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Accident in company vehicle

My friend got in to accident in a company vehicle. It was his fault but no one was hurt and there was no alcohol or drugs in system. It was just a normal every day accident. My question is how can the company make him pay for the damages out his pocket. The company has fully covered insurance on all there vehicles. Is that even leagel

Need more info - the employer is refusing to turn the accident over to the insurance company OR the employer is asking your friend to pay the deductible?

What does the employment contract say?

And, yes, if the employer takes your friend to Court for the deductible, the employer will undoubtedly win.

I'm an accident investigator - what is a normal, every day accident?

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Need more info - the employer is refusing to turn the accident over to the insurance company OR the employer is asking your friend to pay the deductible?

What does the employment contract say?

And, yes, if the employer takes your friend to Court for the deductible, the employer will undoubtedly win.

I'm an accident investigator - what is a normal, every day accident?

My friend did not pay the deductible he had to the (full price of damages ) it was pay or loose your job and his boss made him sign a piece of paper saying he would pay. Also a normal accident means not (HIGH /DRUNK) while on your way to work in the morning.

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my friend did not pay the deductible he had to the (full price of damages ) it was pay or loose your job and his boss made him sign a piece of paper saying he would pay. also a normal accident means not (HIGH /DRUNK) while on your way to work in the morning.

Also my friend never went to court. His boss did not turn it in to insurance company and kept the money for his self. I assume that's what happened I don't know.

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also my friend never went to court. his boss did not turn it in to insurance company and kept the money for his self. i assume thats what happened i don't know.

Your friend should talk with the claims adjuster who handled the accident and also find out what an employee's responsibility is for damages when he is at fault in an accident with a company car.

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Your friend should talk with the claims adjuster who handled the accident and also find out what an employee's responsibility is for damages when he is at fault in an accident with a company car.

There was no claims ajuster who handled the accident it was closed case either you pay for all damages or loose your job the only person my friend talked to was his boss. What I'm trying to say nothing went on the books leagely that's my friends boss did what did and got away with it.

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there was no claims ajuster who handled the accident it was closed case either you pay for all damages or loose your job the only person my friend talked to was his boss. what im trying to say nothing went on the books leagely thats my friends boss did what did and got away with it.

Was the car repaired? You know for sure this is what happened?

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Was the car repaired? You know for sure this is what happened?

Yes I know for sure I used to work there. Yes but it was not for about a year after the accident the truck was finally fixed.

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yes i know for sure i used to work there. yes but it was not for about a year after the accident the truck was finally fixed.

Who paid for the repairs? How was the amount of damage determined? Is this a small company, and is the boss the owner?

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Who paid for the repairs? How was the amount of damage determined? Is this a small company, and is the boss the owner?

Boss is not the owner. My friend paid for the repairs total was $2200 dollars and the company is not small they are nation wide. Also this happened to more than 1 person.

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boss is not the owner. my friend payed for the repairs total was $2200 dollars and the company is not small they are nation wide. also this happened to more than 1 person.

Is there an HR department? What are the terms of employment with respect to accidents?

Did the same boss do this with other employees? If so, why hasn't the company noticed damaged vehicles and heard about this scam?

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Is there an HR department? What are the terms of employment with respect to accidents?

Did the same boss do this with other employees? If so, why hasn't the company noticed damaged vehicles and heard about this scam?

I'm not sure what the company policy is on accidents. The company knows about the accidents but they are in on it and let it happen.

A national company?? I wonder if you have your facts straight.

Your friend should find out the company policy regarding accidents when driving company vehicles.

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A national company????? I wonder if you have your facts straight.

Your friend should find out the company policy regarding accidents when driving company vehicles.

If I'm not mistaken I don't think that we were allowed to see the company policy. They would consider that a threat.

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if im not mistaken i don't think that we were allowed to see the company policy. they would consider that a threat.

A threat?

That makes no sense.

Most companies, especially a huge corporation, have a handbook for all employees stating company policy. Why would it be considered a threat to state company policy?

Something doesn't sound right here.

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if im not mistaken i don't think that we were allowed to see the company policy. they would consider that a threat.

Oh, c'mon! A nationwide company? Any company worth its salt doesn't operate like that. Does the company have a web site?

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A threat?

That makes no sense.

Most companies, especially a huge corporation, have a handbook for all employees stating company policy. Why would it be considered a threat to state company policy?

Something doesn't sound right here.

Let me put it this way a friend of I worked with at the same company got hurt on the job they (tried to make it look like it never happened) this very true it is no joke that's kind of people I used to work for.

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Oh, c'mon! A nationwide company? Any company worth its salt doesn't operate like that. Does the company have a web site?

Yes they have a web site but I will not release that information. No offence I don't know who you are. Believe what you want I don't care. I know what on there I worked there.

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let me put it this way a friend of i worked with at the same company got hurt on the job they (tried to make it look like it never happened) this very true it is no joke thats kind of people i used to work for.

Then why has no one ever gone to a lawyer about this?

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Then why has no one ever gone to a lawyer about this?

Many people have tried and failed. Its hard to prove a company wrong when you no actual evidence, documentation, or even a witness to what goes on exspeaily if they work there. I seen the boss fire a crew of guys one time because they went off to take lunch. No lie.

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many people have tried and failed. its hard to prove a company wrong when you no actual evidence, documentation, or even a witness to what goes on exspeaily if they work there. i seen the boss fire a crew of guys one time because they went off to take lunch. no lie.

I'm sorry, but I find it difficult to believe you. The workers are the witnesses. A lawyer would get a court order to see the company policy if the company would not give it to him voluntarily. If all this were true, it would be on the front page of the newspaper.

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I'm sorry, but I find it difficult to believe you. The workers are the witnesses. A lawyer would get a court order to see the company policy if the company would not give it to him voluntarily. If all this were true, it would be on the front page of the newspaper.

Like I said only if you worked there you would understand. The bigger the pocket the bigger the political power.

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like i said only if you worked there you would understand. the bigger the pocket the bigger the political power.

Are you sure you are not just a disgruntled worker? My husband and I have worked for several nation-wide companies who were always very upfront with company policy, etc. Companies don't have that much power over employees who, if something smells funny, will take off for lawyers quicker than you can wink.

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Are you sure you are not just a disgruntled worker? My husband and I have worked for several nation-wide companies who were always very upfront with company policy, etc. Companies don't have that much power over employees who, if something smells funny, will take off for lawyers quicker than you can wink.

I respect your opinion but have you ever worked for s scab corporation that does not believe in taking lunch will work 16, 18 , and sometimes 24hrs straight. Then make you drive from one job to the next with no sleep. While you are on the road they don't won't you to ask for time off they try to keep you on the road and out of state so you work 7 days a week month after month pulling in 90 to 100 hr pay checks sometimes even more. Every week.

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Originally Posted by snake187

i respect your opinion but have you ever worked for s scab corporation that does not believe in taking lunch will work 16, 18 , and sometimes 24hrs straight. then make you drive from one job to the next with no sleep. while you are on the road they don't wont you to ask for time off they try to keep you on the road and out of state so you work 7 days a week month after month pulling in 90 to 100 hr pay checks sometimes even more. every week.

Why would someone work for such a company? And not report them?

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Why would someone work for such a company? and not report them?

Who are you going to report it to. What labor board, osha. Same rules apply when in court who's the judge going to believe you or the cop. Why work there I don't know. It's the only way I know how to bread on table.

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who are you going to report it to. what labor board, osha. same rules apply when in court who's the judge going to believe you or the cop. why work there i don't know. its the only way i know how to bread on table.

Call an attorney who deals with labor questions, and get a free consultation. You don't go to court until the lawyer has amassed evidence for your case. What cop?? There are other companies to work for.

Does your friend have a copy of the waiver he signed? Did he pay that money by check? Those are two pieces of evidence.

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Call an attorney who deals with labor questions, and get a free consultation. You don't go to court until the lawyer has amassed evidence for your case. What cop??????? There are other companies to work for.

Does your friend have a copy of the waiver he signed? Did he pay that money by check? Those are two pieces of evidence.

They would never give a copy of waver to him like you said that's evidence no check was paid. They took it out of his paycheck each week. They cop and court was a figure of speech.

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they would never give a copy of waver to him like you said thats evidence no check was paid. they took it out of his paycheck each week. they cop and court was a figure of speech.

He has paycheck stubs showing larger amounts taken out for a period?

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He has paycheck stubs showing larger amounts taken out for a period of time?

12 dollars a week

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12 dollars a week

With no line item explanation?

Something is not right here - I'm an accident investigator. I'm assuming (and I won't know because OP refuses to post the circumstances, keeps quoting the "normal accident" language) that property damage of SOME kind was involved (car "friend" was in was damaged) - so who paid for that?

There's a cop; no, there's no cop, that's a figure of speech.

Not buying it.

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12 dollars a week

That's almost a year's worth of paychecks for $2200.

What does he make per hour?

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With no line item explanation?

You got that right. My friend finally did quit working there came back 6 months later worked 1 week brought home $700 dollars they had to fire him because of piss that he failed now when he came back that 1 week of work was striped from him because he still owed on the truck and the boss took his paycheck

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Something is not right here - I'm an accident investigator. I'm assuming (and I won't know because OP refuses to post the circumstances, keeps quoting the "normal accident" language) that property damage of SOME kind was involved (car "friend" was in was damaged) - so who paid for that?

There's a cop; no, there's no cop, that's a figure of speech.

Not buying it.

There's nothing to buy you didn't work there.

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That's almost a year's worth of paychecks for $2200.

What does he make per hour?

10.00 dollars per hr

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10.00 dollars per hr

You and your friend can't find a better job than that and work for a more reputable company?

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there's nothing to buy you didn't work there.

Is your "friend's" attitude anything like yours?

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You and your friend can't find a better job than that and work for a more reputable company?

There is?nt much work were we live.

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there is?nt much work were we live.

Where do you live? What's your education level and job experience?