Attention all small business owners or individulas who are interested in establishing "Business Credit" donot become a member of NSBA located in California because National Small Business Alliance is a FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD. NSBA guarantees a credit limit of $8,000.00
Travel, Business Marketing, Business Credit, American Express, and Computers Hotel Rental etc. NSBA is a FRAUD because the company refuses to refund the membership fee of $98.00 and it's a way to get your Bank Account information and begin taking money form your account.
Unfortnaley, I 've contacted NSBA several (over 40) times and there is never a supervisor or manager present and they never return any of my calls. Therefore, I come to conclusion that that there are several law suits and compliants filed on NSBA, but if there is a supervisor from National Small Business Alliance reading this FRAUD Alert. I would like to solute you for taking the opportunity to read my compliant about NSBA, but I would like to let you compnay know that NSBA seems to practice the 1st Amendment so I will make it my duty to practice the 5th Amendment by contacting the BBB, US Attorney General, ACLU and other organizations inreagards to these issues until I receive a written explination. I will mail several letters a week stating that NSBA is FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD and nothing more.
If there are any Small Business owners reading this or S-Corporations or C-Corporations, LLC and desire Business Credit I would be delighted to let you know what I know to build Business Credit for free @ no charge. Please donot invest into companies like NSBA and donot take my word. Research Research beginning eith the BBB.
;) :p
CHAYO BRIGGS

I canceled my membership with the National Small Business Alliance immediately after I received my membership information packet because the information that I was given when I was initially contacted was extremely misleading in regards to what types of services they provided. I promptly return all the information that they required with full expectations that they would honor your 100%guarantee.
I have been extremely patient. I had no problem with the 30 business day turn around for my refund. My cancellation date was August 19th, nearly four months ago! I have called numerous times, and have gotten numerous responses and excuses on why I have not received my "Guaranteed" refund. One of the calls I made I did get the name a the supervisor, and the phone number where she could be reached, but every time I called the number I got her voice mail and never received a reply to any of the messages that I left. I have sent emails on several occasions, also with no response.
I feel like I have gotten the run around from them. I have to wonder if this is the way the they conduct business, what business do you have consulting small business at all. I am under the impression that they are running nothing but a scam and preying on small and newly established businesses.

I cancelled my membership 5 months ago... they took $389.85 out of my bank account. I use that money to pay my rent... when I tried to write a check to pay my rent my bank said it was insufianct funds!! I found out NSBA has been withdrawing money even after I cancelled. I asked for a refund... after a lot of yelling they agreed. They I said the refund would be sent out on that Friday... 1 week later I call back.. the said I'm only getting a refund of 120.00 wich will be sent out next Friday... OMG I was sooooo MAD!! I still have not received the refund!! I'm waiting right now for them to open being as they are a few hrs behind me... im going to call anc tell them if they don't put that ****in money back into my account I'm going to the news stations!! And calling my state rep!!

If you read the BBB most of these people state that they don't remember signing up, we stole there money, but every person who signs up with NSBA must have a verbal contact that passes though Quality Assurance. They have all agreed to the terms and condition on the discloser that is pre-recorded. Also, If they were due a refund they were refuned. If you look all of out BBB have been resolved.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

Dear Kelly,
So I can better assist you please provide me with your member verification number so I can locate your account and update you.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

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I cancelled my membership 5 months ago...they took $389.85 out of my bank account. I use that money to pay my rent...when i tried to write a check to pay my rent my bank said it was insufianct funds!!!! I found out NSBA has been withdrawing money even after i cancelled. I asked for a refund...after alot of yelling they agreed. They i said the refund would be sent out on that friday....1 week later i call back..the said im only getting a refund of 120.00 wich will be sent out next friday.....OMG i was sooooo MAD!!!!! I still have not received the refund!!! im waiting right now for them to open being as they r a few hrs behind me....im gonna call anc tell them if they dont put that ****in money back into my account im going to the news stations!!! and calling my state rep!!!!!

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This scam outfit has been harassing me for over a year on my RESIDENTIAL PHONE LINE with recorded solicitations at least once a week, often more, and sometimes even several times A DAY.

The message tries to get the listener to push a button to speak to someone, but it also says that by doing so you are accepting their offer. I'm glad they have an F rating, and I hope they get what's coming to them when enough people expose their scam and their bogus "preapproved $8000 credit line for your small business." LIARS.

Anyone who's reading this thread because they've had bad experiences with this company NEEDS TO SPEAK OUT. Contact your local BBB and make a complaint. Contact your Attorney General's office as well, and media consumer watchdogs. Crooks get away with their scams because good people fail to report them.

The icing on NSBA's rotten cake is that their website actually displays a logo for the FBAA, the so-called "Fair Business Association of America," another scam organization. The FBAA solicits businesses that have been exposed by the BBB for being cheats, scams, and losers, and offers to say that their company is actually reputable and trustworthy -- for a fee, of course.

It's rather touching, I suppose, one scammer promoting another... *sniff*
The FBAA does serve one valid service, however: The list of affiliated members makes a great BEWARE: SCAMMERS! List.

Yes, they are to be stayed away from, don't walk away, run away.

P-Clare, I agree with you 100% and I too hope other individuals speak out about NSBA scam.

First I advise everyone to stay away from these people,

But I will say when paying or buying anything, consider using your credit card. You can stop future payments from them, and can challenge payments made and allow the credit card company investigate.

When dealing with anyone you are not familiar with, eBay, internet purchases and companies not known, credit card payments can give you protection checks will not.

Please provide me with your phone numbers and I will make sure all of them are put on our Do Not Call List.

I am sorry that you have been receiving telemarketing calls from our company. Please provide me with all your phone numbers so we can add you to our Do Not Call List.
Reagrds
Dennis Mario

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This scam outfit has been harassing me for over a year on my RESIDENTIAL PHONE LINE with recorded solicitations at least once a week, often more, and sometimes even several times A DAY.

The message tries to get the listener to push a button to speak to someone, but it also says that by doing so you are accepting their offer. I'm glad they have an F rating, and I hope they get what's coming to them when enough people expose their scam and their bogus "preapproved $8000 credit line for your small business." LIARS.

Anyone who's reading this thread because they've had bad experiences with this company NEEDS TO SPEAK OUT. Contact your local BBB and make a complaint. Contact your Attorney General's office as well, and media consumer watchdogs. Crooks get away with their scams because good people fail to report them.

The icing on NSBA's rotten cake is that their website actually displays a logo for the FBAA, the so-called "Fair Business Association of America," another scam organization. The FBAA solicits businesses that have been exposed by the BBB for being cheats, scams, and losers, and offers to say that their company is actually reputable and trustworthy -- for a fee, of course.

It's rather touching, I suppose, one scammer promoting another.... *sniff*
The FBAA does serve one valid service, however: The list of affiliated members makes a great BEWARE: SCAMMERS! list.

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As I show that your have been refunded and taken care of in the middle of December. I am sorry that your refund was delayed but we have done our part to resolve this.
Regards,
Romy

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P-Clare, I agree with you 100% and I too hope other individuals speak out about NSBA scam.

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I am sorry that you have been recieving telemarketing calls from our company. Please provide me with all your phone numbers so we can add you to our Do Not Call List.
Reagrds
Dennis Mario

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No, you are NOT sorry that I have been receiving telemarketing calls from your company, or you wouldn't be calling me, would you? You're only sorry that I won't put up with it.

I requested that my numbers be removed many months ago, but the calls kept coming. I very recently emailed you personally with this information, and you replied [Monday, January 16, 2006 11:52 AM] that it will be added to your "Internal DNC list." I hope that this is so, because if I hear from you again, you will surely hear from me again as well, but not via email.

Again, I am truly sorry for the calls.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

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No, you are NOT sorry that I have been receiving telemarketing calls from your company, or you wouldn't be calling me, would you? You're only sorry that I won't put up with it.

I requested that my numbers be removed many months ago, but the calls kept coming. I very recently emailed you personally with this information, and you replied [Monday, January 16, 2006 11:52 AM] that it will be added to your "Internal DNC list." I hope that this is so, because if I hear from you again, you will surely hear from me again as well, but not via email.

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P. Clare, I strongly agree with your remarks to NSBA

I was Ripped off stolen from and cursed at. Yes when I question them, The customer service rep actuallly told me to F off. This is a BaDDDDDDDDDDDDD company please please stay away.

I am very sorry that that happened too. Everyone of our Customer Service Rep should treat everyone as professionals. Please provide me more information such as your account number so We can look more into this. Again I am sorry that that happened.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

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I was Ripped off stolen from and cursed at. Yes when I question them, The customer service rep actuallly told me to F off. This is a BaDDDDDDDDDDDDD company please please stay away.

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Attention all small business owners or individulas who are interested in establishing "Business Credit" donot become a member of NSBA located in California because National Small Business Alliance is a FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD. NSBA guarantees a credit limit of $8,000.00
Travel, Business Marketing, Business Credit, American Express, and Computers Hotel Rental etc. NSBA is a FRAUD because the company refuses to refund the membership fee of $98.00 and its a way to get your Bank Account information and begin taking money form your account.
Unfortnaley, I 've contacted NSBA several (over 40) times and there is never a supervisor or manager present and they never return any of my calls. Therefore, I come to conclusion that that there are several law suits and compliants filed on NSBA, but if there is a supervisor from National Small Business Alliance reading this FRAUD Alert. I would like to solute you for taking the opportunity to read my compliant about NSBA, but I would like to let you compnay know that NSBA seems to practice the 1st Admendment so I will make it my duty to practice the 5th Admendment by contacting the BBB, US Attorney General, ACLU and other organizations inreagards to these issues until I recieve a written explination. I will mail several letters a week stating that NSBA is FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD and nothing more.
If there are any Small Business owners reading this or S-Corporations or C-Corporations, LLC and desire Business Credit I would be delighted to let you know what I know to build Business Credit for free @ no charge. Please donot invest inot companies like NSBA and donot take my word. Research Research begining eith the BBB.
;) :p
CHAYO BRIGGS
[email protected]

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I just got scamed myself by the NSBA. I finally got through on the phone after 4 hours of trying and the lady was so rude. I feel very stupid and that I can not trust anyone anymore.
I am so tired of people using people this has to be stopped

Tim Selbach

First of all the NSBA is not a company to establishes credit or fixes bad credit. NSBA is a national association specifically geared to the needs of small businesses. We offer our members access to, and discounts on, products and services that are used in the course of conducting business. These benefits are specifically designed to help small businesses start, operate, manage, and grow their organizations at cost rates typically reserved for larger companies with greater buying power through independent benefit provider companies. Benefits include: travel, business and medical insurance, office products, computer equipment and software, furniture, wireless and long distance, electronic check recovery, merchant accounts, and over 100 additional benefits.
As a member of NSBA we're offering you the opportunity to join the thousands of members nationwide in reducing your day-to-day operating expenses immediately and gaining access to products and services at rates typically reserved for large companies.

I am sorry that you had so much trouble getting through to our customer service department. I do show that you did get through yesterday and have cancelled your membership. You will receive in the mail in the next few days your cancelation letter.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

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I just got scamed myself by the NSBA. I finally got through on the phone after 4 hours of trying and the lady was so rude. I feel very stupid and that I can not trust anyone anymore.
I am so tired of people using people this has to be stoped

Tim Selbach

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Timselbach
I did not close my Bank Account, but I sent a several letters to NSBA and the Better Business Bureau, Federal Trade Co. etc. demanding my refund. However, NSBA did not refund my money until about 3 months and NSBA never returned any of my telephone calls.

Thank you for your input. Mr. Selbach has been emailing me directly and has been taken care of. I am sory that your refund process took a little long than stated but you have been refuned.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

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Timselbach
I did not close my Bank Account, but I sent a several letters to NSBA and the Better Business Bureau, Federal Trade Co. etc. demanding my refund. However, NSBA didnot refund my money until about 3 months and NSBA never returned any of my telephone calls.

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This company's marketing via computer generated phone call announcements is SLEAZY to say the least, and then they tell me it will take 30 days to have my numbers removed. They are inconsiderate a**holes.

Our goal from the very beginning was to make sure we are in compliance with all government, DMA and each state's rules and regulations.

The National Small Business Alliance is a membership organization for small businesses with 10 employees or less. As such, we only solicit small businesses, not consumers. We obtain all our calling lists from some of the largest and predominant business-to-business lists houses in the country that state categorically that they rigorously bounce their lists against the national, state and regional Do Not Call Lists. In addition, we do maintain our own in-house list. In order for us to call anyone, there telephone number/s had to be listed as a business number at some point.

If a consumer requests a copy of our "Do Not Call" policy, we will send a copy via U.S. mail or electronic mail.

Consumers may request, by telephone or in writing, that our company stop calling them and place their name on a "Do Not Call" list. Although we may ask for your name, address and telephone number, we will accept your request even if you only provide your telephone number. You have a right to have calls stopped and to be put on our "Do Not Call" list even if you are still a customer.

When we receive your request, your telephone number is added to our "Do Not Call" list within 30 business days. In some cases it may take up to 30 business days for your telephone number to be removed from other company wide calling lists. Your request will stay on our list for at least 5 years. If you move, change your telephone number, or add telephone number, you must provide us with the new telephone number in order for us to prevent calls to that number. We will not share the information you provide with anyone except affiliated companies or subsidiaries without your prior written permission.

All employees that engage in outbound telephone solicitation are trained in this policy and made aware of these procedures before they are allowed to place calls to consumers. Managers, supervisors, or trainers review the policy with these employees weekly.

If the consumer notifies us that they have received a telephone call from us after they have already requested to be placed on our "Do Not Call" list, we will apologize for the intrusion and have a manager or supervisor investigate. The manager or supervisor will also personally confirm that the telephone number is on the "Do Not Call" list. Upon request, we will mail the consumer a confirmation that their telephone number is on the list.

The Direct Marketing Association (DMA) offers a free service to consumers called the "Telephone Preference Service" (TPS), which will typically reduce, but not eliminate the number of telemarketing calls received. Consumers may have their name added to the TPS at no charge by sending a written request to the DMA. Your written request must include your name, complete address, telephone number and signature, and should be sent to: DMA Telephone Preference Service; PO Box 9014; Farmingdale; NY 11735. The DMA states that the TPS is updated quarterly and it may take up to three months after your name is entered before you begin to see a reduction in calls. To learn more about this service, visit http://www.the-dma.org/consumers.

The methods and procedures in this "Do Not Call" policy are reviewed by CEO/President monthly.

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I am very sorry that that happened too. Everyone of our Customer Service Rep should treat everyone as professionals. Please provide me more information such as your account number so We can look more into this. Again I am sorry that that happened.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

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NSBA MM#13157653 NSBA MM Cancel # 13157653PLC041405

Have tried for months to get refunded without results. Spent hours on hold get the same response "This is an accounting problem" . Last Time Your Customer service rep swore at me and sent me back on hold.

DMARIO you r company is a scam, people have to go to the BBB to get their money back. We paid the 339.35. We sent our request for cancelation and full refund CERTIFIED mail within the 30 days. We called and called. Talked once to Romy who said she never received our request for cancellation. We told her we have verification it was delivered. She said she would refund our money within 30 days. Nothing. Emailing numerous times was sent back with, I will look into this. Nothing. I personally called your cell phone DMARIO. Yes, did some sleuthing and found it, You never returned my call. So today I will go the BBB route. I will get a refund. You are a scam. Please do not deal with this association.

I would like to help you and get this resolved. Canceling membership and send back your membership are 2 different processes. It seems like from what you are saying that Romy cancelled your membership and you sent back you membership packet. Please provide me with your member verification number so I will be able to better assist you.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

We tried to call your company as soon as we sent in our cancellation in writing along with returning the packet. We could not get through. When we finally did get through to Romy on 9/9/05 she gave us a cancellation number of 13593485MRJ090905 for a full refund of 339.35. She said it would be issued in the contractual 30 days. Several phone calls on hold for extreme amounts of time and many emails later. I still have not received any refund.

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We tried to call your company as soon as we sent in our cancellation in writing along with returning the packet. We could not get through. When we finally did get through to Romy on 9/9/05 she gave us a cancellation number of 13593485MRJ090905 for a full refund of 339.35. She said it would be issued in the contractual 30 days. Several phone calls on hold for extreme amounts of time and many emails later. I still have not recieved any refund.

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Thank you for providing me with you cancalation number. Looking further into this it seems that someone is using Romy name. It shows that you cancelled with a different rep than Romy by your cancelation number. Romy is the Customer Service manager and would follow through on all request. I am sorry that you have had such a hard time trying to get in contact with our company. As you may have notice we have upgraded our phone systems. Romy and I will get this resolve. She is going to forward all your information over to the processesing center and they will issue and send you check on Fridays check run. Again, I am sorry that your refund has been delayed.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

Sadly I have to add my name to those who have been ripped off by this company. I was promised a credit card for our church and it seemed like a good offer - but we received a travel and computer discount card. They then deducted $300 and for many months I have been trying to get a refund. Yes the famous "Romy" is looking into it, as she says. I made a compaint to the Fair Business Association but it seems like they are a scam too.

I received my refund on Monday, I made the comment here and Mario said he would send it out, Right after I made my comment here, I did an online complaint at the BBB. I am not sure what happened to make my refund come, if it was the BBB or the comment here. But I did receive a full refund. I do think this company was set up to "scam" people. Many businesses will sign up for this and not be too concerned with getting a refund because their time is more important than the 300.00. I think that is what the company had hoped for. Unfortunately for them, us small business owners depend on that 300.00 for things like rent and I guess that the company probably didn't expect so many refunds requested and became overwhelmed. I think they will refund anyone that is insistent on getting a refund but I think they are hoping people will get annoyed and just drop it. If you hunt them down, they don't want to be in blatant disobedience to the law and will refund your money. Just present you facts here and at the BBB and dennis mario will help you. He was always polite and got me my refund! Good luck!

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Sadly I have to add my name to those who have been ripped off by this company. I was promised a credit card for our church and it seemed like a good offer - but we received a travel and computer discount card. They then deducted $300 and for many months I have been trying to get a refund. Yes the famous "Romy" is looking into it, as she says. I made a compaint to the Fair Business Association but it seems like they are a scam too.

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Looking further in your membership it shows that Romy the Customer Service Manager has followed the proceduces and your refund is going on next check run which will be no later than 1-24-06. She has done everything to help you and is getting your refund processed. I am sorry that it has been delayed but Romy has nothing to do with that. You will be receiving a full refund of 339.35.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

Actually this is incorrect. Romy has engaged in delaying tactics, even claiming that she had never received my email when she replied to it (and I sent her proof of that). And the date should be Feb not Jan as you put in your response. Yes I did talk to Dennis Mario and yes, he was polite and sounded sincere. But please excuse me if the answers sounded a little too smooth - like these are standard words and the so-called sincerity is now a fine art. I have a message for the NSBA and Dennis - words are pretty worthless when the actions don't back them up. If you really are genuine prove it. Don't just defend yourself with words - make some changes. Tell your staff to stop lying and delaying and then acting all polite about it. My experience tells me that it all comes from the top and that what happens in a compay is no accident. When the complaints reduce and people stop being upset THEN we'll believe your sincerity. That's reasonable isn't it? Now I await my promised refund.

What's up everybody, I was also suckered by NSBA. I'm still so mad I can hardly see straight. I've made all the calls, on hold for 20-30 minutes. I cancelled as soon as I got my package. That was in November. My refund has been tied up in accounting. I just emailed a letter to the city counsel office of Cathedral City. I'm just wondering what can really be done about this scam. It would be worth my $100 to just bust them.

We would like try to help you get this resolved but we need more information such as your name or even you member verifcation number.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

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What's up everybody, I was also suckered by NSBA. I'm still so mad I can hardly see straight. I've made all the calls, on hold for 20-30 minutes. I cancelled as soon as I got my package. That was in November. My refund has been tied up in accounting. I just emailed a letter to the city counsel office of Cathedral City. I'm just wondering what can really be done about this scam. It would be worth my $100 to just bust them.

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Let's face it - everything about NSBA is a rort! They should be shut down before they rip more people off. They have it down to a fine art and I just love their "caring" manner when you call them. They obviously rely on most people just letting their money go down the sink - that's why most conmen like this guy get away with it. It is a pity that our current laws can't close down rip-off companies like this. And Mr. Mario - please do not reply with fake indignation - we can all see through what you are doing. Save your fake concern for another poor innocent person who cannot afford to lose what you have ripped off them. Hopefully one day a voice inside you will speak to you about what you are doing.

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We would like try to help you get this resolved but we need more information such as your name or even you member verifcation number.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

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Thanks for your reply Dennis. My name is Don Lue. I registered to NSBA under the name DLue Computer. My member number was 13861157. My cancellation confirmation number is 13861157ccw dated 11/21/05. My email is dluecomputer @comcast.net.

Thanks for your reply Dennis. My name is Don Lue. I registered to NSBA under the name of DLue Computer. My membership number was 13861157. My cancellation confirmation number is 13861157ccw dated 11/21/05. My email is [email protected].

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Thanks for your reply Dennis. My name is Don Lue. I registered to NSBA under the name DLue Computer. My member number was 13861157. My cancellation confirmation number is 13861157ccw dated 11/21/05. My email is dluecomputer @comcast.net.

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Thank you for the information. I am fowarding all you information over to the accounting department so they can process your refund. I do apologize for the delay of your refund.
Regards,
Dennis Mario

Dennis - Don't just let this go. The "accounting department" just means more time before they give you back your money. It's another ploy in their time-wasting game. Then they'll tell you it's in a future check run. Stay on them or they will just keep delaying. The good news is that those people who really keep on them do get their money back - eventually.