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Trump sycophant Pompeo will meet with Saudi Arabia today when he promises to discuss the brutal murder by Saudi Arabia of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
Of course, he will do nothing of the sort. Trump has already approved Khashoggi's execution.
Trump clearly signaled that it's ok to murder an American journalist as long as the murderous country does business with his administration.
This is what the Trump leadership has brought America down to.
Because he worked in america doesn't make him american otherwise you have guilt by association
He was nationalized and under the US protection. But I see no evidence that Trump approved it any more than the emperor approving the multitude of human rights violations and murders and kidnapping of Americans that happened in the time the emperor was sending plane loads of cash to the 12ers in Tehran.
That cash was the settlement of a decades-old arbitration claim between the U.S. and Iran.
While this is true ;what did the 12ers do to get the cash released ? Me I would've used the money for the thousands of Americans who lost their lives or were maimed from IEDs made in Iran and used against Americans by Iranian KUD forces in Iraq or Iraninan proxies . https://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/10/w...10weapons.html
But ok . You are ok with Iran executions of women by stoning ? Where is the outrage ? Where is the condemnation ? I find it interesting that the left hates American allies more than it's foes.
It was Iran's money, not ours.
I'm a Republican.
I did not say Democrat . The cash was a bribe to get hostages released .You can't sugar coat that . The money was supposed to go to American families who had won court cases against the messianic homicidal regime in Tehran for Iran backed kidnapping and terrorist attacks . That was a deal Bubba had . The plane loads of cash was ransom pure and simple.
Has Iran produced a bomb? Perhaps they kept their part of the bargain, unlike Trump who thinks repudiating treaties is a life style choice
Clete you know and I know that the NORKS run Iran's laboratory .
Seriously I think NK is freelance and Kim will build one for you if you want, suitcase bombs going cheapQuote:
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It is incontrovertible .Iranian scientist attend NORK nuke tests . They share scud missile technology .
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Then you didn't see ABC, NBC, FOX, MSNBC, CBS, WNET, CNN and every left-wing and right-wing media outlet. (Judge Jeanine and Hannity may have denied it).
Trump "signaled" his approval. If you missed it, you're blind.
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When Trump is criticized, why do you divert the discussion to something else? Usually Obama or Hillary or the Dems. Diverting from Trump's culpability in this instance doesn't do much for your intelligence.
And this means Iran possesses a bomb as distinct from data, I don't think anyone is suggesting they aren't capable, but the smoking gun hasn't been found, however much Israel might hopeQuote:
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That cash was the settlement of a decades-old arbitration claim between the U.S. and Iran.
It would be no different than if we had handed Nazi Germany billions of dollars. It's just completely inexcusable to fund a terrorist state. If Trump had done that you would be turning red by now. As I oftentimes say, it's all about politics.
Iran agreed to inspections of it's nuclear facilities and verify they were not making bomb grade plutonium. The dufus pulled out but the Europeans are still in it. That's not to say they cannot just buy a nuke at discount rates from Kim or Vlad, but putting the right wing noise machine's account aside, the dufus is the one shaking down our allies, and smoozing our enemies. Where is the Dufus's outrage over the very human rights issues that his "friends" perpetrate?Quote:
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And of course there would be no way to get around all of that and do something hidden.Quote:
Iran agreed to inspections of it's nuclear facilities and verify they were not making bomb grade plutonium. The dufus pulled out but the Europeans are still in it.
I can concede that point but am amused that you blasted Hillary and investigated her over Benghazi, but not a peep over Khashoggi.
Clinton and Obama were personally negligent and that led to the deaths of four Americans. I don't know of anyone rational who suggests that Trump had anything to do with the death of Khashoggi.Quote:
I can concede that point but am amused that you blasted Hillary and investigated her over Benghazi, but not a peep over Khashoggi.
That's not what the official review of the situation found, just your version. The jury is still debating the context of the Dufus's action and it don't look good so far.
What you are saying is that there is an ongoing talk fest, if there was a case to answer an indictment would be brought, otherwise it is just another political kangaroo courtQuote:
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Over the past 40 years there have been several Special Counsel investigations of which the current one under Mueller has been the shortest so far. Plus he already has both indictments and convictions.
There is no evidence of Russian collusion, but even if there was, collusion is not a crime.
But treason is.
You can't say treason, such a charge is ridiculous. Trump can be impeached for high crimes, but being a businessman with business in Russia is not a crime
Treason is a crime. So is murder, and you have about as much evidence against Trump for one as you do the other. It's just an absurd statement driven by a hatred of all things even related to Trump. But at least you are prepared to agree that collusion is not a crime, so that is progress.
Obstruction of justice, and conspiracy are crimes punishable by fines, jail, or both. Cohen has implicated the dufus in campaign finance crimes, and the meeting at the Trump Tower with agents of the Russian government to lift sanctions without reporting such a meeting to the proper authorities may well be a conspiracy, as well as a quid pro quo agreement between the dufus and Vlad which is also a crime as well as his public statements around the firing of Comey.
If the Saudis had not bought out rooms in trump Tower he would have lost money which could be a violation of the emoluments clause of the constitution and that's in court now and just another example of shady dealings both in business and government. The government being shut down over this "WALL" issue does nothing but erode the faith in government and only brings chaos into the lives of workers especially those already living from paycheck to paycheck.
Sure the dufus has a core of support from this fiasco but on the whole every day without a resolution brings a greater discontent and costs the economy money. Yeah, I would say there is plenty of stuff to examine very closely here folks.
"Someone said." "It might be." "Faith eroding in government."
Do you have any real evidence about illegal actions taken by Trump himself?
That is reserved for the court process and we will just have to wait for the outcomes. I can only note again the convictions already of the dufus cronies and cabinet members as a good reason that it's ongoing and more to come... FOR SURE!
Most of the time, as in practically all of the time, the court process doesn't begin until convincing evidence can be presented. You have it backwards. Again, politics.
Point taken but I respectfully submit that the smaller fish are being fried systematically, and it's far from a done deal that there is NO evidence that will lead to the bigger fish. That's wishful thinking for dufus supporters. The dufus is NOT off the hook, probably why he has upped his lawyers to 36, and will add more.
You are right about that and I'll agree with you. Just try to contain your gleeful anticipation!Quote:
it's far from a done deal that there is NO evidence that will lead to the bigger fish.
Oh I can't wait, the suspense is killing me
Trump Derangement Syndrome! Get treatment as soon as possible.
There is only one cure
Correct. The treatment is "Hillary Observation Therapy". Just go back and look at her history and credentials and like a miracle, Trump starts to look pretty good! Works for me every time.
And No, I cannot look upon that list of failures, it is depressing. I know it seems Trump has achieved something, it used to be called the power of positive thinking, but he too has so many failures. He doesn't understand that to speak isn't to act, to articulate a dream isn't to have someone fulfill it, and he dreams of the wrong thing, walls and divisions politicians bowing down to his divine will. There is nothing new in his policies, he did not think of a wall first, he did not think about health care first, he did not think about military first, he did not think about ending war first, but politics is the art of the possible, not the art of bullying
'Clete, have you read The Art of the Deal?
"My style of deal-making is quite simple and straightforward. I aim very high, and then I just keep pushing and pushing and pushing to get what I’m after.”
"One thing I’ve learned about the press is that they’re always hungry for a good story, and the more sensational the better…The point is that if you are a little different, a little outrageous, or if you do things that are bold or controversial, the press is going to write about you.”
"The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people's fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole."
Let me say, I'm not interested in BuII and anyone who believes Trump only has half a brain but then you have so many people maybe this makes up for it
Many of us who voted for Trump did so for five reasons.
1. He was not named Hillary Clinton.
2. He was willing to address the terrible situation on our southern border.
3. He was willing to appoint people to the Supreme Court who actually believe in the Constitution.
4. He seemed to be concerned about the budget deficit.
5. He was going to revive the economy.
Results
1. Hooray!
2. Ongoing, but at least he is not just rehashing the failed policies of the past fifty years.
3. Doing well.
4. Lousy.
5. Fantastic so far.
His greatest asset is that he is not named Hillary Clinton. Have I already said that??
Yes you got a winner on that one, but there are a lot of people who fill that criteria but then they aren't full of bull are they
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