[arcura]

galveston.
LOL
Point well made.
Fred

[Leviston]

Authors and artists t in the Church's history directly opposed the round Earth. After his conversion to Christianity, Lactantius (245–325) became a trenchant critic of all pagan philosophy. In Book III of The Divine Institutes[39] he ridicules the notion that there could be inhabitants of the antipodes "whose footsteps are higher than their heads". After presenting some arguments which he claims advocates for a spherical heaven and earth had advanced to support their views, he writes:

Cosmas Indicopleustes' world picture - flat earth in a Tabernacle.

"But if you inquire from those who defend these marvellous fictions, why all things do not fall into that lower part of the heaven, they reply that such is the nature of things, that heavy bodies are borne to the middle, and that they are all joined together towards the middle, as we see spokes in a wheel; but that the bodies which are light, as mist, smoke, and fire, are borne away from the middle, so as to seek the heaven. I am at a loss what to say respecting those who, when they have once erred, consistently persevere in their folly, and defend one vain thing by another;

Diodorus of Tarsus (d. 394) may have argued for a flat Earth based on scriptures; however, Diodorus' opinion on the matter is known to us only by a criticism of it by Photius.[40] Severian, Bishop of Gabala (d. 408), wrote: "The earth is flat and the sun does not pass under it in the night, but travels through the northern parts as if hidden by a wall".[41] The Egyptian monk Cosmas Indicopleustes (547) in his Topographia Christiana, where the Covenant Ark was meant to represent the whole universe, argued on theological grounds that the Earth was flat, a parallelogram enclosed by four oceans.

Source=Wikepedia

Science and Christianity seem to go hand in hand,may we also talk about evolution or is that a myth too.

[galveston]

The church did actually believe for the longest time that the earth was flat,

True, but the Bible does not say it is flat.

[galveston]

Science and Christianity seem to go hand in hand,may we also talk about evolution or is that a myth too.

That would be another thread. Let's stay with the subject of contradictions.

[arcura]

Leviston, So a flat EARTH for a time was so believed.
So what?
It is now mostly know to be a sphere.
The ancients had their beliefs from ussuptions not scient which they had little of compared to the last few centuries.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[Leviston]

Leviston, So a flat EARTH for a time was so believed.
So what?
It is now mostly know to be a sphere.
The ancients had their beliefs from ussuptions not scient which they had little of compared to the last few centuries.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Nice try Fred but God must have know that the earth was not flat

Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)

Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)

Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)

Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)

Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)

[arcura]

Leviston,
We still use the term 4 corner of the earth or world referring often to the four winds or four directions.
Of course God knew the world was round, He Made it all all things both seen an unseen.
But the folks way back then did not know that.
The people who wrote the bible wrote from their knowledge, culture, and time.
It is a simple as that.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[galveston]

Nice try Fred but God must have know that the earth was not flat

Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)

Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)

Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)

Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)

Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)

All these expressions are still in use today. We have no difficuly in understanding what we or someone else means when we hear or read them. Those who misunderstood them thought that the Bible said things that it did not say.

Job 26:7
7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
(KJV)

This is from the oldest book in the Bible, and it is scientifically correct. Here's another one:

Isa 40:22
22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
(KJV)

A circle is round, right? The Bible gets it right again, and long before misguided theologians taught a flat Earth.

[arcura]

galveston
Agreed!!
Fred

[Fr_Chuck]

Having to delete too many posts that are basically anti christian, not allowed on the Christianity thread, closing this one.