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  • Mar 1, 2005, 02:19 PM
    penelopecat
    Popups from an unknown source
    I keep getting these popup ads that start with a URL that includes "documentsandsettings/localsettings/temp" and then changes to the ad's URL. I've noticed it also creates folders labeled DlfnTmp1, DlfnTmp2, etc. in the documentsandsettings/localsettings/temp folder. I can't figure out what's causing these popups. I've already uninstalled DeskAd Service using Control Panel -> Add & Remove, but the problem is still occurring. When I run Spybot, it says there's no spyware, and yet I keep getting these popups.

    When I run ad-aware, I get DealHelper. So I tried a search on the net for removal instructions, but none of the files that the instructions list to delete are actually on my computer.

    It seems to be only on IE, but occasionally they come up even when I'm using FireFox. Any idea what's causing this? It's been happening ever since I visited dictionary.com and not only were there a lot of popups blocked but it kept requesting access to download .exe files and eventually caused my computer to crash. (That got fixed when I used restore and restored back to the day before I visited dictionary.com.)
  • Mar 1, 2005, 03:27 PM
    thebriggsdude
    First off try the hijack this program, should be up in the thread at the top of this section, because first off, my friend just by clicking one simple link got almost 300 pieces of spyware and loads of trojans that would cause pop ups. Windows, what else could you expect :rolleyes:
  • Mar 1, 2005, 04:22 PM
    fredg
    Pop-ups
    Hi,
    Sounds like your computer is completely infected with spyware/advertising programs!
    Run your spyware programs in Safe Mode.
    Here is a listing of free programs, and how to use them. They should take care of the issue:

    If you think you already have Spyware/Advertising Ware in your computer, run these as follows:

    http://www.security-related.com/download2.htm
    Download: SpyBot Search & Destroy; 1.3

    AdAware at:
    http://www.lavasoftusa.com
    Download: AdAware_SE

    CWShredder at:
    http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html
    (CWShredder is intended only for removal of CoolWebSearch files; placed as spyware on the harddrive). It is not a "stand alone" scan, but needs to be run. Download the free version by clicking on "Download stand alone version of CW Shredder".

    All 3 of the above programs run better and much faster when run in SafeMode.

    To get into SafeMode:
    Re-boot the computer, and immediately after starting up, Press and hold down, F8, at top of keypad.
    When the options show on the screen, use the up and down arrow keys on the keyboard to select
    "Safe Mode".
    Press Enter

    It's best to run the AdAware scan first; 3 times; then re-boot.
    Then, run the AdAware scan again 3 times; then run the SpyBot. Then, run CWShredder.
    Re- Boot.
    Reason for running so many times:
    Some of these trojans' files can be deleted the first time; leaving some others; but on re-boot, they re-write the files that were deleted.
    Running multiple times deletes most of it the first
    Time.

    If you wish to have a great program, after you clean out Spyware/Advertising Ware:
    SpyWare Blaster 3.2
    Great, free, program that STOPS spyware, trojans, home page hijacks, etc, BEFORE they get into your computer. Check it out at CNET at link:

    http://www.download.com/SpywareBlast...ml?tag=lst-0-2

    I haven't had any spyware at all since installing the Spyware Blaster.

    Just for information:
    If you wish to add or subtract from an Experts' reputation, or show appreciation or discontent with
    An answer, click on the "balance scales" icon by the Experts' name. You can then choose what you wish.

    Best wishes,
    fredg
  • Mar 2, 2005, 05:23 PM
    penelopecat
    I'm on AOL, but I don't think that's the problem. I've been on that for years and never had trouble with popups until I went on dictionary.com one day and then all the popups started happening. Might be coincidence, but I don't think so.
  • Mar 2, 2005, 05:44 PM
    thebriggsdude
    AOL should have a virus scanner for you to use so no worries there, most likely adware and spyware. That's why never use IE to go to sites, always Firefox.
  • Mar 2, 2005, 05:48 PM
    penelopecat
    Aol
    Well, the AOL techies told me to go to kw: spyware and try theirs, but all I could find was a link to spybot. I think version 8.0 doesn't come with it, and I didn't like the new style of 9.0, which is why I stuck with 8.0.
  • Mar 2, 2005, 08:15 PM
    thebriggsdude
    Well if you can try some of those free spyware adware scanners
  • Mar 3, 2005, 06:26 AM
    fredg
    Deal Helper
    Hello again,
    Have you tried my suggestions for getting rid of Spyware yet?
    The Deal Helper is Advertising/Spyware, and the AdAware_SE, and SpyBot, coupled with CWShredder will get rid of it for you.

    Best wishes,
    fredg
  • Mar 3, 2005, 05:51 PM
    penelopecat
    Sorry about taking so long to respond. I needed to let the computer run a few days in order to see if your suggestion worked, see. :) Unfortunately I still get popups every once in a while. Just not as often as before. :( And yes, this was after I did everything you suggested.
  • Mar 3, 2005, 06:16 PM
    jimsmithjimsmith
    Hi,
    Another good set of tools:
    - hit Start/Run and type msconfig if it's an XP machine. You can download it for othe os's. It is a utility to see all the stuff that's going to run/is running. You can choose to start in "diagnostic startup" to get a clean boot too.

    - Startup Control Panel, but a young guy named Mike Lin, MIT student.
    http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

    This will show you what's running on your computer when you start up. Kind of an online tool to safely edit the registry. It allows you to uncheck items which will then not run upon reboot. A stripped down version of msconfig

    Hope that helps!
  • Mar 3, 2005, 06:20 PM
    penelopecat
    Tried that, but how do I know what to look for?
  • Mar 3, 2005, 09:13 PM
    jimsmithjimsmith
    I look at task manager, check the Processes that are running. If you want, post a list or a screenshot for review here. I look up suspicious ones and find out what they are. It can take a while but I think it's worth it in the long run, to know what each does - it would be nice to start posting a list of them here.

    Once you find the bad process, you can get it cleared. Just search for the process name and find out how to clear it (google it).

    Also, mention here which OS you use, windows xp/2000/etc. - good to know for troubleshooting...

    One more thing - there's a hosts file and an lmhosts file, check there too. Located somewhere around here:

    C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc
    (that's winxp)

    Open it (use notepad) and look for entries in it. All, or nearly all lines should be commented out with # symbols. There might be one or two at the end that are not commented, but certainly not any suspicious looking ones.
  • Mar 3, 2005, 09:47 PM
    thebriggsdude
    Good thinking, I can't really know unless I know which os either, but I do know that if you are getting popups in Firefox you either have a virus bringing them in or adware/spyware. Oh and plus Firefox is now 1.01 now, they had a serious update needed on count of a hole in the program, but they caught it before it happened :D unlike Microsoft waiting till it happens :rolleyes:
  • Mar 3, 2005, 09:51 PM
    penelopecat
    Msconfig
    How do I post a list without having to type out every single entry?

    I'm on XP, by the way.
  • Mar 3, 2005, 10:00 PM
    thebriggsdude
    Either do type it out or just post a pic of the task manager running with it totally open and showing all the tasks. Basically just hit the print screen button right on the right side of the backspace button and go to paint and click paste and cut and copy the task manager to show. Either that or type it.
  • Mar 3, 2005, 10:04 PM
    penelopecat
    Do you need Startup or Services?
  • Mar 3, 2005, 10:06 PM
    thebriggsdude
    No just task manager.
  • Mar 3, 2005, 10:09 PM
    penelopecat
    Oh, I was thinking of msconfig, which was the previous suggestion.
  • Mar 3, 2005, 10:11 PM
    thebriggsdude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jimsmithjimsmith
    I look at task manager, check the Processes that are running. If you want, post a list or a screenshot for review here. I look up suspicious ones and find out what they are. It can take a while but I think it's worth it in the long run, to know what each does - it would be nice to start posting a list of them here.

    Once you find the bad process, you can get it cleared. Just search for the process name and find out how to clear it (google it).

    Also, mention here which OS you use, windows xp/2000/etc. - good to know for troubleshooting...

    One more thing - there's a hosts file and an lmhosts file, check there too. located somewhere around here:

    C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc
    (that's winxp)

    Open it (use notepad) and look for entries in it. All, or nearly all lines should be commented out with # symbols. There might be one or two at the end that are not commented, but certainly not any suspicious looking ones.

    i look at task manger, check the Processes that are running that sort of thing :) gives an idea of what may be going on, but not all the time, some can hide in the registry, etc.
  • Mar 3, 2005, 10:15 PM
    penelopecat
    Task Manager
    I'm just going to list the Image Names...

    Firefox.exe
    Iexplore.exe
    Taskmgr.exe
    CIDAEMON.EXE
    Aolwbspd.exe
    Mcagent.exe
    DSentry.exe
    Directcd.exe
    Alg.exe
    Explorer.exe
    McShield.exe
    MpfAgent.exe
    Mcvsshld.exe
    Realsched.exe
    Wanmpsvc.exe
    AOL.exe
    Aoltray.exe
    Nvsvc32.exe
    MpfService.exe
    Mdm.exe
    MpfTray.exe
    Mcvsrte.exe
    Cisvc.exe
    Wsxsvc.exe
    Spoolsv.exe
    Support.exe
    Svchost.exe
    NotifyAlert.exe
    ViewMgr.exe
    Ctfmon.exe
    Lsass.exe
    Services.exe
    Winlogon.exe
    Csrss.exe
    Smss.exe
    McVSEscn.exe
    Waol.exe
    Ad-Aware.exe
    System
    System Idle Process
  • Mar 3, 2005, 10:25 PM
    thebriggsdude
    Now I don't know about AOL, but CIDAEMON.EXE I don't know if that is a AOL thing or not, I have not seen a virus or anything that uses that either. Hmmmm I need to talk to my buddy about this more, he has had something similar to this happen and I forgot what it was called he got rid of and solved the problem
  • Mar 3, 2005, 10:29 PM
    penelopecat
    Cidaemon.exe
    According to this site it's part of Windows...

    http://www.iamnotageek.com/a/cidaemon.exe.php
  • Mar 3, 2005, 10:34 PM
    thebriggsdude
    Well that's good, haven't seen it on many though. Hmmm he ain't home, well I will be asking about it tomorrow though, it was caused while he was surfing in IE and clicked the wrong thing and no scanner or anything picked it up and it was a registry fix he did.
  • Mar 3, 2005, 10:54 PM
    jimsmithjimsmith
    This one looks suspicious:

    Wsxsvc.exe

    Here is how to remove it:
    http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/p...x?id=453076775

    Do you remember installing the 'delfin media viewer?'

    More on this:
    http://www.processlibrary.com/direct...xsvc/index.php
    (use that site to check others too)

    Very interesting to check out the company that created this:
    http://www.delfinproject.com/
    And click on Ad Spec's. It gives details on the crap they send out...

    I did not finish looking at the entire list, you might try the processlibrary link above and search others. It might be worth the effort. Then publish it for others...

    Good luck!
  • Mar 3, 2005, 11:07 PM
    thebriggsdude
    You know that rings a bell wsxsvc.exe
  • Mar 3, 2005, 11:49 PM
    penelopecat
    Delfin
    On that one web site that says to unregister/remove all those files and DLLs... none of them are present on my computer except for the license.txt, which is present for a whole bunch of stuff (like Adobe Acrobat and so on). According to my computer delfin isn't on there anywhere.

    And no, I didn't download the viewer... at least not knowingly. It's possible when I went to dictionary.com it went and just installed itself into my machine. I noticed icons for a porn site and a couple of other things that suddenly appeared after I went to dictionary.com, so I wouldn't be surprised if delfin did that, too.
  • Mar 3, 2005, 11:53 PM
    penelopecat
    Wsxsvc.exe
    I did a search for info on that and that's part of the delfin viewer itself. So, how do I remove that without totally killing my computer?
  • Mar 4, 2005, 07:25 AM
    fredg
    Pop-ups
    Hi,
    Another thing you can look at is what programs are starting up when you turn on or boot up the computer. All of these are listed under a StartUp tab.
    Go to Start/Run , then type in MSCONFIG , then click on OK.
    In that window, click on the StartUp tab.
    Look over to the left hand side to see all the programs starting up when you boot up. You can scroll down to see the remaining ones.

    You can Left click on any checkmark (to uncheck it) by something you don't recognize. For example, one of the Spyware programs shows "Load32".

    After unchecking an item, click on Apply then OK, and re-boot.
    If you have disabled something you need, you can always go back and re-check it.
    Best wishes,
    fredg
  • Mar 4, 2005, 05:03 PM
    penelopecat
    fredg, tried that and we'll see if it works.
  • Mar 5, 2005, 02:03 PM
    penelopecat
    Thanks
    Looks like turning it off in msconfig worked. Thanks, all!
  • Mar 5, 2005, 07:04 PM
    walt17
    I didn't notice it mentioned, so are you using a pop up blocker? Adware and virus protection won't stop all popups.
  • Mar 5, 2005, 09:34 PM
    thebriggsdude
    It was mentioned that she used IE and Firefox, don't know about IE or not if she has the Google toolbar, but Firefox will block them.
  • Mar 6, 2005, 02:27 PM
    penelopecat
    Yes, I have a popup blocker on both Firefox and IE. I know all popups can't be blocked, but at least the random ones that come up even when I don't have any browser open have stopped, not to mention the ones that were on IE windows, but I was only on Firefox.
  • Mar 7, 2005, 06:02 AM
    fredg
    Deal Helper
    Hi,
    Here is a link about Deal Helper.

    http://forum.us.dell.com/supportforu...ssage.id=36114

    It is a very long process to get rid of it.

    You might try downloading/installing Microsoft's Anti-Spyware program, available from Windows Update. or http://www.microsoft.com

    Best of luck,
    fredg
  • Mar 7, 2005, 05:31 PM
    penelopecat
    Deal helper
    Actually, apparently it's not deal helper, because that stopped showing up on adaware just a day or two after I posted the problem.
  • Mar 20, 2005, 01:25 AM
    cremedies
    You may also try the 7 day free trial of "Adware Away". This program solves a variety of spyware issues with a single program rather than using several others.
    You can just Google the name to find the download site.

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