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Today in gym class I went to the bathroom and stopped in the locker room afterwards. I noticed some people left their backpacks unattended and decided to take a look inside. I looked in the outer pocket of one backpack and took twenty dollars. That's it though-I didn't even open up anymore backpacks. I don't even know who I took the twenty from. Can't say I care cause I hate all those girls anyway.
But that last fact aside, I know I should feel bad. But I don't. Does this make me a bad person?
Hello joy:Quote:
Originally Posted by joyousfailure
Yes.
excon
It not only makes you a bad person, it also makes you a thief.Quote:
Originally Posted by joyousfailure
Keep it up and you can make new friends in jail. I hear the girls in jail are really nice. As long as you don't mine putting out.
I would say that it does make you a bad person. Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean that you should steal from them or even be mean to them. Everyone knows people they don't like but there are other people who still like them. Also you don't even know who you stole from which makes the fact that you stole from them worse.
Hmm. I got yes coming from all sides. That's OK, I did ask. But still... you all any better? Don't even answer- no. You all aren't any better. So get off the high horses (especially altenweg)
Hello again, joy:Quote:
Originally Posted by joyousfailure
Yes. I don't steal.
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You asked.Quote:
Originally Posted by joyousfailure
As for being better, yes, I am. I'm not a thief. I've been the victim of thieves, but I've never stolen anything. I like my high horse, and I have the right to sit on it, especially when it comes to you.
You asked if stealing was bad. Do you not realize that that's what you did? You stole. You took something that doesn't belong to you. That's against the law. That also makes you a bad person, at least if you don't learn from it, which you already admitted you wouldn't.
You're the one that said you don't feel remorse. What's next? Planning on kidnapping someone, raping someone, killing someone? Will you care then?
Don't ask the question if you don't want to hear the answer.
Meh. I stole a couple things in my day. Do I regret it? Not really. Am I proud of it? Nope.
You want to make it right and feel better? Give the girl $20 back.
OR
Just don't steal. It's not a very good habit to form.. you can go to jail. Jail isn't fun from what I hear--- makes living with your parents like a vacation.
Anywhozzils, don't steal.
Actually yes, I am better. I don't steal and that makes me a better person.Quote:
Originally Posted by joyousfailure
"You're the one that said you don't feel remorse. What's next? Planning on kidnapping someone, raping someone, killing someone? Will you care then?"
Why do people think stealing always leads to this? Most of the time it doesn't happen.
"You asked if stealing was bad. Do you not realize that that's what you did? You stole. You took something that doesn't belong to you. That's against the law. That also makes you a bad person, at least if you don't learn from it, which you already admitted you wouldn't."
Yeah, I know Im a bad person in the back of my mind. And yeah I know what's right and wrong. But there was a whole other side to the story! Those girls are real b! ches.
So?Quote:
Yeah, I know Im a bad person in the back of my mind. And yeah I know what's right and wrong. But there was a whole other side to the story! Those girls are real b! ches.
Those girls are b!tches. It happens. The world is full of people that are b!tches or worse. I know that more then most.
So, because they're b!tches to you, you stoop to their level?
Do you not realize that by stealing, you've become worse then them?
Do you want to be part of the pack or do you want to be a good person?
The choice is yours. So far you're following in their footsteps. One bad act does not deserve another. It makes you just as bad as them, or worse.
There are a lot of people that are b**ches and you are going to bump into them throughout your life. You don't have to feel bad about stealing from them, but stealing is still bad.Quote:
But there was a whole other side to the story! Those girls are real b! ches.
Yeah pretty sure that stealing is bad, and if you don't feel bad about it, then you are a bad person.
Don't ask a question if you know you won't like the answer, it looks to me like you're trying to justify it because "Oh those girls are MEAN"
So being mean to the mean girls makes it better? No, it just gives them even more of a reason to be B!tches" GTF over it and control yourself. Don't play the pity party to us, YOU were the one who stole. Why should we feel sorry for you? You're clearly not the victim in this situation.
Please grow up.
What do you think they'll say about you if they find out you stole from them and don't even feel bad about it. I'm guessing the word 'b!tch' will come up more than once.Quote:
Originally Posted by joyousfailure
You're not getting revenge or showing them up. All you're doing is becoming one of them. From the little you've said so far, I think it's already too late for an easy fix.
"Yeah pretty sure that stealing is bad, and if you don't feel bad about it, then you are a bad person.
Don't ask a question if you know you won't like the answer, it looks to me like you're trying to justify it because "Oh those girls are MEAN"
So being mean to the mean girls makes it better? No, it just gives them even more of a reason to be B!tches" GTF over it and control yourself. Don't play the pity party to us, YOU were the one who stole. Why should we feel sorry for you? You're clearly not the victim in this situation.
Please grow up."
You don't even know what those girls did. Im not playing a pity card. Im giving the other side of the story. WHY should I care if people Im never gonna know have "sympathy" for me? Jesus christ...
Sounds like you are the one who needs to grow up, making ignorant assumptions and all. And "victim"? Come on man... its 20 bucks from some well-off kid.
Hi. I wasn't the coolest back in my hometown high school.Quote:
Originally Posted by joyousfailure
I dealt with those "b!tches".
I was spat on once. Most of it was rumors and crazy backstabbing.
I cried. I keyed their car. I stole their boyfriends. I made up my own rumors about them.
Did it help? Nah.
Best thing to do about those people is to ignore them. Once I got a hold of that concept my life got easier.
You didn't tell us. Are we supposed to guess or read your mind? We only know what you choose to tell.Quote:
You don't even know what those girls did.
Read your original post. You never gave the other side of the story, you just told us that you stole and you're not sorry. Then you asked if you're a bad person. We answered your question. If you chose not to tell us all the facts, that's your problem, not ours. My crystal ball is on the fritz and I can't read minds.Quote:
Im not playing a pity card. Im giving the other side of the story.
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Today in gym class I went to the bathroom and stopped in the locker room afterwards. I noticed some people left their backpacks unattended and decided to take a look inside. I looked in the outer pocket of one backpack and took twenty dollars. That's it though-I didn't even open up anymore backpacks. I don't even know who I took the twenty from. Can't say I care cause I hate all those girls anyway.
But that last fact aside, I know I should feel bad. But I don't. Does this make me a bad person?
Is that what you're looking for? Sympathy, for stealing? You won't find it here. You won't find it in court, or in jail. It's not like you put a "kick me" sign on this girls back. You stole, that's a crime! Do you really not realize that?Quote:
WHY should I care if people Im never going to know have "sympathy" for me? Jesus christ...
Assumptions? Again, we only know what you told us. That's it. You told us you stole and that you're not sorry.Quote:
Sounds like you are the one who needs to grow up, making ignorant assumptions and all. And "victim"? Come on man... its 20 bucks from some well-off kid.
Also, what does the fact that the girl is well off have to do with it? Stealing from a rich person doesn't make it right. It's still stealing.
Didn't your parents teach you right from wrong? Well, I'm here to tell you, as a mom, stealing is wrong. It's a crime. You could go to jail.
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Originally Posted by joyousfailure
You're not giving the "other" side of the story, you're telling us that they're mean so you stole from them, and then you're trying to justify the fact that you stole from them by saying that they're "b!tches" and they're well of so it's no big deal.
The fact is, is when you steal from someone, the person you stole from became a victim, no matter what it is, it could be monetary or sentimental, doesn't matter, you took what doesn't belong to you, and you're trying to make us say that it's okay, we're not going to do that.
I'm not making an ignorant assumption, I'm telling you what is fact. And you said yourself that you don't even know who you took from, how can you be SO sure that that $20 that you stole wasn't all the cash they had? Even if they had more than that in their wallet along with the $20, you don't know what it was for. Medication maybe? Car payment? Phone bill? This girl might have worked her A$$ off for that money, and you assume she has it all. You're being selfish. That's all there is to it.
I don't need to grow up, I'm not the one who steals from girls just because I don't like them, and I'm not the one getting mad at other people for telling me that I've done something wrong when I asked the question in the first place.
Once again, please mature.
Do you honestly think that returning like with like will make them act any better toward you? What if that money was someone's lunch money for the week and because of you they can't eat? What if it was hard-earned money for christmas presents and now someone isn't getting a gift because of you? What if that was money they owed to someone else? What if you didn't actually take money from someone who could afford to lose it, but from someone who had to work hard just to get the little bit of money you decided to take?
My family almost didn't get christmas gifts because of someone like you. They decided that since I had more money than them, that they needed the money more than I did. Never mind the fact that I had worked hard for every penny. Or that I was saving that money so I could mail what little I could afford to get for my family to them for christmas. Or that I am currently homeless and have to save every penny I can so that when I finally have a place I'll be able to have someone more than the floor to sleep on and maybe even some dishes to eat off. Because of someone like you, I lost what little money I had been able to save, twice, and I almost wasn't able to get my nieces and nephew anything for christmas, or his birthday. Someone who saw nothing wrong with stealing money form someone they saw as more privilaged than them, so much so that they repeated the action.
I think you are worried about it otherwise you wouldn't have gone to the trouble of signing up here to ask , either that or you're a Troll.
Want to feel better , give the money to charity and DON'T steal again.
Or just put the money back in the bag tomorrow.
If you honestly don't feel bad, then why are you here? I have two theories. Either you're looking for someone to agree with you, or you just want to brag. Either way, you're not going to find what you're looking for here.
Yes, because you have no remorse.
Hello Joy,
If I took twenty dollars from everyone I hated, I would be a millionare...
You shouldn't steal.
Dishonesty ALWAYS leads to more dishonesty. Short brag - I've been successful on both sides of the law - I find I like myself a lot more when I don't have to lie to account for things, like where all the money came from.Quote:
Originally Posted by joyousfailure
You want to be a thief, be a thief. Don't go bragging on the internet about petty pilfering, though. When you get away with some large, we'll applaud.
If you have no remorse, then why are you here?
If it's "just twenty dollars', where is it now? Did you spend it?
No, I don't think that you are necessarily "bad".
I think that you are making BAD choices.
I think that you have a BAD attitude.
I think that you are practicing BAD behavior.
Don't try to validate your theft by saying that these girls are B----s.
You are not tough. You are not "Robin Hood".
You are on the road to being a punk criminal though.
Go give twenty dollars to charity, and get your life together before you steal a car from someone you don't like.
A "Good" Person would feel remourse to stealing from others. A "Bad" person doesn't.
A "Good" person would go out and earn that $20. A "Bad" person thinks they are entitled to what other people work to earn.
Now look at it this way... suppose it was YOUR backpack that the $20 was stolen from... would you feel so smug then? Because its going to happen eventually. And you won't be able to complain because you did it to others.
It doesn't matter what the other girls are or aren't. IF you lower yourself to their standards... then you are no different than they are, and actually worse... they are what they are.. but YOU chose to toss aside any morals to be at their level with little thought on the matter.
If you want to believe yourself to be better than they are... then you have to hold yourself to higher standards of behaviour. Otherwise you are just deluding yourself.
No it isn't the easy way... but it's the right way. Eventually you might see the difference between them.
Unless you do... you will do worse things that can and might land you in jail (or Reform school). And THEN you get to be someone's (someone really bad) prison wife or slave.
Why did you choose the name "joyousfailure"?
I cannot imagine being in my teens, considering myself to be a failure (judging from the screen name), stealing to "get even" with people I don't like and having to post on a public forum in order to make myself feel better.
Sad indeed.
Hello Judy:Quote:
Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
I can. People change.
excon
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Originally Posted by excon
You read me wrong - I meant that I can't imagine the pain this person is in.
I never meant this is the path to life-long criminal activity.
So true.Quote:
Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
She can change. She can learn from this and be a better person. The choice is hers.
She has to see that justifying her behavior isn't going to work. There isn't any way to justify what she did. She stole, plain and simple. She thinks it's okay, it isn't. The girls are mean so she'll stoop to their level and be meaner. That's what it boils down to.
She's young. I hope she does learn from this mistake. I hope she realizes that a life of crime is not going to get even with the girls that treat her badly. The only person she's hurting is herself.
Hello again, Judy:Quote:
Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
I understood what you were saying. You said that you couldn't imagine the pain... I said that I could. It was ME who added the part about people changing. I wasn't suggesting that you didn't think they could.
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Woah woah woah-"You are not tough. You are not "Robin Hood"."
"yeah, she's proud of $20"
"You want to be a thief, be a thief. Don't go bragging on the internet about petty pilfering, though. When you get away with some large, we'll applaud."
WHERE did that all come from? I never said anything like that. How is it on one hand its "just 20 dollars", but on the other hand I'm robbing somebody of Christmas gifts, food for the week and a 20 they "worked their a$$ off for"? Get it straight. Enough hypothetical situations and double standards.
"I cannot imagine being in my teens, considering myself to be a failure (judging from the screen name), stealing to "get even" with people I don't like and having to post on a public forum in order to make myself feel better.
Sad indeed."
I am not a sad case.
There is no "double standard".Quote:
Originally Posted by joyousfailure
You stole some money. That is a crime. You feel no remorse. You feel justified in taking from these people because they are mean and have plenty.
Am I right so far?
You come here asking if what you did makes you a bad person. You are now getting upset with the answers that you are being given.
Right is right. You are wrong in this instance. Why do you argue? Why won't you face the fact that the twenty dollars was not yours to take?
In your original post, you actually wanted credit for not taking more.
Is this the first time that you have stolen something?
What did these girls do to you that is so bad?
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Originally Posted by joyousfailure
That's where you are wrong - you are, indeed, a sad case.
You stole and need to post the whole story here both to get attention and to justify your actions. Most thieves just keep it to themselves - unless, of course, it's all about the attention.
Your user name says it all - you are a failure and you are happy about it. I think that's sad.
Yes, you are sad indeed from several standpoints.
The reason we're telling you all of these things Joy is the fact that you yourself told us them, and we're telling you why it's wrong. You can't be mad at us because you did the wrong thing, we weren't the ones who stole the money. It doesn't matter if it's "only' $20 or "only' $2. The amount doesn't justify what you did, if you keep heading down this path you're "only going to be taking $200 from that job you don't like anyway" and taking "$500 worth of stuff from that store that's overpriced anyway."
Your train of thought is WRONG, and quite frankly, pathetic and selfish. You can't expect us to just let you try to rationalize this behavior and not call you out on it.
If we told you it was no big deal, exactly what would that make us? Just like you, we don't want to do that.
I'm not mad at any answers- I'm mad about the assumptions being made. Really, when DID I say I was proud of anything. I didn't.
"pathetic and selfish."
What's selfish?
BTW I am not happy to be a failure. I pulled the name out of my head. I didn't put much thought into it at the time, but I guess it symbolizes the quick ups and downs people feel. From having such great joy to being knocked down with a feeling like failure as if someone pushed you over.
This statement completely contradicts the way you've been responding in your previous posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by joyousfailure
If you don't feel bad about about it, then what DO you feel?
Are you just getting mad at us because we're not telling you that what you did was okay?
Or are you asking if you're a bad person because you DO feel remorse but you'd rather justify it rather than admitting it?
You're not dealing with idiots here, we're not buying your bull. Come clean with your feelings if you think we're making assumptions. Prove us wrong, I dare you.
I'd like to know if you have stolen before please?
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