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Trump declares himself a genius

Donald Trump declares himself 'a very stable genius', rejects Michael Wolff book accusations - Donald Trump's America - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Let us examine the facts

He has been bankrupt many times, hardly a recommendation as a savvy business man
His TV appearances consisted of saying you're fired! you don't have to be a genius to do that
He arrived in the White House because of the poor quality of his opponents
He thinks diplomacy is best achieved by insulting other world leaders and sending his gunboats to confront them

There are dozens of additional facts I could cite as to Trump's unsuitability for the job, but I'll stick to one you mentioned.

He didn't arrive in the White House because of the poor quality of his opponent. Hillary Clinton is an accomplished politician/stateswoman who served effectively as Senator and Secretary of State.

Trump arrived in the White House because of the poor quality of the American electorate and the outdated process of vote counting.

Declaring himself a genius was a new low - his supporters will agree, and his sycophants have already said as much publicly.

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There are dozens of additional facts I could cite as to Trump's unsuitability for the job, but I'll stick to one you mentioned.

He didn't arrive in the White House because of the poor quality of his opponent. Hillary Clinton is an accomplished politician/stateswoman who served effectively as Senator and Secretary of State.

Trump arrived in the White House because of the poor quality of the American electorate and the outdated process of vote counting.

Declaring himself a genius was a new low - his supporters will agree, and his sycophants have already said as much publicly.

I wasn't suggesting he is unsuitable for the job, just unskilled. He has no idea how to cooperate despite the fact that he tells us he is a great deal maker.

You may think Hilliary was a great candidate, but she only got the nomination because of party politics not because she was the most popular candidate. Hilliary lost because she didn't work within the system, it wasn't about who got the most votes

Trump is a populist, he reads the average person well and this is where he got votes, because he wasn't prepared to cost jobs for the sake of so called global warming

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Hilliary lost because she didn't work within the system, it wasn't about who got the most votes

..... this is where he got votes, because he wasn't prepared to cost jobs for the sake of so called global warming

Wrong on both counts.

Of course, it's about who got the most votes. That's how the US elects presidents. Populist or not, Trump did NOT get the most votes. Clinton beat him by a wide margin - 3 million votes. This is the widest margin of any losing candidate in US history. For the electoral college, wikipedia is informative.

I understand you are not from the US so you may not be aware how the system works. Global warming had nothing to do with the voting.

I did not say, nor do I think, Hillary was a great candidate. I said she is an effective public servant. She would have made a far better president than Trump.

For proof, look at Trump's year in office. He is operating by Putin's playbook - damaging the historic Western alliance and embracing dictators around the world. He is a naif compared to Putin's sophisticated manipulation. There is no question Russia effectively influenced the election. Whether collusion occurred remains to be seen.

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, look at Trump's year in office. He is operating by Putin's playbook - damaging the historic Western alliance and embracing dictators around the world. He is a naif compared to Putin's sophisticated manipulation. There is no question Russia effectively influenced the election. Whether collusion occurred remains to be seen.

I have, he rolled back 138 Obama initiatives. Russia had a vested interest in not having Hilliary elected, how this translates to influence is yet to be seen. Trump wanted a closer relationship with Vlad but it hasn't eventuated, but no war, so that is something. We really have to get over Russia as an enemy, their ability is small compared to the US. Trump has stayed out of Syria, this is a good thing and the Syrian rebels should realise they cannot win and give up. Syria was in the Russian sphere of influence and remains there, so no Iraq pipeline. Proxy wars should not be fought over such things. Obama lost Iraq, Hilliary would have launched a full scale war

An interesting take on things from afar Clete, but not all based in factual evidence. Rolling back Obama's regulatory isn't a good thing without examining those regulations and evaluating effects long term and short. May be good for business as far as the bottom line but not so good for citizens who live near those businesses or the environment. A simple Google search will enlighten you on that front. Hillary lost, plain and simple but fact is it wasn't by enough to say that it bestowed a mandate on republicans in power to just do as they please, and for sure they don't seem to have the power to do as much as they think they do, and that despite the DECADES of very public attacks and partisan investigations on Hillary that continues to this very day. Yet we still don't know what a Clinton presidency would actually be about, since republicans would still have the power of the congress to keep opposition going just as the did with the former democratic presidency.

Russia is NO FRIEND, but I doubt we have a war over it, and history says we both are very capable of collaborating with each other on many things, but the power struggle is hardly over no matter how deep up Vlad's arse The Dufus shoves his head. The same goes across the international map, but after a year I think it's safe to say The Dufus and his sycophants continues to make a sham of the word "GENIUS" and gives rise daily to their pure INSANITY. Even the defeat of ISIS in Iraq and Syria just moves the conversation, but solves very little except the LOCATION, and that was set in motion by Obama, and Bush before him.

If it's genius to take credit for good outcomes, and blame bad outcomes on somebody else, then The Dufus is a genius, for whatever that means. If he truly was a genius though, he wouldn't have to blow his own horn and would be recognized by others far beyond his sycophants and followers don't you think?

Don't I think? Of course I do, all I wanted was comment on a Trump generated piece of fake news, but obviously the mention of his name stirs up a hornets nest, every politician takes credit for the success of his predecessors. Do I think his every action is positive? No, but he has repealed some Obama overreach. I watch the US because whatever plays out there will eventually be tried here.

Russia is playing the game they have played for centuries and Trump should be aware that an Iranian collapse will mean that Russia, not the US, will be the ones to bail them out. The US is new to this game of influence peddling in the Balkans and Asia and with Trump at the helm they are showing their weakness.

The left have to get over having some of their pet ideas trashed, we don't need cars made less efficient, we need a new mode of transport, you don't need to double down on restrictions, you need to enforce the ones youhave. You do need health care but you need to attack the privilege of the medical profession to get it, not tax the populance with draconian measures, above all you need to stop spending, how does that sound as thoughts from afar

[QUOTE=paraclete;3809623]Don't I think? Of course I do, all I wanted was comment on a Trump generated piece of fake news, but obviously the mention of his name stirs up a hornets nest, every politician takes credit for the success of his predecessors. Do I think his every action is positive? No, but he has repealed some Obama overreach. I watch the US because whatever plays out there will eventually be tried here.[?QUOTE]

Morning Clete, Have you examined his repealing Obama over reaches as I suggested? You know I love facts so here is an interesting link to checkout that outlines the focus of Trumps regulatory policies and actions so far, and while business friendly for sure does little to protect ordinary citizens especially children, workers and communities, from MISTAKES through accountability.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.1650c15eec74

I mean cutting air and water compliance standards is hardly beneficial to anyone but the corporate bottom lines, and taking money from poor areas with underperforming schools might save money, but doesn't bode well for the future of generations of kids who will be unable to compete in the global economy. Matter of fact none of his executive orders returns money to the government coffers but redirects it to other uses that benefit not the citizens, or the states for that matter who may need it, but to private interest to subsidize capitalistic ventures.

I know those 5 second broad sound bites may sound good, but the devil is always in the details. You are correct though as no doubt you may face the same political tricks and traps we are contending with now.

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Russia is playing the game they have played for centuries and Trump should be aware that an Iranian collapse will mean that Russia, not the US, will be the ones to bail them out. The US is new to this game of influence peddling in the Balkans and Asia and with Trump at the helm they are showing their weakness.

Iran won't collapse but will change as it has many times before in it's long history, as they shake off the century of American Euro exploitation that led rise to this theocracy of course with Russia's "HELP". The Dufus frames this as freedom for the people but in fact this new Arab spring is about inequality and unfair distribution of resources, and just my opinion, massive money laundering to help Vlad's ultimate agenda, a favorable middle eastern partner in the areas of military, and economic exploitation. Maybe the US is new in Asia (?), but the Balkans have leaned western since the fall of the old Soviet Union and Vlad would love to have them back, one way or another. The Dufus hasn't exposed weaknesses but torn down completely some structures that have taken a long time to build and we are not sure what he will replace them with, but I just don't think fair competition is helped at all by his tactics.

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The left have to get over having some of their pet ideas trashed, we don't need cars made less efficient, we need a new mode of transport, you don't need to double down on restrictions, you need to enforce the ones youhave. You do need health care but you need to attack the privilege of the medical profession to get it, not tax the populance with draconian measures, above all you need to stop spending, how does that sound as thoughts from afar

I will repeat, the devil is in the DETAILS! You won't get a new form of transportation without making changes to what you have and that process may not yield instant results or be as efficient or cost effective as desired, but you cannot stop the experiment because of initial results. That's just not practical Clete, nor is NOT keeping up with the new ways that some live to exploit and get around the old laws making them virtually UNENFORCEABLE. Long story short, being STUCK on the old ways retards your ability to ADJUST to ever changing circumstances, which to be honest humans are prone to ignore.

Yeah us lefties have to accept the loony right has finally snuck into power, but rolling over to them is NOT an option. LOL, they sure never rolled over to us when they had no power. So instead of getting over it, what's required for progress is getting BUSY and making it better. The Dufus is but a temporary obstacle to be overcome Clete, so my advice is enjoy the show while it lasts. Did you get that popcorn like I told you?

I would be remiss in not thanking you yet again for the opportunity to exchange ideas and opinions as I await the sun coming up and sipping coffee. I'm hell with a good nights sleep ain't I? ;D (Long winded anyway! 8O)

Hi Tal I am replying now because I have been woken by a thunder storm. When the sun comes up perhaps the record breaking temperatures will be gone. As I said, Do I agree with everything he does? No. he is reactionary, his policy is to abandon the path of Obama.. Iran is on the verge of collapse, they are like NK, bankrupt. No one needs to do anything but watch quietly. Vlad knows how vulnerable he is, that is why he projects power in Syria

The genious at work . 1 year later....
The stock market surge has driven up stocks so high that it has rescued all the underfunded union pension funds.......While those unions were foolishly waiting for Democrats to rescue them.

The stock market has been rising since Obama rescued them, so have pension funding, a pretty nice foundation to be built on, don't you think? Lets face it the dems cleaned up the Bush mess pretty good even after his 10 year tax cuts. Five years later, 2 wars and a global crash, deficits up the ying yang! Look I know the repubs are GIDDY getting that deficit funded tax cuts passed, regulations cut, and the eviction notices for the brown people written up, but nobody's party last forever and stuff do happen.

The woman are marching AGAIN, and Japan is raising the tariffs on American beef, and the Turks are still pissed at the Kurds. Hope my tax cuts can keep up with the rising grocery, gas bills.

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The stock market has been rising since Obama rescued them, so have pension funding, a pretty nice foundation to be built on, don't you think? Lets face it the dems cleaned up the Bush mess pretty good even after his 10 year tax cuts. Five years later, 2 wars and a global crash, deficits up the ying yang! Look I know the repubs are GIDDY getting that deficit funded tax cuts passed, regulations cut, and the eviction notices for the brown people written up, but nobody's party last forever and stuff do happen.

The woman are marching AGAIN, and Japan is raising the tariffs on American beef, and the Turks are still pissed at the Kurds. Hope my tax cuts can keep up with the rising grocery, gas bills.

Trump and his Repub partners-in-crime act as though the world began on January 20, 2017. They conveniently overlook the fact that the stock market (and the economy) was steadily rising during the Obama administration. That administration followed the earlier world-wide financial disaster brought on in large part by another Repub administration led by the war criminal Bush Jr.

Now Trump and his pals are steadfastly dismantling all that Obama accomplished. Trump was reported commenting that the tax cut fiasco would provide riches for "my wealthy friends". To the public, he lied that it was a "middle class tax cut".

An IQ test verifying Trump's claim to be a genius would have been preferable to a test designed for those in the throes of dementia, senility , and Althzeimer's. Quite an accomplishment!

Maybe he is a genius who knows, but he is a great liar, telling everybody he will sign a bi partisan deal and when Graham and Durbin gave him one he said NO WAY! Why didn't Moron Mitch the Dufus sycophant just bring it to a vote and send it to the house IF it passed?

Punk Paul would be burned alive if he DARED vote on it and Nancy had the votes for it to pass without a majority of repubs! Everybody knows that, so why are repubs still kissing The Dufus's ring? It doesn't take a genius to not trust repubs, they have had all year to take care of the women, children, and dreamers, and soldiers if that's what they wanted to do. Seems if they had been as relentless in those things as they were getting big business and rich guys more money, then the government wouldn't need to be shutdown.

It is the silly season and the election games have started real early this cycle.

Seriously Tal, and without taking Trump's part, is it too much to ask for the process of government to continue without the argy bargy. The system seems to limp from one petulant issue to the next. Trump dared to tell the Congress he wanted a fix for DACA, not just an executive order, why does the government have to be shut down over it. I think the Dems are just opportunists who rankle at the idea someone should not do what they want.

Undoubtedly this is all electionairing

The reason the emperor did an executive action on DACA is because Congresses of both parties majorities could not come to a consensus . To shut down the government over the issue is stupid ;the biggest mistake the Dems have made since the reign of herr Donald began. The midterm elections will be decided on the economy (probably a 4% growth by the election ) ,and if new voters take this Trump hates women stuff seriously . ( He has hired by far more women into the West Wing,to important positions than any previous President ) .

The government is shutdown because Moron Mitch is afraid of the Dufus, and refused to bring a bi partisan bill to the floor, and protects the house from taking an easy vote and passing with dems help.

Let’s be clear about what the Democrats tried to do here. They wanted to tie DACA to the government funding bill so they could save DACA in exchange for funding govt. instead of later having to agree to a lot of border security measures to protect DACA on a separate bill.

The government is open and Moron Mitch finally did his job and ignored The Dufus. I hope they keep ignoring him and just do their jobs.