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Trump Being Presidential or Being Thuggish?

After changing his tune and admitting that he fired Comey because of the FBI investigation into the Russian connection, he performed true to form acting like the New York street thug he is and always has been.

Embarrassing the whole country (and much of the free world) he threatened ex-FBI Director Comey in a bizarre tweet that suggested Trump recorded conversations between himself and Comey, and then further threatened unstated dire consequences should Comey reveal what actually went on during their meeting.

Is this the President of the United States or The Godfather?

When will the Republican leadership finally act to remove this madman from office?

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Originally Posted by Athos

Trump Being Presidential or Being Thuggish?

Is this the President of the United States or The Godfather?

When will the Republican leadership finally act to remove this madman from office?

Is there a difference?

You are attributing too much to him. Think of him as the gardener who leaves the rake fork side up and then steps on it .

More like a bully, who steamrolled the repubs. Then he steamrolls the press and the judiciary. Now he is steam rolling the intelligence community, and the very institutions of the government. He's just getting started.

Bully? His executive orders have been overruled by the lower courts .

As for the press....well let's say up front that I'm not a fan of the term fake news '. That being said ....the press can't be more hopelessly wrong in it's reporting over the Comey firing .
The Compost reported that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had “threatened to resign after the narrative emerging from the White House on Tuesday evening cast him as a prime mover of the decision to fire Comey.” That was false . He denied the report .The Compost made no retraction or correction.
The Slimes reported that Comey asked the Justice Department’s Rosenstein for more funding and personnel for the Russia intelligence probe. That was confirmed false by FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.““We don’t typically request resources for an individual case.”
Instead he told Congress that nothing ;from resources to political pressure , was interfering in the Russia probe. The Slimes did not retract .
Jeffrey Toobin at CNN said the Comey firing was an abuse of power when a President was under investigation. But it has been repeatedly confirmed that Trump is not under investigation.Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley,said that “I heard nothing that contradicted the president’s statement." That was seconded by Sen. Dianne Feinstein who told Grassley “I very much appreciated what you’ve said .And it’s very accurate."
So who's being the bully ? Yes Trump was annoyed that he was rightly called out about conflicting narratives over why Comey was fired . That's just indicative of undisciplined messaging in the White House ,much like the stepping on the garden rake that I compared it to.
Trump needs to realize that all these distractions takes him further away from his agenda goals . His fault is being obsessed with this phony Russian connection that more and more sounds like the Dem's version of 'birther'. He should concentrate on getting his agenda enacted and stop worrying about the feces throwing monkeys .

Tom, why are you defending him? His behaviour is that of a bully, shout loudly, intimidate

Wonder why he is so obsessed with this phony Russia stuff when he has so many things he needs to do? Hmm, well lets find out! Forget Herr Donald anyway and look at Mitch and the boys a bit closer. That's were the REAL monkeys are throwing crap!

The Donald doesn't care if the lame stream media covers his fake news, he is an attention hog, insecure and needy. He's making money for his "family" while Mitch is cooking up a plan to take MO' Money out of our pockets, and into the REAL people who deserve it. The hard working 1% of job creators and policy makers.

Bet you will gladly take your HUSH money and let 'em do it! You did before when Bush did it! Nothing has changed with repubs since Bush. Same plan different man. How'd that work out for us before?

oh yeah clete ...he sure is intimidating ....geesh . He is close to completely losing control of his own administration .He's not bullying anyone .

Tom, of course he is, but he isn't succeeding, unless you are employed by him

The whole point is staying out of Trump's way to see what the mid terms look like.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-conte...29-668x501.jpg

Trump is more than a thug

He is stupid

DONALD Trump reportedly revealed highly classified information to Russian diplomats during his meeting with them at the White House last week.

The Washington Post reports that Mr Trump jeopardised a critical source of US intelligence on the Islamic State by disclosing information that hadn’t even been shared with America’s allies.

“The information the President relayed had been provided through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the US government,” the paper reports.
The source in question, which is reportedly one of America’s foreign allies, has access to the “inner workings” of ISIS and had provided intelligence on one of the group’s plots. Mr Trump’s decision to share that intel without the ally’s permission could stop it from co-operating in the future.

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DONALD Trump reportedly revealed highly classified information to Russian diplomats during his meeting with them at the White House last week.

Voice overheard in an Oval Office washroom stall, "Tee hee. I know stuff! Bad boy!"

ADDED: David Brooks has the same idea --

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/o...fied-data.html

They have been playing Trumps own words aimed at Hillary, all night. Now this Dufus has done what he claimed shouldn't be done, while everybody, even repubs are pulling their hair out over this latest fiasco!

Don't worry, by Friday it will be something new that this idiot has screwed up because orange man speak with forked tongue.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

orange man speak with forked tongue.

You would hope that is all it is but rangas have a way of proving stupid

He should use the Comey defense of Evita .' I did not 'intend' to reveal classified information.' I would also say that the Compost is owned by Amazon owner Jeff Bezos ,who has had a long running feud with herr Donald . Trump accused him of anti-trust violations and has threatened to use trust law to break up the Amazon monopoly.
I love the left's faux outrage. When the emperor revealed the name of the CIA station chief in Afghanistan all they did was a collective yawn.
Trump has not done his due diligence in sweeping the Obots out of the White House .Until he does ,there will be this steady drip ,drip ,drip of leaks from the Administration. It will be a daunting task . The emperor embedded hundreds of Obama-loyalists in key positions in the security apparatus of the country ;as well as other key executive dept desks .

Tell me Tom, how do you think Dump could clean the swamp when he is living in it and surrounded by Alligators? He can't do due diligence when his advisors are the very people he is hunting. What big teeth you have grandma? He needs to get at least one on side so they can tip him off to the others. He made the mistake of starting on the outskirts with the DAs instead of just kicking out everyone who had been appointed in the past eight years. And it is useless relying on his left leaning son-in-law

The ranga will become more unstable as he realises where he is, already some pictures show he has aged

LOL Tom. You blame Obama loyalists to the Dufus doing a half a$$ed job?

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yes I do blame Obots . Swamp creatures and retired swamp creatures demand anonymity from the Amazon Compost in order to discuss a meeting they did not attend. The readers are asked to take the leaked information as biblical truth without knowing the name of the official ,or even if that person holds/held any position of prominence . However you can evaluate the words and veracity of National Security Adviser, Gen. H.R. McMaster. He has spent a career defending the United States ; he was at the meeting,and he’s on the record,

... but he ain't God... Trump is! Even McMaster can be fired by the Orange One.

I'm sure he would depart with dignity and not disclose to anonymous worms that he kept secret notes of conversations with herr Donald.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

kept secret notes of conversations with herr Donald.

Hello tom:

In my puny little life, I document stuff.. It's served me well.. When I've had a conversation of some import, I'll write a letter to the person outlining the discussion.. Sometimes people just don't remember the deal they made. My letters serve to remind them..

So, the fact that people much more important than me do the same thing, is reassuring..

If it comes down to Trumps tapes, or Comey's memorandum, Comey WINS.. Cause Trump will NEVER release the tapes.. The tapes, after all, are what brought Nixon down..

excon

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he kept secret notes of conversations with herr Donald.

This is what professionals do -- doctors, nurses, other medical workers, lawyers, psychotherapists, businesspeople, insurance adjusters, teachers, librarians, and more.

then why was his recall so bad in testimony about Huma Abiden's emails on Weiner's server . He wasn't even close to accurate . Why did he not take notes of Evita's interview with the FBI ?

When herr Donald share intelligence with the Russians it is terrible . When the emperor did ..... all cool .
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.6ddefb8eb8d8

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Originally Posted by tomder55

When herr Donald share intelligence with the Russians it is terrible . When the emperor did ..... all cool .
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.6ddefb8eb8d8

"Moooooommmmm, sure, I took a cookie out of the cookie jar, but Jimmy took THREE!!!!"

Ex and Tal .I'll take the word of McMaster ;who wrote the definitive book about the need for military leaders to stand up to civilian leadership ,over the word of an FBI boss who's motives have been questioned by both parties and who's memory in testimony under oath is questionable and suspect .

Cooking Up a Quagmire

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"Moooooommmmm, sure, I took a cookie out of the cookie jar, but Jimmy took THREE!!!!"

Jimmy took 3 and there was a collective yawn . No one talked of punishment for him.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Jimmy took 3 and there was a collective yawn . No one talked of punishment for him.

You must not have kids. Jimmy is innocent. The cookie thief is lying and trying to divert his mother.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

When herr Donald share intelligence with the Russians it is terrible . When the emperor did ..... all cool .
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.6ddefb8eb8d8

By your own article Tom, there were conditions to be met for sharing of information, so what we have is a proposal or negotiation. With Herr Donald that's not what was offered, and McMasters has not elaborated on that, just defended his boss. Now we have Putin offering his transcripts which we wouldn't have to depend on if our own news agencies had been part of the process, like the Russians were.

Surely you can see that something's wrong with a foreign news organization being in OUR HOUSE when the US news organizations are NOT?

Our press is not faithfully objective . As I mentioned earlier . The Compost is owned by Jeff Bezos ,a sworn enemy of Trump.

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"In the context of that discussion, what the president discussed with the foreign minister was wholly appropriate to that conversation and is consistent with the routine sharing of information between the president and any leaders with whom he’s engaged"

(McMaster)

That's all cool, but do you mind if I see the replay for myself?

"Trust but verify"/KING Ronald Reagan

We're to believe that Comey was so concerned about obstruction of justice that he waited to be fired to leak notes with his suspicions. BTW ,it is a crime itself to not report an obstruction of justice. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361).Comey could face criminal charges and lose his license to practice law. So if we are to believe that herr Donald attempted and obstruction of justice then Comey's smoking gun is pointed right between Comey's eyes.
Let's go with the Comey defense ..... no intent to obstruct justice by either Trump or Comey . James .......where are those 100,000 Huma emails again ?

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By your own article Tom, there were conditions to be met for sharing of information, so what we have is a proposal or negotiation

Actually no .We told the Russians and Assad where to presumably hit ISIS .But you know and I know that they rarely target ISIS . Instead Assad has systematically targeted civilian populations in rebel control .Yesterday the State Department released previously classified intelligence assessments regarding the actions of the Syrian regime. It is shocking .

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Since 2012, the regime has routinely conducted airstrikes and artillery strikes in dense urban centers, including with barrel bombs, improvised unguided bombs, which are sometimes described as air-dropped IEDs. The Assad regime systemically targeted eastern Aleppo’s hospitals in multiple strikes, killing patients and medical professionals. (Coughs.) Excuse me.
In addition to airstrikes, the regime continues to systematically abduct and torture civilian detainees, often beating, electrocuting, and raping these victims. A former regime photo-documentarian working under the name Caesar has shared more than 10,000 photos of Assad’s victims with the international community. According to numerous NGOs, the regime has abducted and detained between 65,000 and 117,000 people between 2011 and 2015.
Moreover, the regime has also authorized the extrajudicial killings of thousands of detainees using mass hangings at the Saydnaya military prison. Saydnaya is a 45-minute drive outside of Damascus and is one of Syria’s largest and most secure prison complexes. Saydnaya is but one of many detention facilities where prisoners are being held and abused. Others include the Mezzeh airport detention facility and Military Security Branches 215, 227, 235, 248, and 291, which are all located throughout Syria.
The regime holds as many as 70 prisoners in Saydnaya in cells that have a five-person capacity. And according to multiple sources, the regime is responsible for killing as many as 50 detainees per day at Saydnaya. Credible sources have believed that many of the bodies have been disposed in mass graves. We now believe that the Syrian regime has installed a crematorium in the Saydnaya prison complex which could dispose of detainees’ remains with little evidence.

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2017/05/270865.htm
“These atrocities have been carried out seemingly with the unconditional support from Russia and Iran,”;said Stuart Jones, Acting Assistant Secretary for Near Eastern Affairs.

The emperor said that his decision to not intervene in Syria was his proudest moment .

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Obama understands that the decision he made to step back from air strikes, and to allow the violation of a red line he himself had drawn to go unpunished, will be interrogated mercilessly by historians. But today that decision is a source of deep satisfaction for him.
“I’m very proud of this moment,” he told me. “The overwhelming weight of conventional wisdom and the machinery of our national-security apparatus had gone fairly far. The perception was that my credibility was at stake, that America’s credibility was at stake. And so for me to press the pause button at that moment, I knew, would cost me politically. And the fact that I was able to pull back from the immediate pressures and think through in my own mind what was in America’s interest, not only with respect to Syria but also with respect to our democracy, was as tough a decision as I’ve made—and I believe ultimately it was the right decision to make.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...rine/471525/#1

Comparisons to Bubba failing to prevent the Rwanda genocide are appropriate here . But Bubba to his credit regrets his decision to not intervene . Then emperor is proud of his voting present .

Breaking News

Former FBI Director Robert Mueller appointed special counsel in Russia election probe.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/u...tion.html?_r=0

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I'll take the word of McMaster ;who wrote the definitive book about the need for military leaders to stand up to civilian leadership

Hello tom:

He did write that book.. Was he IN power at the time?? Power is pretty heady stuff.. It's easy to say you'd throw it all away by standing up to the orangeman.. Let's see if he does. He can start anytime. We're waiting..

excon

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Former FBI Director Robert Mueller appointed special counsel in Russia election probe.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/u...tion.html?_r=0

This should be a counter-intelligence investigation . But whatever . Maybe now we'll find out who criminally unmasked Flynn .Now maybe we'll find out who the leakers are in the White House . Now maybe the whole Comey note will be revealed and not only the part the Slimes thought was relevant .Maybe we will get to see Comey's notes about the Fast and Furious investigation .Maybe we will get to see Comey's notes about the IRS being used as a political tool of the emperor . Maybe we'll see Comey's notes about the Benghazi probe. Maybe we'll get to see Comey's notes on Evita's server .

The Dems don't know it yet ,but if Mueller is an honest broker (and I believe he is) then there are Obots who are vulnerable .ie John Podesta ,Susan Rice,Evita ,the emperor .

All is revealed now Tom it is a Russian plot, Wall Street has dived, so the lustre has gone off Trump, meanwhile while he has to fight off the alligators he cannot be effective in foreign policy

That is true .His agenda is in trouble ,and that is all the Dems and establishment Repubics wanted . Yesterday was historic . The 1st time a special prosecutor was appointed before a crime was identified .

A crime was committed by Flynn. He took money from a foreign government and that's against the rules and he knew it was. The Orange Dufus should have known it too, (And probably did!) but what does he do? Blame everybody else because he didn't do his homework!

all I have to say about that is 'the Podesta brothers ' . Bring it on .The way I see it ,the worse (and best )outcome from this will be a Pence presidency.

That's the spirit Tom, get your popcorn and enjoy the show. Hope they get that Sessions character caught up in this too!