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  • Feb 20, 2009, 09:36 AM
    Stephenbk2006
    I need a Drivers License
    I am in need of a drivers license. In June of 2006 I was arrested in W.Va.(USA) and bonded out, I then jumped bond and hualed out of the state. I have not returned since, nor have I showed up for a single court date, not even my prelim. I now live in Alabama and I have tried to get a DL, but this state will not grant me one until I take of the warrant in W.Va. W.Va. Is not willing to extradicte me from here, I know because I was arrested for selling alcohol to a minor. I spent 13days in jail waiting to be extradicted back to W.Va. only to be told they were not willing to come get me. My question is, is there any other state in the U.S.of A that will grant me a DL with an existing warrant in another state?
  • Feb 20, 2009, 10:13 AM
    JudyKayTee

    In one word - no.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 11:22 AM
    twinkiedooter

    No. Not until you clear up your outstanding warrants. Warrants do not expire either. You'll have to take care of them by going back to West Virginia. Just because they won't extradite you means you'll have to voluntarily go back at your expense and face your consequences.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 12:12 PM
    stevetcg

    I wouldn't worry too much about the license... you aren't going to need it for a while. Hop on a bus and head back home... this WILL haunt you forever.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 12:56 PM
    JudyKayTee

    I don't know what other answer you want from me. The answer is no. There are no loopholes.

    There is no yes or maybe here.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 12:57 PM
    JudyKayTee
    [QUOTE=Comments on this post
    Stephenbk2006 agrees: True, but when did the Limitations of Experations retire?.[/QUOTE]


    There IS no Statute on warrants - they live forever.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 01:16 PM
    ScottGem

    In our age of computerization, all states have set up reciprocal arrangements to prevent such things.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 01:48 PM
    stevetcg

    Basically what scott was saying is that all state DMVs know what any of them do. If you got a speeding ticket in CA, the DMV in FL knows about it.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 02:32 PM
    twinkiedooter

    Stephen - You obviously came here wanting to get a "magic" answer to your question - and that's not going to happen, sorry. We don't give out magic loophole answers where there is no magic answer available.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 02:36 PM
    LadyLuck_73008
    Actually as far as I know there is not another state that will grant you license with that on your record. The best option you have is to have a family member or friend pay for a bus ticket back and just settle your problems sorry if you don't like that answer, but things like these never go away :)
  • Feb 20, 2009, 02:39 PM
    excon

    Hello Stephen:

    It might be possible to hire an attorney in W. Va. Who can take care of it without your presence. If all they want is MONEY, and your lawyer shows up with some, it MIGHT get handled that way.

    Or not.

    excon
  • Feb 20, 2009, 02:49 PM
    Stephenbk2006

    Thank you all for responding I have came to same conclusion as well, but thought that there may be some other way without having to go through all that BS, I am however working on getting a governors pardon and hiring a lawyer if that doesn't work
  • Feb 20, 2009, 02:52 PM
    this8384

    Your original question aside, I'd like to know why you're having so much trouble with this. Maybe your state laws are different than mine, but my husband's ex-wife did the same thing back in 2006. No arrest, no bond... she paid a $531.00 fine and that was it.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 02:53 PM
    stevetcg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stephenbk2006 View Post
    Thank you all for responding I have came to same conclusion as well, but thought that there may be some other way without having to go through all that BS, I am however working on getting a governors pardon and hiring a lawyer if that doesn't work

    Hire a lawyer. You aren't going to get a governer's pardon... particularly since you haven't been convicted of anything yet.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 02:55 PM
    this8384

    How to Apply for a Governor's Pardon | eHow.com

    As stevetcg said and point #2 on the above website states, you can't get pardoned if you're waiting for a hearing.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:04 PM
    Stephenbk2006

    The charge is a Felony FTA and my family believes that something can be done without me going back, I am trying as well to get my charge dropped, with a fine and to be banded from the state indefinetly
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:08 PM
    stevetcg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stephenbk2006 View Post
    The charge is a Felony FTA and my family believes that something can be done without me going back, I am trying as well to get my charge dropped, with a fine and to be banded from the state indefinetly

    Um... yeah - that's not how the law works. You cannot be banned from a state. You will most likely get a fine, but that is not having the charge dropped, that is having it plead out.

    Seriously... get a lawyer and stop listening to friends and family.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:10 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevetcg View Post
    Hire a lawyer. You arent going to get a governer's pardon... particularly since you havent been convicted of anything yet.


    I'd like to know specifically what OP is doing to get the Governor's pardon.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:22 PM
    Stephenbk2006

    Well I am not going back-- ever, I am facing a 3 strikes law, with the min. a life sentence and the max. a life without and all that for a nonviolent crime. So if what all you are saying is true, then I am better off just placing my .45 to my head and pull the trigger.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:25 PM
    excon

    Hello again, S:

    If you're such a bad guy, why didn't they come to get you when they could?

    I don't think THEY think you're such a bad guy, or they would have come. If you don't take care of if, you'll be put in jail again like you were last time, only to find out they don't still want you.

    excon
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:25 PM
    this8384
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stephenbk2006 View Post
    The charge is a Felony FTA and my family believes that something can be done without me going back, I am trying as well to get my charge dropped, with a fine and to be banded from the state indefinetly

    The charge is now a felony FTA because you skipped on the first charge, which was selling alcohol to minors. I cannot find any supporting documentation that states it's a felony to sell alcohol to minors; all I can find is citations being issued, nobody gets arrested.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:30 PM
    this8384
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stephenbk2006 View Post
    Well I am not going back-- ever, I am facing a 3 strikes law, with the min. a life sentence and the max. a life without and all that for a nonviolent crime. So if what all ya'll are saying is true, then I am better off just placing my .45 to my head and pull the trigger.

    After reading this, I'm seriously beginning to think this is a troll. First it started as he skipped out on court, then it turns into him being a felon on the run, now he's threatenin suicide?

    A life sentence? Give me a break.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:33 PM
    Stephenbk2006

    My charge of a Felony FTA is not for sale of alcohol to a minor its for B&E, Petty Larceny, and for Failure To Appear in court in W.Va.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:34 PM
    this8384

    Okie doke... now we know. You screwed yourself over royally by breaking the law, then ignoring the courtdates that were scheduled for you.

    Get your story straight the next time.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:37 PM
    this8384
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevetcg View Post
    You cannot be banned from a state.

    Uh, you probably don't know what you're talking about because I'm about a bajillion percent sure I saw this on an episode of Perry Mason... so there. ;)
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:40 PM
    Stephenbk2006
    Here's a little brief rundown of my Dramatization
    1994: 3 counts of B&E, 6 counts of Grand Larceny and 2 counts of Grand Theft Auto
    Sentence: 6 months in a first offenders program
    1996: Violation of Probation, 1 count of illegal firearms possession
    Sentence: 5 years in Federal Prison
    2001: 1 count of B&E, violation of Federal Probation
    Sentence: 4 years in state prison, 1 year in Federal Prison
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:44 PM
    this8384

    6 months for 3 counts of B&E, 6 counts of larceny and 2 counts of GTA? Oh my dear lord... now I've heard it all.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:49 PM
    Stephenbk2006

    Yes that's right all those counts were ran concurrently with each other, why you say it can't be done?
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:50 PM
    this8384

    Because you're a habitual offender. If that's the honest to God truth, that prosecuting attorney should be shot.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 03:58 PM
    Stephenbk2006

    You haven't heard about the restitution I am still paying on: $152,017.23 this is going to take the rest of my life to pay off.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 04:00 PM
    this8384

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stephenbk2006
    You haven't heard about the restitution I am still paying on: $152,017.23 this is going to take the rest of my life to pay off.

    Ohhh, my... I can't do this anymore :)
  • Feb 20, 2009, 04:13 PM
    ScottGem

    This is a weird one. I'm also starting to think troll, but the level of detail gives me pause. I have trouble believing that WV would not want to send someone to AL to pick up a 3 timer, especially with this record.

    There is also another issue. The OP posted another thread (which I removed for its racist overtones), in which he claimed to have called the police because a store wouldn't give him a refund on a cell phone. Can anyone imagine such an habitual criminal calling the police?
  • Feb 20, 2009, 04:14 PM
    this8384

    No, but I can imagine someone with nothing better to do sitting around, making up stories and then posting them on an advice website.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 04:16 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stephenbk2006 View Post
    You haven't heard about the restitution I am still paying on: $152,017.23 this is going to take the rest of my life to pay off.


    You know, I've always wanted to be First Assistant to the Easter Bunny. When you're through working on this improbable situation, could you help me with the Easter Bunny thing?
  • Feb 20, 2009, 04:18 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    And that is when most likely you can get a new one, No there is no state that will issue you one,
    And anytime you are stopped by the police the warrant will show up and you can get held again pending them to decide again if they will. You can be stopped and held pending a decission dozens of times.

    But then on the other hand, they can't hold you for more than 1 hour to decide. After that if they decide to keep you the other state is suppose to come after you.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 04:18 PM
    Stephenbk2006

    Look I am not perfect, I have totally learned from my mistakes, and I have been living in Alabama for 3 years, with no major trouble aside from a few minor traffic tickets, and that sale of alcohol incedent( by the way it was a sting operation by the local and state police force). I just want to live my life peacefully and quietly, I was just trying to reach out for some info on my current predictament, no matter how bad it is, I am not going to resort to crime ever again whatever the reason.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 04:19 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stephenbk2006 View Post
    Here's a little brief rundown of my Dramatization
    1994: 3 counts of B&E, 6 counts of Grand Larceny and 2 counts of Grand Theft Auto
    Sentence: 6 months in a first offenders program
    1996: Violation of Probation, 1 count of illegal firearms possession
    Sentence: 5 years in Federal Prison
    2001: 1 count of B&E, violation of Federal Probation
    Sentence: 4 years in state prison, 1 year in Federal Prison


    Let's see - you were born in the year of the Tiger. How old are you?
  • Feb 20, 2009, 04:22 PM
    stevetcg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stephenbk2006 View Post
    Look I am not perfect, I have totally learned from my mistakes, and I have been living in Alabama for 3 years, with no major trouble aside from a few minor traffic tickets, and that sale of alcohol incedent( by the way it was a sting operation by the local and state police force). I just want to live my life peacefully and quietly, I was just trying to reach out for some info on my current predictament, no matter how bad it is, I am not going to resort to crime ever again whatever the reason.

    Except you haven't paid your debt for your previous crimes yet, so you don't get to just start over and be good from now on.

    EVERYONE facing a long jail term wants a do over and just be good from now on. No one in prison is there planning on getting out and returning to a life of crime. Of course many of them do, but when asked, no one WANTS to go back to being a scumbag.

    Pay your debt to society and THEN talk about being an upstanding citizen.

    With a drivers license.
  • Feb 20, 2009, 04:26 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    If you don't have a drivers license how did any traffic stop end up in just a "minor" traffic ticket, it would have been driving without a license, and not a minor issue.

    But yes, you will be on the "run" and have trouble getting a good job, renting a good apartment because of a criminal record
  • Feb 20, 2009, 04:32 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    From the year of the tiger being
    1999 and 1987 would be my guess

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