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    #21

    Oct 4, 2009, 05:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    adam,
    I don't follow "Him" and my life and those around me who follow the same lifestyle are just fine and happy. It's not worshipping a god or not worshipping a god that makes someone mentally unstable or makes people divorce. How do you explain the high divorce rate then?
    It's not your "life" I'd be worried about. How is eternity going to be for you?
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    #22

    Oct 4, 2009, 05:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by itsamor View Post
    Send him a message for me and tell him to make my life stop sucking :]
    i'll pray just for him.
    GOD never gives us more than we can handle. Are you still alive? Then make the most of what you have.

    I hope your life gets better.
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    #23

    Oct 4, 2009, 05:23 AM
    I believe in having GOD in your marriage. I'm getting the kids ready for church now. I pray to GOD every day. I thank HIM for all the things HE'S done for me, and the joy in my life. I've been truly blessed. I am a recovering alcoholic/addict, and GOD has given me a second chance. I was on the brink of overdosing due to the extreme pain I have been experiencing. But I'm still here, and it's because of GOD, and a great wife. And I know that in my heart. So no matter what some people here say. Their comments are what makes us a little stronger, and makes us more grateful to have HIM in our lives.
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    #24

    Oct 4, 2009, 05:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by adam7gur View Post
    I say that all kinds of curses that mankind carries is simply because mankind abondened God!
    But the people that divorced had not abandoned god.
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    #25

    Oct 4, 2009, 05:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jmjoseph View Post
    It's not your "life" I'd be worried about. How is eternity going to be for you?
    Not concerned about "eternity". I'm concerned about being a good person now.
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    #26

    Oct 4, 2009, 05:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Not concerned about "eternity". I'm concerned about being a good person now.
    But you can have it both ways.
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    #27

    Oct 4, 2009, 05:44 AM
    I guess I choose not to live in fear. Seems to be working for me and my family. :)
    Have a great day!
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    #28

    Oct 4, 2009, 06:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I guess I choose not to live in fear. Seems to be working for me and my family. :)
    Have a great day!
    I too, choose to not live in fear. I live in complete confidence. We all do what works for us. Peace to you and yours.
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    #29

    Oct 4, 2009, 11:52 AM

    Fear is only found outside the rest offered in Christ Jesus, The Begotten Son of God, The Word of God

    Hebrew 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
    Hebrew 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it].


    Matthew 13:9 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

    Matthew 13:22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
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    #30

    Oct 4, 2009, 12:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    How do you think about what Jesus said about marriage applies to marriages performed without God such as by a Justice of The Peace, Judge, or ship's captain?
    We have no way of knowing the hearts of others. Nor can we judge them. And Scripture did say that God joined them together. This could take place outside a structured building without a priest. God is the powerful and Lord of all. All souls belong to God.

    Matthew 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
    Mark 10:9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

    Quote Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    Keep in mind that in Jesus' day and land marriages were performed by priests.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
    Disagree, they were registered.. (AND Joseph himself never went to register until after the tax law was enforced)

    Keep in mind in those days women were betroth. What TP did they enter, What house was there to enter. What was told of Adam and Eve in OT?
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    #31

    Oct 4, 2009, 09:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    But the people that divorced had not abandoned god.
    There are rules to divorce.If people were divorced following that specific rules then OK,but most do not!Thus curse comes in.
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    #32

    Oct 4, 2009, 09:39 PM
    itsamor,
    The problems in your life are the result of what you chose to do or not do AND the same of others who were or are around you PLUS consequenses of this world.
    In some cases you can't do much about it but in others you can.
    Your attitude about God speaks volumes about your life.
    Most, but not all, people who believe in and worship God are much happier. That even includes people who live in counties where life to many is miserable.
    God gives us all His promise of a life after this one where there is no pain and suffering and no tears.
    All we need to do is believe, have faith, and do our best to live as He suggests through Jesus Christ our Lord and savior.
    It is also why God centered marriages are generally happier and long lasting compared to those that are not.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    #33

    Oct 4, 2009, 10:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    It is also why God centered marriages are generally happier and long lasting compared to those that are not.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
    My brother!
    Think that everything written in the Bible starts with a wedding in Eden and ends with a wedding in Heaven.God's eternal purpose is a wedding,the wedding of His Son and The Bride.
    That's why God created us, to give His begotten Son a Bride in His image and in His likeness.
    Think of Adam.He named every living creature on earth but as he did that he realized that there is no one like him.So God out of Adam creates Eve and they in spite of being two person are no longer two but one!
    Now, think of God's begotten Son,The Word who made everything,and everything was made for Him according to Scripture,watching the whole creation until sixth day and realizing that there is no one like Him.
    And in that day He creates us in His image and in His likeness.Why?Because He wants a Bride just like Him. And through our faith in Him we are like Him.We are no longer two,but one!
    A marriage is something that God has established and what God's eternal purpose is.He is the founder of marriage, so marriage outside God cannot be!
    And do not think that marriage is simply two persons living for the rest of their lives together.That is not what God means by marriage, it goes much further than that!
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    #34

    Oct 4, 2009, 10:26 PM
    Brother adam,
    That is beautiful.
    I hope everyone here reads that.
    Fred
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    #35

    Oct 4, 2009, 10:34 PM
    Dear All!

    I just hope and pray that those continuing on this thread realize that the thread was started with the intention of those answering from a Christian or Godly perspective.

    That is what you intended, wasn't it, Fred?

    If I'm incorrect, then you have my apology.

    Thanks!
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    #36

    Oct 4, 2009, 10:35 PM

    The credit goes to God through Lance Lambert and his teaching The eternal purpose of God.
    You can find his book and there are much more!
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    #37

    Oct 4, 2009, 11:34 PM
    Clough,
    Yes, You are correct.
    I am not on;y interested in what those who believe in God are thinking about marriages without God in them but also, hopefully, what their belief is in regard to why and how it ois important for God to be a part of each marriage.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    #38

    Oct 4, 2009, 11:47 PM
    Hi, Arcura!

    So, in recapitulation here, those that have a belief in God and/or a Christian belief in God are those after which you seek concerning people providing answers/responses on this thread.

    Would that be correct?

    I'm just seeking clarification here and not trying to debate anything. But, I'm sure that you already realize that. I just wanted to make things clear, here...

    Thanks!
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    #39

    Oct 5, 2009, 12:06 AM
    Clough,
    You are correct.
    It does appear though that there are SOME who believe in God but think Godless marriages are OK or even desirable.
    Hummmmm...
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    #40

    Oct 5, 2009, 05:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    Clough,
    You are correct.
    It does appear though that there are SOME who believe in God but think Godless marriages are OK or even desirable.
    Hummmmm....
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
    What makes them Godless marriages .. I have asked you this before.

    I believe God is always present for all

    Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

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