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Cry Havoc and let loose the Dogs of war!

Western prepares to punish reported Syrian chemical weapons attacks - CNN.com

We just can't help ourselves, with no more evidence than we had when we started and much handwringing and chest beating we have decided, we cannot, after two years, stand idly by and do nothing. The real question is, of course, what to do that will not tip the scales either way. Ah, the horns of a dilemma. Strike too hard and you give the rebels victory, strike the wrong place and you give Assard victory, kill Assard and you create a vacuum quickly filled by Al Qaeda or worse Hezbollah. With nothing to loose Assard might unleash those WMD

I think its really a distraction from the Benghazi investigation the Obama administration would do ANYTHING to keep from happening.

I think this is wag the dog. Note no one is talking about all the emperor's scandals and other failings. Given the template that the Clintonista's established ,there will be a salvo or 2 of tomahawks and then we'll call it a day. There will be some however who still feel guilty about not doing anything about the Rhwanda massacres and will feed us their "responsibility to protect " doctrine.
Not to worry ,our goal is not regime change (as we said to the Russians when they approved a no-fly zone in Libya).

Our regime is saying strikes could come Thursday and we don't need no UN approval, while UN inspectors are asking for more time. Ironic isn't it?

When Bush was in office Obama and the lefties didn't think he could take long enough to satisfy them. Now to the same group... too soon has no meaning at all.

Testosterone is the root of all evil.
Less men in the world, please.

Its another Obama tantrum because Vladmir had the nerve to stand up to the Messiah... after all who has any business disagreeing or saying anything but what the Messiah wants to do and hear.

Barrak doesn't have much testosterone in his system. This is more like a child throwing a tantrum... only he has his hands on something more dangerous that a J I Joe doll. (or if you preffer ACTION figure)

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Originally Posted by joypulv

Testosterone is the root of all evil.
Less men in the world, please.

You too must have noticed which gender is running amok in the streets, shouting and brandishing weapons.

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Originally Posted by joypulv

Testosterone is the root of all evil.
Less men in the world, please.

Well that's rather rude and sexist.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Well that's rather rude and sexist.

I think she means we don't see in news clips the women and children running wild and screaming. They are the ones, though, ending up without sons and husbands and fathers.

I was sexist.
As for rude, heck, men complain about women all the time too. For thousands of years boy babies have been the prize, the goal, to continue the hunt, the farm, the battle, all the testy stuff. As far as I can tell, men still have just as much testosterone as their ancestors had. It has nowhere to go but rape, plunder, and pillage. Sports and rock music and mountain climbing and building tall structures would be nice but that isn't enough. Power, politics, itching to make WAR.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I think she means we don't see in news clips the women and children running wild and screaming. They are the ones, though, ending up without sons and husbands and fathers.

You both didn't see or remember the Videos from the Middle East on 9/11 then... women and children share in the violence and bombings over there in the buttcrack of the world. Its not men exclusively.

THe image of a nearly toothless Palestinian Cow celibrating is burned into my memory

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Originally Posted by smoothy

You both didn't see or remember the Videos from the Middle East on 9/11 then....women adn children share in the violence and bombings over there in the armpit of the world. Its not men exclusively.

Yes, I remember them. But it's primarily men and boys pumping their fists and shouting. The women are mainly off to the side covering their faces and weeping.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Yes, I remember them. But it's primarily men and boys pumping their fists and shouting. The women are mainly off to the side covering their faces and weeping.

You watched different videos than I saw on the news then... because I saw joyous celibrations... not weaping, and it was even more the women and kids doing it than the men. The weaping only happened when payback time came.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I think she means we don't see in news clips the women and children running wild and screaming. They are the ones, though, ending up without sons and husbands and fathers.

No, it was clearly rude and sexist.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

No, it was clearly rude and sexist.

Thank goodness men never are.

Yes, I'm blaming all this on men. Rude and sexist is called for.

I wouldn't go that far... Women aren't all that meak and subservient to mens demands even in the middle east...

Not even Afghanistan.(yes I understand the Afghan Family dynamic better than most people do)

Women play a big part in what happens in that part of the world.

Women play a big part?? Oh please. Maybe a rare one singled out just for the news.

Listen to all the words of war from paraclete: " ..the horns of a dilemma. strike too hard and you give the rebels victory, strike the wrong place and you give Assard victory, kill Assard and you create a vacuum quickly filled by Al Qaeda or worse Hezbollah. with nothing to loose Assard might unleash those WMD."

Is that how women think? Nope

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Originally Posted by joypulv

I was sexist.
As for rude, heck, men complain about women all the time too. For thousands of years boy babies have been the prize, the goal, to continue the hunt, the farm, the battle, all the testy stuff. As far as I can tell, men still have just as much testosterone as their ancestors had. It has nowhere to go but rape, plunder, and pillage. Sports and rock music and mountain climbing and building tall structures would be nice but that isn't enough. Power, politics, itching to make WAR.

I have never raped, plundered or pillaged anyone or anything. Neither have my friends.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Thank goodness men never are.

Sure they are, one of the filthy b@stards just resigned, finally, as mayor of San Diego.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I have never raped, plundered or pillaged anyone or anything. Neither have my friends.

Naw, you just defend the unborn, no matter what a woman thinks, and no matter if its yours or not.

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Originally Posted by joypulv

Women play a big part??? Oh please. Maybe a rare one singled out just for the news.

Listen to all the words of war from paraclete: " ..the horns of a dilemma. strike too hard and you give the rebels victory, strike the wrong place and you give Assard victory, kill Assard and you create a vacuum quickly filled by Al Qaeda or worse Hezbollah. with nothing to loose Assard might unleash those WMD."

Is that how women think? Nope

I'm assuming you think Middle eastern women are quiet slaves to their men-folk?

You couldn't be more wrong... that is an incorrect and dangerous misconception to make.

Don't confuse public with private behavior. They are VERY different from each other in that part of the world...

I know a few Afhgan families... and a couple Iranian ones... some for 20 years and well enough to know almost every transgression that's happened in them.

The women run those houses... not the men. They were immigrants... they weren't born and raised here. But their kids were.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

I wouldn't go that far....Women aren't all that meak and subservient to mens demands even in the middle east...

Not even Afghanistan.(yes I understand the Afghan Family dynamic better than most people do)

Women play a big part in what happens in that part of the world.

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier.

Rudyard Kipling

Women have to carry on, bring up the next generation, after men destroy as much as they can.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Naw, you just defend the unborn, no matter what a woman thinks, and no matter if its yours or not.

Someone has to.

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Someone has to.

Why? Because women are too stupid to do it themselves?

Because murdering children is not a legitimate choice in a civilized country ?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

because murdering children is not a legitimate choice in a civilized country ?

Instead, wait until they have enlisted in the military and then send them to war.

We can argue abortion somewhere else, can we?

I made my rude sexist remark about MEN because I don't know what to do about any of these damn wars.
Meanwhile the ships are offshore and the newscasters are saying things like 'point of no return.'

So. US is going, France is going and UK along with Canada. Lets pray something can be done to stop this insanity.

The world is going to end up with yet another secular dictator disposed only to be replaced with an Islamic terrorist dictator

Use to be great when colonial powers hand picked who they wanted in charge when they "left". The problem with dictators is they stay too long, and pa power to their sons. Or another relative.

Colonial powers - or the US. We pushed out colonial powers! We used the CIA to get rid of leaders just to protect United Fruit. What has changed? The cloak, the businesses, the natural resources.

This is still a great power game... from the Telegraph;Prince Bandar, head of Saudi intelligence, has made Russia an offer to fix gas prices if it agreed to drop its support for Syria.

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“Let us examine how to put together a unified Russian-Saudi strategy on the subject of oil. The aim is to agree on the price of oil and production quantities that keep the price stable in global oil markets,” he said at the four-hour meeting with Mr Putin. They met at Mr Putin's dacha outside Moscow three weeks ago.

“We understand Russia's great interest in the oil and gas in the Mediterranean from Israel to Cyprus. And we understand the importance of the Russian gas pipeline to Europe. We are not interested in competing with that. We can cooperate in this area,” he said, purporting to speak with the full backing of the US.

The talks appear to offer an alliance between the OPEC cartel and Russia, which together produce over 40m barrels a day of oil, 45pc of global output. Such a move would alter the strategic landscape.

The details of the talks were first leaked to the Russian press. A more detailed version has since appeared in the Lebanese newspaper As-Safir, which has Hezbollah links and is hostile to the Saudis.

As-Safir said Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia's naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia's Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord. “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” he allegedly said.

Saudis offer Russia secret oil deal if it drops Syria - Telegraph

Can we get the libs to dust off those "No blood for oil " protest posters so they can picket the White House ? Nahh ,this is their emperor .

It's always about the oil. If only there were a way to wean off the dependence on it. But big biz and their politicians will not allow it so that's just the way it has to be.

Here are some ideas for protest signs...

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/3...antiwar_ap.jpg
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

It's always about the oil. If only there were a way to wean off the dependance on it. But big biz and their politicians will not allow it so that's just the way it has to be.

I say drill baby drill ! Frack baby frack !

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I say drill baby drill ! frack baby frack !

And yo' mama says clean up your own mess.

This from Reuters

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President Bashar al-Assad's forces appear to have evacuated most personnel from army and security command headquarters in central Damascus in preparation for a Western military strike, residents and opposition sources said on Wednesday

Syria evacuates most army buildings in Damascus: residents | Reuters
So if we want to hit command and control then we will have to target hospitals ,milk factories ,and aspirin factories. That's where the cowards normally go when they want human shields.