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  • Jun 13, 2012, 11:57 AM
    NeedKarma
    The GOP's Top Priority
    It is obvious this is their sole concern.

  • Jun 13, 2012, 12:24 PM
    smoothy
    Its Obvious the DNC's sole priority is to finish bankrupting the country... Obama already has a done a bang-up job wrecking it so far...
  • Jun 13, 2012, 12:53 PM
    speechlesstx
    And your point is what?
  • Jun 13, 2012, 01:26 PM
    NeedKarma
    I'll go with the top comment on YouTube:

    "Your top political agenda over the next two years should be to serve the American people, and to show some respect for a President who has put up with your obstructionist viewpoint for way too long."

    The fact that some people see no fault with the stated top priority make them part of the problem, not part of the solution.
  • Jun 13, 2012, 02:54 PM
    speechlesstx
    Dude, nothing's going to get better as long as this amateur is in office, that's why the top priority is making him a one term president. We can't afford a second term.
  • Jun 13, 2012, 03:14 PM
    NeedKarma
    So your thinking is that the Republicans will right the ship? You had 8 years of that and it only got worse... much worse.
    Why can't the parties do what they are supposed to and serve the american people that elected them?
  • Jun 13, 2012, 03:43 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So your thinking is that the Republicans will right the ship? You had 8 years of that and it only got worse...much worse.
    Why can't the parties do what they are supposed to and serve the American people that elected them?

    It was WAY better under Bush than its EVER been Under Obama... and nothing has improved, nothing... unless you are a Government leech... err "worker" that doesn't create a dime of wealth... only suck the actual productive 53% of the public that pay federal taxes dry.
  • Jun 13, 2012, 03:48 PM
    NeedKarma
    The video was uploaded in Dec. 2010. So the GOP decided then that this was their top priority. Not jobs, not the economy, not the shrinking middle class, or education, or infrastructure, but political ideology.
  • Jun 13, 2012, 04:29 PM
    smoothy
    You mean like the DNC has done for years? If its been fine for the Obama administration and his supporters... then they have nothing to complain about..

    Obamas entire agenda the last 3 years and 6 months has been blaming it all on Bush... he has nothing else... nothing at all.
  • Jun 13, 2012, 04:40 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I'll go with the top comment on YouTube:

    "Your top political agenda over the next two years should be to serve the American people, and to show some respect for a President who has put up with your obstructionist viewpoint for way too long."

    The fact that some people see no fault with the stated top priority make them part of the problem, not part of the solution.

    Lol ,the only purpose of a political party is to gain power ;to win elections and to get their agenda enacted .What McConnell said is one of the most self evident duh comments I can imagine. It also happens to be the correct position to take given how ruinious the Obama Presidency has been .
  • Jun 13, 2012, 05:33 PM
    NeedKarma
    Wow you guys are screwed if that's how you accept your politics. I guess you deserve what you get.
  • Jun 13, 2012, 07:12 PM
    tomder55
    And you political parties don't exist to win elections ? Give me a break !
  • Jun 13, 2012, 08:25 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    and you political parties don't exist to win elections ? Give me a break !

    Of course but there is a bigger picture, are you telling me the GOP has a true social agenda other than treading down the democrats?
  • Jun 14, 2012, 02:18 AM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    a Government leech....err "worker" that doesn't create a dime of wealth...only suck the actual productive 53% of the public that pay federal taxes dry.

    Hi Smoothy

    Are we also talking about the managerial class as a whole. The bankers, technocrats (management and administration) consultants? You know the same types that are found overly represented in both government and private industries.


    Tut
  • Jun 14, 2012, 02:24 AM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    lol ,the only purpose of a political party is to gain power ;to win elections and to get their agenda enacted .What McConnell said is one of the most self evident duh comments I can imagine. It also happens to be the correct position to take given how ruinious the Obama Presidency has been .



    Exactly. This is what non-representation is all about. When you get elected the bottom line is that you have to pay the pipers. Applies to both sides of politics. Time for a wake-up call or are we content to play the bitter courtiers?

    Tut
  • Jun 14, 2012, 03:26 AM
    paraclete
    Yes non representative politics for the mindless majority
  • Jun 14, 2012, 04:51 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TUT317 View Post
    Hi Smoothy

    Are we also talking about the managerial class as a whole. The bankers, technocrats (management and administration) consultants? You know the same types that are found overly represented in both government and private industries.


    Tut

    Big difference between a private sector worker (where if you continue to lose money you go out of business) vs. a government drone (where if you lose money... they give you a bigger budget next year, it is only tax dollars after all, not like its real money or anything).

    Even if they do similar types of work.

    I differentiate them from the peons that have essentially no skillset (or value) outside of the one little task they perform.

    Not saying there aren't clueless managers... there are.. I've actually worked for a couple over the years... but if the peons knew half of what they think they know about everything... why don't they start their own business? (yes a few actually do)
  • Jun 14, 2012, 05:31 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    and you political parties don't exist to win elections ? Give me a break !

    Hello tom:

    There should be SOME governing in between elections, no?? I guess not.

    Would it piss you off if/when the Democrats BLOCK everything President Romney tries to do? Have you considered that possibility? You know, what's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander.

    excon
  • Jun 14, 2012, 05:46 AM
    TUT317
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post

    Even if they do simular types of work.

    I differentiate them from the peons that have essentially no skillset (or value) outside of the one little task they perform.


    I see.So, even though they do similar jobs the private sector manager has a better overall understanding of the relationship between what he/she knows and what the company should do. In other words, the private sector manager can see the bigger picture. Whereas, the public sector manager only knows what they know in their area of expertize.

    When it comes to managers in the private sector they have an expertize in most areas. Even though their background might be engineering they understand the legal side of operations. When it comes to finance their expertize in accounting would also come to the fore.

    Would it not be the case that the modern large corporations require people who have expertize in specialized knowledge? Would it also not be the case that in order to benefit the company their job would be to exercise this expertize in that narrow area to gain a maximum result?

    Modern organization are highly complex and involved. Gone are the days when 'the manager' goes around to each section and gives them the wisdom of their experience based on the fact that built the company from the ground up.

    Tut
  • Jun 14, 2012, 06:19 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello tom:

    There should be SOME governing in between elections, no??? I guess not.

    Would it piss you off if/when the Democrats BLOCK everything President Romney tries to do? Have you considered that possibility? You know, what's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander.

    excon

    Dude, Obama is our very own Baghdad Bob...
  • Jun 14, 2012, 06:22 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Dude, Obama is our very own Baghdad Bob...

    C'mon, grow up!
  • Jun 14, 2012, 06:35 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    C'mon, grow up!

    What, you don't think Obama is just like Baghdad Bob? How's this, better?
  • Jun 14, 2012, 06:37 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Dude, Obama is our very own Baghdad Bob...

    Hello Steve:

    I don't think my post was about that stuff... But, I understand your need to post tripe, so you picked my question to do it. That ain't cool.

    excon
  • Jun 14, 2012, 06:49 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    yes non representative politics for the mindless majority

    We will naturally include the Aussie parties in this mix
  • Jun 14, 2012, 06:51 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Steve:

    I don't think my post was about that stuff... But, I understand your need to post tripe, so you picked my question to do it. That ain't cool.

    excon

    Tripe? Come on, those were funny - and spot on. Or do you think the private sector is doing just fine?

    Ok, so to answer your question I'd just as soon Congress and the White House both take a few years off. But don't think we've forgotten that a few years back the congressional Democrats "top priority" was obstruction. In fact on nearly every GOP initiative since 2010 the Democrats have declared them DOA. Oh, and the Senate still has not produced a budget for 1142 days. So if you want to discuss obstruction I'm up for it.
  • Jun 14, 2012, 06:56 AM
    tomder55
    Ex it's not that the Republicans won't work with Obama. They have passed budgets ;the Dems have not even bothered seriously trying to pass the President's budget. So if there is a noncooperative group in the government ;it's the President's own party. You really want to talk about governing ? The President did not even govern when he had the majority in both houses . The plans that were passed came from the mosh pit of Democrat constituencies forged by Reid and Pelosi while the President honed his golf game and played celebrity President.
  • Jun 14, 2012, 07:07 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Or do you think the private sector is doing just fine?.

    Hello again, Steve:

    Obama said that the "private sector is doing fine," although the political snafu was not too far from the truth.

    The fact is corporate America is doing fine. Corporate America is making record profits while sitting on nearly $2 trillion, and the income of the wealthiest Americans is soaring. So, capital in the private sector is doing fine. Workers, not so much. But, I'm glad to hear that you care about the workers.

    excon
  • Jun 14, 2012, 07:09 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Ex it's not that the Republicans won't work with Obama.

    Hello tom:

    You can believe that fantasy if you wish. Personally, I believe Mitch McConnell.

    excon
  • Jun 14, 2012, 08:59 AM
    smoothy
    What about ALL the legislation passed by the House that Prince Harry wouldn't even let hit the floor in the Senate the last 3.5 Years?

    After all.. there is this thing called co-equal branches of government... Obama isn't a King... or a god. And they aren't below him... or his underlings.
  • Jun 14, 2012, 09:15 AM
    speechlesstx
    We're just taking Bill Clinton's advice from 2 years ago on what our priority should be.

    Quote:

    "The Democrats are saying something like this: 'We found a big hole that we did not dig. We didn't get it filled in 21 months, but at least we quit digging,'" Clinton said at the time. "'Give us two more years. If it doesn't work, vote us out.'"
    Seems like sound advice to me.
  • Jun 14, 2012, 09:31 AM
    tomder55
    This Trumanesque blame it on the do nothing Congress and Roosevelt like blame it on the rich only worked when the Dems had complete control of the message.

    There are 2 ways he could've handled an opposition Congress .Show strong leadership and get Congress to act like Reagan did ,or triangulate like Clintoon did when he announced the era of big government was over . This guy expects Congress to roll over and play dead ;and then blames them for his failure to make them do so.
  • Jun 14, 2012, 09:59 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Here you go all you whiners about 'do-nothing' Republicans. Here's John Boehner today, standing in front of jobs bills the House has passed that the Democrat controlled Senate that hasn't offered a budget in over 3 years has refused to consider:
  • Jun 14, 2012, 10:33 AM
    tomder55
    If you look closely you can see the tears in his eyes .
  • Jun 14, 2012, 10:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    LOL, I wouldn't doubt it.
  • Jun 14, 2012, 11:11 AM
    tomder55
    But the real problem isn't Congress . It's the American consumer . Face it ,we aren't buying enough thingamajigs .
  • Jun 14, 2012, 11:18 AM
    Wondergirl
    I don't have money to buy thigamagigs.
  • Jun 14, 2012, 11:25 AM
    speechlesstx
    I've been waiting for the price of thingamajigs to come down.
  • Jun 14, 2012, 11:26 AM
    tomder55
    "under my plan ,the cost of thingamajigs will necessarily skyrocket "
  • Jun 14, 2012, 11:27 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I don't have money to buy thigamagigs.

    That's because the middle class buying power has shrunk. But the rich still get richer.
  • Jun 14, 2012, 01:41 PM
    speechlesstx
    Well, the same old clichés aren't going to fix anything.

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