicing”. Actively following a specific way of life.
  • Feb 16, 2022, 07:33 PM
    Wondergirl
    Neither of those is "a way of life" that is practiced.

    "Lemme see now. This week I'm going to be homosexual. Next week I'll be heterosexual."
  • Feb 16, 2022, 07:49 PM
    jlisenbe
    Of course they are a way of life.
  • Feb 16, 2022, 07:51 PM
    Wondergirl
    A way of life that's chosen?

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