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  • Jan 15, 2014, 02:58 PM
    tomder55
    Gov Christe's Fort Lee NJ traffic jam
    Bruce Springsteen & Jimmy Fallon: "Gov. Christie Traffic Jam" ("Born To Run" Parody) - YouTube

    hope this isn't too short
  • Jan 15, 2014, 03:19 PM
    speechlesstx
    Fallon does a good Springsteen. You know that has to kill Christie, his hero and new BFF goofing on him like that.

    Btw, the latest poll shows fewer NJ voters think he's a bully now. You'd think with all the breathless coverage he might have taken a bigger hit. Shame they couldn't find near as much time to discuss something like Benghazi, and how a bipartisan report points blame at the administration.

    Quote:

    A long-delayed Senate Intelligence Committee report released Wednesday faulted both the State Department and the intelligence community for not preventing attacks on two outposts in Benghazi, Libya, that killed four Americans, including a U.S. ambassador, about 16 months ago.

    The bipartisan report laid out more than a dozen findings regarding the assaults on a diplomatic compound and a CIA annex in the city. It said the State Department failed to increase security at its mission despite warnings, and blamed intelligence agencies for not sharing information about the existence of the CIA outpost with the U.S. military.

  • Jan 15, 2014, 03:36 PM
    smoothy
    Where is the lefts enthusiasm to investigate and prosecute IRSgate or Bennghazigate? THis is a political witch hunt. Obamas done worse things this week than cause a little traffic jam. You'd think traffic backups were something new for that area from listening to them whining.
  • Jan 15, 2014, 04:07 PM
    tomder55
    I never get used to them . Then you get to pay $11 every time you cross the bridge . Six axles pay $84 in peak hours,for the privilege of sitting in a traffic jam 4 or 5 hrs because of the lane closure nonsense.
    That being said ,I kinda believe him when he denies any previous approval for the stunt . Christie is a hard ball pol ,and if he wanted to do payback there are much more effective ways than screwing the commuters .
  • Jan 15, 2014, 04:09 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Where is the lefts enthusiasm to investigate and prosecute IRSgate or Bennghazigate?
    or the NSA .....consider this ........ Nixon was impeached for bugging 2 offices.
  • Jan 15, 2014, 04:14 PM
    paraclete
    some people would believe anything smoothy, we have all seen the instance of the political staffer who just tried to do something nice for the boss, as if the boss had no idea what was going on. A man who cannot control his staff has shown bad judgement in selecting them and poor judgement in allowing them latitude is no fit candidate to run a city let alone a country. plausable deniability doesn't cut it for me
  • Jan 15, 2014, 04:27 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    The document contains only one mention of former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is named by the panel's Republicans as the official who should ultimately be held responsible for the failures at Benghazi. But the broader report also finds no evidence of the kind of political coverup that Republicans have long alleged — providing fodder for both sides as Clinton ponders a possible presidential run in 2016.
    More Benghazi to cover up Bridgegate?
  • Jan 15, 2014, 05:04 PM
    paraclete
    Is Hillary now responsible for traffic jams too? That was the problem wasn't it; there was a gate on the bridge? I'm sure Christie would like Clinton out of the way and via versa. Personally I think they should find another candidate now, I expect Kerry to try again, he has done a passable job as VEPE
  • Jan 15, 2014, 05:34 PM
    smoothy
    THere is the Fast and furious stonewalling, the Benghazi stomewalling, the IRS harassment stonewalling... the NSA spying stonewalling... Obama is responsible for more stone walling than the Chinese who built the great wall have.
  • Jan 15, 2014, 05:34 PM
    talaniman
    We had "I am not a crook", "I am not a witch", now we have "I am not a bully.".
  • Jan 15, 2014, 05:37 PM
    tomder55
    You can deny it all you want to ,but the facts have come out . The emperor KNEW it was a terrorist attack in less than a half hour after the attack began .
    Evita lied under oath to the Senate Foreign Relations committee.


    My only question is what does the emperor have on speaker Bonehead that he continues to refuse to appoint select committees with subpoena power to investigate all these scandals from the WH
  • Jan 15, 2014, 05:48 PM
    talaniman
    Bad enough bonehead gets embarrassed by his own, be really bad when the opposition embarrasses him too. Bridgegate is just getting started. His whole office was chuckling about it for months, and the bully knew nothing?? And still doesn't??

    He could have asked what's so funny guy's?
  • Jan 15, 2014, 06:09 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Bridgegate is just getting started.
    Maybe but there are much more effective means to get even with a political foe(withholding funding ,permits etc.);and I'm sure Christe plays harball with the best of them. There is no political advantage for tying up traffic for hours at a time . It only pisses off the people.

    Like speech said .The people of NJ appear to believe him.
  • Jan 15, 2014, 06:12 PM
    tomder55
    or if your the emperor you can unleash the IRS on political opponents . Or if your Evita ,you just hide their files in your office in the WH .
    Speaking of Evita .....she has an enemies list lol ..... I'm gonna start calling her Evita Milhouse .
  • Jan 15, 2014, 07:35 PM
    paraclete
    yes I hear Kerry is on Evita's hit list, perhaps he can swift boat this one
  • Jan 20, 2014, 10:17 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    consider this ........ Nixon was impeached for bugging 2 offices.

    Gotta set history right here:

    1. Nixon was not impeached - he quit before the impeachment vote could occur. Only two presidents have ever been impeached: Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton - both were acquitted.

    2. Watergate was not over bugging offices - it was over attempts to cover up a break in at the Democratic HQ offices by operatives who were paid from funds of the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP for short).

    The lesson from Watergate is that politicians typically get in trouble not for committing criminal offenses themselves but rather for trying to cover up criminal offenses done by others. If it turns out that the activities of Christie's underlings were indeed illegal (which seems highly likely) and if it turns out that Christie knew of those illegal activities prior to the emails coming out last week then he's likely in irreversible trouble, even if he didn't order the actiivties himself or know about them ahead of time.
  • Jan 20, 2014, 11:18 AM
    tomder55
    yeah I actually knew that he quit before the impeachment vote. The CREEP ops went there to place bugs in the DNC HQ. They also bugged Daniel Ellsbergs doctor . There would've been no bugging of the DNC if Nixon didn't want to know what they had on him regarding Howard Hughes bribes to Nixon .
  • Feb 7, 2014, 08:55 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    The question now, is NOT whether Christie will be the GOP nominee. It's whether he can remain governor.

    Does anybody believe he'll survive? Does anybody think he DIDN'T do what he's being accused of doing??

    excon
  • Feb 7, 2014, 09:32 AM
    speechlesstx
    So far all we have is a bunch of liars making accusations that not even NJ Democrats believe so he'll be fine as Gov. But that won't stop the entire national Democratic machine from going all out to destroy him.
  • Feb 7, 2014, 10:11 AM
    tomder55
    What the Dems are doing is trying to duplicate the hit job they did on Palin. The goal here is to have him defending himself into the campaign season ;and hoping he uses valuable resources doing it .
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/06/us...lems.html?_r=0

    I don't want him to be the nominee. But I'm more likely to defend him when I see this bs pile-on. It sure helps the Dem cause that they have the AG of US ready to take a shot .
  • Feb 7, 2014, 11:12 AM
    talaniman
    The goal is to find out everything about him, it's called vetting. Similar to what repubs did when they met on the inauguration of Obama and made their goal to make him a one term president. McCain/Palin failed because you guys couldn't get your people to the polls.

    Christie has more than a traffic jam to explain. Where did all that Sandy money go for one. The list grows daily. He's in Texas and Abbot is avoiding him like the plague, just like Scott in Florida did.
  • Feb 7, 2014, 11:29 AM
    speechlesstx
    There is no Sandy money scandal just like there was no vetting of Obama.
  • Feb 7, 2014, 11:38 AM
    tomder55
    Where did the Katrina money go ? Where did the Haiti money go ? I have followed the Sandy thing closely because Christie pissed me off with his butt kissing of the emperor . But I have seen no evidence of mismanagement of the funds .
  • Feb 11, 2014, 12:00 PM
    speechlesstx
    FYI...

    Despite tough month, Chris Christie breaks fundraising records for GOP | The Daily Caller
  • Feb 11, 2014, 12:28 PM
    tomder55
    there was a huge protest rally today against Christie .

    Quote:

    About a dozen people took part in a noontime protest Tuesday near the base of the George Washington Bridge where unannounced lane closures last September snarled traffic and made Fort Lee residents miserable for four days.
    'Victims' Of Fort Lee Lane Closures To Protest At George Washington Bridge « CBS New York
  • Feb 11, 2014, 12:42 PM
    talaniman
    LOL, he better money up while he can. It's not like he is raising all the money on his own star power in the first place.
  • Feb 11, 2014, 02:08 PM
    excon
    Hello again,

    The question isn't whether he'll be the GOP nominee in '16. He won't.. The question is, can he remain governor.

    I sounds like I said that before...

    excon
  • Feb 11, 2014, 02:55 PM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon
    Does anybody believe he'll survive?

    Yes, absoluteley he'll remain as governor and complete his term, unless he resigns to run fror pres (highly doubtful) or actually wins the presidency in 2016 - and that ain't gonna happen.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon
    Does anybody think he DIDN'T do what he's being accused of doing??

    What is he accused of? Orchestrating the closing? No, he didn't do that. Having knowledge of the plot ahead of time? Nope. Having knowledge of the closing during the few days it was happening? Yes, probably. After all nearly 10 million people were aware of it once it hit the papers, so if he didn't know about it I would be surprised. The fact that he said he didn't know about it "until it was over" is the only gotcha here, and it's immaterial.
  • Feb 11, 2014, 03:05 PM
    tomder55
    He will be the nominee of the Repubic establishment wants him to be the nominee. This has been ongoing for a month and they haven't put a glove on him. Not sure what the Repubic Rovians want however . There is talk of dusting the moss off of Jeb Bush (ugh).
    My early favorite .... Scott Walker .
  • Feb 11, 2014, 03:34 PM
    paraclete
    so you're saying the 'publicans are going to nominate another loser, now there is news. It just proves that politics is removed from reality
  • Feb 11, 2014, 03:53 PM
    tomder55
    probably ... they have fallen in love with the idea of the competent neo-statist manager .
  • Feb 11, 2014, 04:56 PM
    Athos
    Christie is speeding down the road to footnoteville.
  • Feb 11, 2014, 05:25 PM
    paraclete
    A man who can't manage his staff doesn't belong in the White House or any position of power
  • Feb 11, 2014, 06:18 PM
    tomder55
    nonsense .. they did something without his authority and he held them accountable by firing them.
  • Feb 11, 2014, 06:24 PM
    talaniman
    The whole staff was rogue? How did that happen?
  • Feb 11, 2014, 06:29 PM
    paraclete
    Who selected these drongos, you think that someone just goes rogue overnight? no he has to accept the responsibility and the impact on his career. could you imagine a White House run this way? oh wait you already have this experience so you just want more of the same
  • Feb 12, 2014, 07:49 AM
    tomder55
    no it wasn't the whole staff . He fired a Deputy Chief of Staff and his campaign manager . Unless something else emerges ,then it is clear that these 2 concocted and led this lane closure plan without informing him of the plan..... and then lied to him when he confronted his staff over the incident .
  • Feb 12, 2014, 07:52 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    The whole staff was rogue? How did that happen?
    I love how you never exaggerate.
  • Feb 12, 2014, 07:59 AM
    talaniman
    He never asked them what their motives were when he fired them. He didn't want to be accused of "witness tampering". Yeah, right!! And what was that traffic study about with Buono? How about the loot to a nursing home from the Sandy fund?

    Come on Tom, you are across the river from this dude and have heard the reporting more than I have. There investigating more than Bridgegate.
  • Feb 12, 2014, 08:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Once again you guys are focusing on a non-scandal while ignoring the real ones, like this.

    Cover Oregon Scandal Deepens | Washington Free Beacon

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