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3 months ago my cousin stole books from a store, and he said alarm went off and they saw him walk out and get in his car. If they for his plate numbers and choose to press charges what would happen ? He has not heard anything from police and he called courts and they don't have any warrant for him... he is also on probation and wonders if his PO would have known if they were pursuing him
If someone didn't show up on the doorstep with a badge in the first few days, chances are no one knows/cares.
Yeah, they must have not written it down or made a mistake on the license plate number cause it can be easily connected back to an address by the police.
They probably need more than just a plate number and an alarm. In order for a conviction they'd need video or witnesses and other evidence. The police probably won't arrest someone that can't be convicted.
So if store wanted to press charges police would go to question suspect or just put out warrant or summons for them..
You can never predict what the police will do...
Oh, forgot ~tell your cousin not to shoplift anymore. Its really a dumb thing to do!
Yea I told him , but I don't get it, if they were going to charge him they would send summons , show up to question him , or put out warrant ? And his PO wouldve known right
I went to my local courthouse today to ask if I had any unpaid fines from years ago and fortunatly I did not , but if I had a warrant for anything else besides the fines would it have popped up on their computer ? Like if I had charges pressed on me for something else and never was notified for it...
Would they have seen it when they ran my name
Yes. He probably got away with it.
So they probably would have to question him before they charged him for it ? They wouldn't just put out warrant or summons..
Yea shady they would have, like say for instance if you had shoplifted but got away. Say you were in a bookstore (just an example) and you took a couple books and the alarm went off as you ran out to your car. A store employee followed you out and got your license plate number... and low and behold there WAS a warrant issued for that, they would have nabbed you today.
No they are probably setting up a sting operation. You are probably being watched right now.
If you don't do stupid things you don't have to worry about getting caught and getting away but seen and then what?
No one can tell for sure what is going to happen because we don't know really what kind of evidence the store has. Usually the person has to be caught read handed at the scene or fleeing the scene for shoplifing charges. Chances are you or your cousin got away this time. I hope if either of you ever even thinks about stealing anything again you have a full blown panic attack, just thinking about it!
Be a good person from now on.
Or they would have sent a summons I guess ?
Did you get a summons?
No I didn't . I just don't understand why sometimes they send summons or sometimes they put out warrants. Is a summons just to go to court, and a warrant is only if you don't answer a summons... and in this situation wouldn't you have to be notified if you were to be charged or questioned first...
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Originally Posted by shadykorn
J_9 is right.
If you'd be a little more honest we could probably give you more specific answers that more closely pertain to your specific situation.
There are a number of reasons people are summonsed to court.
What do you mean be more honest . I told you what happened.
OK I thought maybe you and your cousin might really be the same person. I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, just trying to make sure I understand what you are asking.
No we aren't the same person. Why , would it be differnet consequences if it was me or him ?
You understand what happened don't you
I think so. I don't think you have anything at all to worry about. Just stay out of trouble and you should have smooth sailing :)
One time I forgot to pay a ticket. By the time I remembered to pay it, I had a warrant. I worried that I could be arrested just going in to pay it, but luckily they just let me pay it and did not arrest me. If you went in and asked if you had any past unpaid fines and they said no, they also would have known if you had a warrant for anything else. You're safe! YIPPE!!
No, if you merely went to the court house where you may owe fines they may not have a NCIC access to see if there are warrants in other areas nor may they know of a even a local warrant.
You will need to get a actuall police background check to know if there are any warrants
Yes we are watching them . HUMMMM
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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
Absolutely - and I've posted this before. The Courthouse records and Police records are two different things.
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Originally Posted by shadykorn
It would be an arrest warrant, not a summons, if the Police are so inclined.
Shady, if you've been shady in more than your local court jurisdiction you should check county state and national too, to be sure you don't have a warrant sitting around somewhere. You can go to the Sheriff's office and ask for a background check and they can run you through their computer system to see if anything comes up from anywhere in the country.
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Originally Posted by Sunflowers
In my area (NY) the Police are connected to the nationwide system. If the Police don't have it in one jurisdiction, they don't have it in another.
I'm sure this varies from State to State.
When I run a background I go to one Police Department.
But if he shoplifted in that township woulnt it be in their computers? And wouldn't his PO have found out when he ran a routine warrant check on him
Right , and he checked with the township courts and they had no warrants on him... and what about his PO finding out
If there was no complaint, no arrest warrant, there's nothing to put on the computer so, no, it wouldn't be on the Township's computer.
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If you are still worried, why not call the local court house you went to and ask them if they have NCIC access and if they used that to tell you that you had no past fines. If you lived in my neck of the woods, the Sheriff at the court house could do that for you ~and check for warrants too
My opinion is that the PO is not going to find out. This happened 3 months ago? It is my opinion and my view that if the PO was going to find out he would have found out by now.
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Originally Posted by Sunflowers
Agreed - I would think (aside from the conversational/advice aspect) that if ANYONE intended to do anything, they would have done it by now.
Also he was pulled over for running a red light so when the cop ran his name then wouldn't warrant have come up or do they not do a NCIC check on traffic stops... this was like a month ago
Maybe he should do one of these online warrant checks?? Its not possible warrant is out and he isn't notified and his PO never ran his name to check recently< But still I think he would be brought in for questioning first...
Yeah but doesn't that look suspicious, if they already told him he has no warrants , why would he go and say "just wondering if you did NCIC check" Don't you think his PO runs his name once in a while to make sure he doesn't have warrants.. guess he could pay to do one online, but really I think he would have heard either in mail , by police visit to house , or when he got pulled over for a traffic stop a month ago..
What no one seems to know is if store wanted to get him for it , would he be questioned first and then charged , sent court summons, just have warrant, or what? Isn't there a process that this whole thing goes by ?
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