Hi, My question is in regards to Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. I am a practicing christian (But haven't attended church for several years). In a fit of anger I Blasphemed against the Holy spirit by sayiny ''F#!& Off Holy Spirit. I have read many articles since then and they all point to one thing, That I cannot be forgiven for this! Am I eternally lost to hell?
This is a serious question, I am very distraught over this. Please help me with honest biblically accurate answers. Much appreciated.
Basquiat.

"Ask and you shall recieve. Knock and the door shall be opened to you." God offers forgiveness freely- to theifs, to adulturers (King David ring a bell?), to murderers, etc. Yes, even to those that say "F you Holy Spirit!" Sin is sin in God's eyes, he says that having hatred in your heart is murder. Saying f off to the holy spirit makes you just as guilty as a murderer. Me saying "holy sh!t!" today makes me just as guilty as a murderer- and all sin can be forgiven by Jesus. You need to be sincere and ASK Jesus for forgivness. He's standing right there and knows what you want (you want forgivness I'm guessing), he's just trying to get you to ask for it; he's right there asking: "what do you want?" So... tell him!

Blaspheming comes from the heart and not from the mouth only.What if I never say anything against the Holy Spirit but live and think as a blasphemer?
Go to the Father through the blood of the Son and the Holy Spirit will be honored to welcome you!
May God strengthen you!

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Originally Posted by basquiat

Hi, My question is in regards to Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. I am a practicing christian (But haven't attended church for several years). In a fit of anger I Blasphemed against the Holy spirit by sayiny ''F#!& Off Holy Spirit. I have read many articles since then and they all point to one thing, That I cannot be forgiven for this! Am I eternally lost to hell?
This is a serious question, I am very distraught over this. please help me with honest biblically accurate answers. Much appreciated.
Basquiat.

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Yes it is a serious question, why would you even contemplate doing such a thing. Like you I know there is only Scripture that tells us about such things It is my understanding that blaspheming the Holy Spirit entails attributing to the Holy Spirit the works of Satan however profaning the Holy Spirit as you have done certainly crosses a line

Hi,
I don't know the answer to this. I was just surfing the different titles and saw your post. I can imagine how terrible you feel. Pray and see what the Holy Spirit reveals to you.

The God I know is loving and forgiving. I know the scripture you are talking about. What you did was serious. When you pray to God, ask Him to search your heart. Do you think that if you knew you were off the hook here, that you would do this again? Were you drunk? What was going on? Present your case to Him. Again, sorry I can not give you a better answer but I believe He will reveal it to you.

All I can offer is this song for you. I hope this helps.

Click here: Listen To Our Hearts - posted by Becky Vang (byvang) - tangle.com

"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him" {John6:44] and
"All that the Father gives Me , and whoever comes to Me I will never drive away"
[John 6:37 If you had committed an unpardonable sin, then the Father would not have drawn you to repentance and in faith in Christ. We know that Jesus will not cast out any
one who comes to Him. He would have cast you out if you were guilty of an unpardonable sin. You cannot experence sorrow, regret, fear, worry, or panic if the Holy Spirit is in you.
When we are truly sorry for our sin and desire to be forgiven by God, we are repenting.
Anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit, they cannot repent and believe. .

Maggie 3

You know, you might consider talking to a couple of different Pastors and tell them everything that was going on when you made your comment. Explain your state of mind and any pertinent information. Were drugs and alcohol involved. Give all the facts. Ask them to pray with you and go over different scriptures with them. Maybe they can shed some light on this situation. We don't know your whole story here.

If I were you, I would go to different churches and speak with the Pastors and see what they have to say.

Good luck to you!

There is nothing at this time in Christianity that can not be forgiven. So if you wish to repent, do so, Christ knows your heart and awaits your words

RE: Fr_Chuck,

Dear Fr_Chuck,
I sincerely wish that was the case, but the word of God clearly states "Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness", Mark 3:28.
So I am trying to determine exactly what is the correct representation of 'Blasphemy' in the context of the scriptures it is mentioned. As with any scripture, there are many different views and interpretations put on it within the wider Christian community, encompassing the different denominations. I am looking for some hope that I am not eternally lost, but I am looking for biblically accurate answers as that is all I have to depend on. Opinions are a kind gesture but I need more that.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ALL THE POSTS AND ENCOURAGEMENT YOU ARE ALL GIVING ME, as I am very distraught at the thought off the loss of my faith because of my mistake. Thank you all. Basquiat.

Can you give some details? A brief summary? What was your state of mind? What was happening that made you say that?

I have a question. When the Bible mentions that this sin of blasphemy is not forgiven, is this in the Old Testament or the New Testament? If it is in the Old Testament, it is before Christ's coming. Christ came to forgive all our sins.

I am trying to help here but don't have all the answers. Can anyone help out with this?

Dear Summer7

Thank you for your posts and the link to the song, ''Listen To Our Hearts'' I listened to it and loved it.
Re: Your previous post; Brief summary etc.

I am a practicing christian but nolonger attend church, As I was once very involved in ministry and doing an internship programme. I was working with along leadership in this particular denomination, I became very disolusioned and hurt when I was treated badly by leadership, I also found some corrupt practises being done by leadership. I left the internship programme and they told me it was Gods will that I remain there and if I did'nt do what they said I would be rebelling against God. This made things worse as I felt they were using my eagerness to serve God as a means to control me. I eventually became very depressed and ill, Things have been very difficult to say the least. I was eventually shunned by them and lost most of my friends in the church. I became very angry and in a fit of rage I blamed God (as people commonly do) That is when I said; ''F#@K You Holy Spirit.

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You know, from what you have told me, I can only think that God would forgive you! The way you are describing this church you were involved with, does not seem to me the way I would imagine Jesus leading a church. I have read the Bible some and most of what you describe does not seem to be the way God would want it. Also, you became ill and depressed so you were not in your usual frame of mind. You were sick. I can see why you would be so upset and would cry out as you did in such a frustrating situation!

The God I know is a merciful, loving, forgiving God. From reading your story, I can imagine that God is happy that you love Him so much and are wanting to be right with Him. There was a lot going on with your ministry. You were disillusioned and perhaps things were not presented to you in an accurate manner during your ministry. There was a lot of human fault and error. You served God with your whole heart. Our loving God saw all that happened to you. Come on... you say you studied the Word. Don't you remember reading all those passages about God's love and mercy?

He knows your story better than anyone. He was there when you wholeheartedly served Him and when you were mistreated by people who were not handling "His" affairs and His flock properly. Sweetheart, I believe Jesus will forgive you! He's waiting with open arms for you, I am sure.

I am not an expert here but I would imagine that those people spoken of in the Bible who are blasphemers, are probably wicked , evil angry people who are well aware what they are saying. You were not in your perfect frame of mind. You were depressed. God knows this. You have provided many important details here to consider. Ask God to forgive you and trust that He does...

Had to delete since it posted a duplicate response.

basquiat,
First of all what is blasphemy?
I believe that what you said is very much disrespectful but not true blasphemy.
You need to pray to Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit for forgiveness and mean it with all you heart and soul.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Dear Summer7

Thank you for your response. You have been very gracious and encouraging.
Kindest Regards,
Basquiat

How are you feeling right now? Do you believe that God will forgive you?

Dear Summer7,
I am feeling very encouraged. However I find it difficult to get past the scriptures... even though it is not my intent to reject God or the Holy Spirit and have been incredibly repentant about what I said, I am still unsure as whether or not saying that to the Holy Spirit can be forgiven (even I said in a fit of anger and not really meant it, as I was only venting my feelings and frustration). But the bottom line is the scriptures clearly say this is the one sin that can not be forgiven.
Perhaps God will look upon the intent of my heart... well at least I am hoping He will.
The Problem with this situation there is no loop hole (or grace) as it is the only thing in the bible that specifies there is no forgiveness for this sin.
I have been praying God would show me the answer...

I have an idea!! Have an intimate one-on-one with God. Talk with Him from your heart. Explain everything to Him and repent with your whole heart and soul. Ask God for His forgiveness. After all this, ask "Him" to reveal something to you that will show you His forgiveness. Kind of like a sign. I'm always amazed at how God shows me He's taking care of things. There will be something really cool that happens that can only come from God.

Don't stress anymore. Try this tip. God will answer. You will know in your heart if you are right with Him. This is between you and Him.

It's easy to try and pin our own perceptions of the world onto God. We have a bad experience in church and as you had mentioned earlier, we immediately blame God. Remember, all those people you were involved with are not God. They are imperfect human beings just like you and me. Only God is perfect and He is love and forgiving. What was the entire reason for Christ's coming? Forgiveness...

Give God a little more credit. Please try the tip I suggested. Then come back and tell us what God reveals to you. :)

I pray God's peace over you...

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basquiat,
First of all what is blasphemy?
I believe that what you said is very much disrespectful but not true blasphemy.
You need to pray to Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit for forgiveness and mean it with all you heart and soul.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

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If I were you, I would recall my state of mind at the time. You said you were not well at the time. Do you honestly believe that our merciful God would not take that into account? God is fair!

I know you are concerned about the scripture. It's the Word of God after all. You know very well that when we read scripture, we'll read one verse we like but we really need to read the entire passage to get the full meaning of the verse. I think it's kind of like that with your situation. You made your comment. But we need to look at the entire picture of what took place leading up to that. The important piece here is that you were not in your right frame of mind. As the post by Arcura reads, "First of all what is blasphemy? I believe that what you said is very much disrespectful but not true blasphemy."

Boy, if anyone is going to give you a fair trial, it's Jesus! Look at the raw deal He got and He still forgave us. Think about it.

Read carfully the full account of where Jesus warned against blaspheming the Holy Ghost.

The jews had said that what Jesus did was by the power of Satan. By doing this, they cut themselves off completely from the Holy Ghost, who is the ONLY one who can draw us to Christ.

Thus the sin is unpardonable, the sinner having severed any connection with God.

The very fact that you are troubled enough to post here looking for hope is proof that God has not turned His back on you, and apparently, you have not turned your back on Him.

Hope that this helps you.

Hi Summer7 & Galveston,

Thanks for your answers, what you said very helpful Galveston, Helped to define the true meaning of the scripture. And Summer7, I have been very encouraged by your posts, even approached a church Sunday night (did'nt actually go in though). But I think that's progress since I haven't stepped foot inside a church for several years.
Kindest Regards, Basquiat :-)

That is such great news!! I am so happy you are encouraged. You know, you are a lot wiser now so I'm sure your experience in church will be better and richer. Remember, it's filled with those "imperfect human beings", like you and me. But we have the hope of being with our "perfect Lord" someday.

It was great you shared your situation here with us. See, you have lots of friends who care about you!! God bless you

Here I want to share my favorite song with you...

YouTube - O HOLY NIGHT (with LYRICS) - version of CHARICE

summer7 asked a very good question.
I look forward to seeing the answer to it.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

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summer7 asked a very good question.
I look forward to seeing the answer to it.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

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Hi there Fred,
Which question are you referring too? I will be attending Bible study this Sunday to learn more. I just remember bits and pieces.

I haven't been to church in a long time either. I have really enjoyed having Jesus in my life. I look back on the "old days" and I just can't believe how far I've come! It truly is amazing!! The joy and peace alone are so worth it.

This church I found kind of caters to teens and twenty something's so I am looking forward to all the cool stuff there is to do. Plenty of fun activities and of course opportunities to serve and make a difference.

Well Fred and Basquiat... It's been great sharing this post with you! I'm off now. I want to learn more!

Hey man listen. You are fine trust me, and trust God. Just recently I thought I had done the same. But God has revealed to me that "the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" is way more than cursing the Holy Spirit. First of all the word "Blasphemy" in the greek means, "injurious speaking" which means to hinder through speech. This has NOTHING to do with anger towards God. Also in Matthew 12 it says "whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit" it has become clear that "speaks against" means to speak as an enemy of. NOT TO CURSE.
The pharisees blasphemed the Spirit, because they knew that Jesus was God and that He was casting out demons by the power of the Holy Spirit, and yet they straight up lied saying, "He is casting out demons by the prince of demons." in order to steer people away from Christ and bring glory to themselves. They were essentially choosing to take side with satan! Jesus later says that the pharisees were children of satan himself. This kind of sin will never be repented of or even worried about. The Bible says that repentance is a gift from God. It also says in Romans 8:1 that "There is now no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus." Furthermore, Romans 8:38-39 says, "38 For I am convinced that neither DEATH NOR LIFE, neither angels nor DEMONS, neither the PRESENT NOR FUTURE, nor ANY POWERS, 39neither height nor depth, nor ANYTHING ELSE IN ALL CREATION, will be able to separate us from the love of God THAT IS IN CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD. and in conclusion John 10: 27-30 says, "27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; NO ONE CAN SNATCH THEM OUT OF MY HAND. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; NO ONE CAN SNATCH THEM OUT OF MY FATHERS HAND. 30 I and the Father are one."

So, please don't let satan torment you anymore. He will try to twist the scripture I have shown you, but trust in Christ.

I will pray for you. Dear Lord, I pray for my brother/sister in Christ. That they would place their trust in you. Do not let satan torment them any long Lord, but let them be released from their torment and condemnation, and show them that you love them more than the sun. In Jesus Christ name I pray... amen.

basquiat,
Of the three persons in God, the Holy Spirit is the guide and inspirer.
He has been referred to as the giver of life.
One of the main places to experience God in His trinity is in one of the many houses, castles, or cathedrals build by his followers out of love for him and other followers.
Those many churches are for the lovers of God in which to worship Him and converse with others.
It is also one place where we can harvest the fruit others provide and to provide our fruit for others to harvest.
So do go to Church.
Much of the grace of God is available there.
Best wishes for your progress to unity with God.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Dear dlo2010, Thank you for your scriptures and encouragement, This means a great deal to me. I appreciate the support & prayers.

Dear Arcura, Thank you for sharing, I am on the journey of making steps towards returning to a local church, but this is difficult as I am very cautious/wary of becoming involved with a church again because of my last (very negative) experience .

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Dear dlo2010, Thankyou for your scriptures and encouragement, This means a great deal to me. I appreciate the support & prayers.

Dear Arcura, Thankyou for sharing, I am on the journey of making steps towards returning to a local church, but this is difficult as I am very cautious/wary of becoming involved with a church again because of my last (very negative) experience .

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Using the Bible as your guide, you should "shop" for a church. Choose one that is the closest to the one described in the Book of Acts, and also consider what Jesus said to the 7 churches. (Rev. chapters 1,2, &3.)

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Using the Bible as your guide, you should "shop" for a church. Choose one that is the closest to the one described in the Book of Acts, and also consider what Jesus said to the 7 churches. (Rev. chapters 1,2, &3.)

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You are going to be working fairly hard to find one of those

basquiat,
Good luck to you in your spiritual efforts and may the Holy Spirit guide you though any storms you may encounter on your quest for Church.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

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Originally Posted by basquiat

Dear dlo2010, Thankyou for your scriptures and encouragement, This means a great deal to me. I appreciate the support & prayers.

Dear Arcura, Thankyou for sharing, I am on the journey of making steps towards returning to a local church, but this is difficult as I am very cautious/wary of becoming involved with a church again because of my last (very negative) experience .

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Hi Sweety,
I'm so glad you are giving church another try. Sometimes it takes awhile to find the right fit. I can imagine how you must feel going back. You know, I remember a message I heard from Joyce Meyer. She said that, "sometimes God just wants us to hang on the vine." She mentioned how sometimes people in church are in such a frenzy to serve and help. Often times these people could use a little help and nurturing themselves. There's nothing wrong with going to church and just checking it out and enjoying yourself. No need to stress... just ask the Holy Spirit where you need to be. He might just want you hanging on the vine for awhile getting fed and nurtured. God is peace... just be at peace and know that He is with you to guide you.

Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.
John 14:26

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Summer,
That's an interesting saying, "hang on the vine".
What hangs on the vine is the fruit.
As I understand it we are the vine and Jesus is the branches.
The vine is to produce the fruit for others to harvest.
So you quoting that made me think again about that.
A different thought came along with that and it is that we should not produce sour grapes.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

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summer,
That's an interesting saying, "hang on the vine".
What hangs on the vine is the fruit.
As I understand it we are the vine and Jesus is the branches.
The vine is to produce the fruit for others to harvest.
So you quoting that made me think again about that.
A different thought came along with that and it is that we should not produce sour grapes.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

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I like that. So true about the sour grapes! :)

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You are going to be working fairly hard to find one of those

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If you refer to a church meeting the description seen in the Book of Acts, then, true, they are not fouind on every corner, but they DO exist. Don't rule any out on the basis of numbers, whether small or large.

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If you refer to a church meeting the description seen in the Book of Acts, then, true, they are not fouind on every corner, but they DO exist. Don't rule any out on the basis of numbers, whether small or large.

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Yes Churches where property is held in common and there is distribution to each according to their need, where the leadership withdraw to pray and not prey is very rare. It is even rare to find Churches where there is body ministry and each person is regarded as a competent minister, where there are miracles.

Hello basquiat,

I see that you have been encouraged by the responses you have received. That is wonderful.

I don't know if you are still here, but God willing, perhaps my response to your question will help someone else.

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Hi, My question is in regards to Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. I am a practicing christian (But haven't attended church for several years). In a fit of anger I Blasphemed against the Holy spirit by sayiny ''F#!& Off Holy Spirit. I have read many articles since then and they all point to one thing, That I cannot be forgiven for this! Am I eternally lost to hell?
This is a serious question, I am very distraught over this. please help me with honest biblically accurate answers. Much appreciated.
Basquiat.

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As I understand, you are really asking two questions:

1. Does your insulting of the Holy Spirit, in a fit of anger, qualify as the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit which Jesus said would not be forgiven?

2. Can you be forgiven for insulting the Holy Spirit thus?

First a little background

I understand that there are six Sins or Blasphemies of the Holy Spirit. What are they?

1. despair,
2. presumption,
3. impenitence or a fixed determination not to repent,
4. obstinacy,
5 resisting the known truth, or calling that which is holy, unholy
6. and envy

Examples from Scripture are

despair:
Matthew 27 3Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
4Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that. 5And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

You see, Judas, having already repented, should have thrown himself upon God's mercy. But instead, he despaired and hung himself.

Presumption
Matthew 7:20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Note how these folks PRESUMED they were saved. But Christ is our Judge. Therefore Scripture also says:
1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

Impenitence
Exodus 8:15
But when Pharaoh saw that there was respite, he hardened his heart, and hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.

Pharaoh would not repent of his ways.

Obstinacy,

Obstinacy and impenitence are essentially the same thing. The slightest difference is that obstinacy is the refusal to move from one's sinful position:
Romans 2
5But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

resisting the known truth, calling that which is holy, unholy

Mark 3:28-30 (King James Version)

28Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation. 30Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

The Jews refused to acknowledge the truth. That Jesus had healed by the power of the Holy Spirit.

envy

Envy of the Holy Spirit is not the same as envy of one's neighbor. It is trying to gainsay, or justify oneself. Contradicting the Word of God with the word of man.

Acts 13
45But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming. 46Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

So, to answer your question:

1. Does your insulting of the Holy Spirit, in a fit of anger, qualify as the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit which Jesus said would not be forgiven?

So, where does your sin fall in these categories?

It doesn't seem to. As I understand your statement, it reminds me of fellows with which I work. One of them, hearing me preach against their sinful ways said to me, "My friend, I know you are right. And I should change, but I am having too much fun."

This man, if he remains in his sinful ways all his life, will commit the sin of "final impenitence" #3 above.

If he never asks God for forgiveness, he won't receive it.

At the time that you made the insult, you wanted no part of the Holy Spirit, for whatever reason. But now you have repented of that sin.

2. Can you be forgiven for insulting the Holy Spirit thus?

At this point in your life, you have come close to despairing of God's mercy, that is sin #1 above. But that sin is only unpardonable if you don't give God the opportunity to pardon you by asking His forgiveness.

Anyway, this is how I understand the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I hope that it helps.

Sincerely,

De Maria

De Maria,
That was very good but...
Where does yje blasphemy of calling the Holy Spirit something that he is not; something that is evil fit into your explanation?
Peace and kindness,
Fred

stan200,
Very good point.
But I do wonder if someone calls the Holy Spirit and evil name if that is not an unpardonable sin.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

the holy script says that to sin against the holy spirit is the one and only unforgivable sin. If that is true and correct you are.if you don't believe holy scripture,what does it matter