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Why Are we told to be Watchful ? And might we be counted accountable? Will you fall asleep in Christ?
Luke 21:35-36 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
I'd LOVE to answer it but it will fall on deaf ears. Jesus didn't say that to YOU.. he said that to the JEWS! That my friend was NOT written to the Church. That is written for the Jews and specifically the ones that shall be on the earth during the tribulation period.
The difference in what we believe seems to always reflect what is taught as religion by man of the church, and what is reality of Flesh in" THE WORD"Quote:
Originally Posted by classyT
I believe all that is written was given so we could learn from example. So open eyes and ears to hear, was spoken of throughout the scriptures. Note: 1 Corinthians 10:1-11
As for whether it applies to us? Yes all that is written applies. Understand how one might falls asleep is important.
I Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
So please feel free to voice your answer to the questions.
Snd,
First I didn't say that what is written didn't apply to us. It wasn't written to us... it is for the Nation of Israel.. sorry learn to read your Bible. I want to know what is going to happen and the signs of the end times... Jesus spoke about them. It is for me but not written to me. Why is that concept so foreign to you? Jesus simply is not talking to the whole wide world there. He is speaking to the JEWS. I don't care how you slice it. Now, can the whole wide world pick the Bible up and read it. OH YES.It is what he is telling the 12 disciples is going to happen and what the nation of Israel can expect. When the Apostle paul writes to Husbands... who is he talking to the wives? NO! He is talking to the husbands.. does that mean it isn't for the wives to know and read? NO, it just is instructions for the husband.
Concerning those which sleep. That is simply The Apostle Paul saying those who have died in Christ. ( course I'm sure that answer will be WRONG! In your twisted version)
And fyi... I don't understand your taught as religion by MAN. WHAT? No man taught this... Jesus simply is not talking to the church in the gospels. He came to the Nation of Israel and he is speaking and dealing with them. Hey, you don't have to be a scholar to understand this. You just have to rightly divde with word. You don't and therefore you are constantly mixing law with grace and THAT is the difference between us.
Did you note 1 Corinthians 10:1-11 which are words written that speak of all that is written concerning them? It was done as an example for us. God said he did not want us ignorant of this. All these condescending remarks to try and mock my belief in scripture is not necessary. You either agree or don't agree.. And both of us can discern our determined right or wrong without placement of stumblingstone on the other's belief. I happen to apply all that is written as reality. To every word that is written is an example as to what will come.Quote:
Originally Posted by classyT
Well from what has been told in scripture, we died in Christ when we are baptized. Which then allows us to rise in resurrection as Christ did. (Romans 6:4)Quote:
Originally Posted by classyT
Your discernment of my belief of law and grace is your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by classyT
My opinion is that the grace of God is Jesus, and also grace is God's love. Noted of course, that love was given to us in Christ. (Romans 5:1-2 Romans 5:9 Romans 5:15)
The law is the lamp of Christ's light. We walk in that light and not in darkness. (2 Sa 22:29 Psalma 119:105 Proverbs 6:23)
Also note that faith without law is void (Romans 3:31 James 2:20)
Back to the question who is asleep? It would be those who continue to watch that the thief doesn't break in. Staying ready for the return of Christ. The servant of God who understands the signs, will not be deceived by satan. The scripture examples Christ at one time treated as the thief. (Mark14:48) But the journey ahead will be different. And sleep was an the example shown in his disciples weakness. Note: Mark 14:38 Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Matthew 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Matthew 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Matthew 24:46 Blessed [is] that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing
The Book of Mark also included the warnings in similar matter
Mark 13:33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
So you may disagree, Yet there is so much more within what is written to see with open eyes and ears. I watch for Christ, and what each word can hold as the bitter and sweetness written in His glory.
I'm just trying to explain in the simplest way I know how to.how you should read the Bible so that you can rightly divide it and have a better understanding of it. And fyi.. your eyes and ears are sooo closed here. You must understand.. I love the Lord Jesus, I love his Word... ALL of IT! I don't pick as you imply. Not ever!
Back to the question... You would be wrong. He is speaking of those who have died in christ a physical death.. not spiritual.
Hey look on the bright side... at least we both think the Lord Jesus is God, he died and rose on the third day. So we have more in common than many people. :)
classyT,
Jesus taught he followers (mostly Jews) what He wanted them to know and what He wanted them to teach to the world. He told them that.
What Jesus taught by word and deed were for the world to know not Just the Jews.
The bible tells us that fact.
Peace and kindness.
Fred
sndbay... I agree with you, that we should be watching. I'm not sure that people understand what that means, though. Like, should they be looking up to the sky, or what?
What I think it means, is to be listening intently to god, and reading his word, attempting to repent from sin, and beginning to understand god's will in our lives.
If we're in touch with god's will, through his spirit in us, we can have a sense of direction, and of impending movement. We can better sense the signs that might show before his prophecy happens.
Regarding bible interpretation, just as you, I see trends and patterns in what is written, that come together and make a spiritual picture for me to see and follow. We can also learn from the mistakes and lessons of the past. I look for the mind of god between the lines.
We don't exactly know who they are that have fallen "asleep in Christ"... because we don't know the heart of each of those who have died.
The warnings to be watchful are directed to all Christians so that we don't get weary and snooze on the job which God has given us while still on earth.
Looking at all the warning passages, there are dangers listed in the Bible which tell us what to look out for:
Matt 26:41
41 "Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak."
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Matt 24:49-51
50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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Luke 21:34-36
34 "Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. 35 For it will come upon all those who live on the face of the whole earth. 36 Be always on the watch , and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man."
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Phil 3:2-4
2 Watch out for those dogs, those men who do evil, those mutilators of the flesh. 3 For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh— 4 though I myself have reasons for such confidence.
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2 John 7-9
7 Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8 Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. 9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
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Redergade,
Right you are.
When you think about it the prayer of Saint Teresa of Avila fits here about not being weighed down with cares of this world and not being ready when Jesus come again.
It is...
Never worry. Never fear. All things are passing..
Only God matters.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcura)
sndbay,
It is my hope and prayer that I fall asleep in Christ.
At my age of 75 and a sick man with diabetes the end of this moral life is nearer than that of many others.
I have worked to leave this world a better place than before I was born and I have been a life long Christian growing in that faith over the years, but never as good a one as I hope and worked to me.
Thank God for His infinite and perfect lpve and mercy.
Peace and kindness,
Fred (arcura)
You sound like paul:
Phl 1:20 according to my earnest expectation and hope, that in nothing shall I be put to shame, but [that] with all boldness, as always, [so] now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether by life, or by death.
Phl 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
Phl 1:22 But if to live in the flesh, --[if] this shall bring fruit from my work, then what I shall choose I know not.
Phl 1:23 But I am in a strait betwixt the two, having the desire to depart and be with Christ; for it is very far better:
Phl 1:24 yet to abide in the flesh is more needful for your sake.
cogs,
Thanks for the compliment.
Would that I could emulate the saints that have passed on to glory.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
arcura, you're still abiding here, so that's better for us than paul. You, as well as us, can benefit from wisdom and grace of god through you.
Couldn't agree with you more. However when he is talking to the twelve in Luke ( the scripture that Snd quoted... he is speaking to the nation of Israel and what they can expect during the tribulation period. Will the whole world be affected? You bet... but those verses are for Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
Remember alway faith brings us through everything. Power in Christ name. These days will not be unlike the attempts to deceive Eve in the beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
We are told everything, and should listen/ears and read/eyes all that is written. We are servants for God and believe in His grace/love/Christ.
Because understand Fred that scripture says as a thief in the night/satan will come.
THE Lords Day comes as fast as lighting, and as HIS brightness. Because the stars, and sun will not show light, and the mood as blood. We will not need any light other then Christ, so stay in His light.
You will have no fear of satan, when you believe in Christ. I want you to realize that it is also written not to doubt or say this time will not come. Or that anyone does not have to be a watchful servant.
Do Not! Matthew 24:48-49 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite [his] fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;24:50-51 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth
Yes for signslike the sun and stars but there are many written warning to help us. The Lords Day the sun and stars fall from the sky and give no light. Thats because Christ comes as the Brightest Light and like lighting. (written in scripture)Quote:
Originally Posted by cogs
Note: Matthew 24:29-30 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Understand that we are servants to His word. God loves us and has offered us HIs Son (body and blood) which equals forgiveness and The Word. We eat of both, and believe in both. His Will be done! Yet as servant God tells us, we are put to watch our house (family) so that satan(as the thief) can not deceive any in to worshipping him and steal our gift from God.Quote:
Originally Posted by cogs
So true, my mind seems to never stops thinking of THE WORD throughout my day. Each day end, I thank God for what comes to the mind in thought of scripture. It is a prayer answered to the request of God's Will, that would allow wisdom and guidance. Just yesterday, I read of HIS WORDS of three times being towards the fullfill of what is written. Where does that apply? It is like putting a treasure hunt together, because there is more depth to each verse and word then what we may allow in our minds.Quote:
Originally Posted by cogs
I sometimes wake in the middle of night to find by reading scripture the answer to what my mind found no rest in thinking. Praise the Holy Spirit for His part in comfort..
Thank you for those scripture pointing to being a servant and watchfull to THE WORD They confirmed how we must believe in scripture as the Flesh of Christ as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by revdrgade
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Originally Posted by revdrgade
This is alittle difficult to follow when quoting between scripture,as this is concern the servant that does not hear and goes about telling others they do not have to worry concerning all that Christ says directed related to THE LORD DAYS. KJV
Do Not is the message! Matthew 24:48-49 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
Matthew 24:50-51 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
2 John 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. JKVQuote:
Originally Posted by revdrgade
This does mean that we have deceivers present with us on earth. And they do not believe in the flesh of Christ. This disbelief can be in the bible, and also disbelief of Christ being the son of God put on earth, and that the bible itself is the flesh of Christ,that which we eat by taking in to our mind and soul "Choice".
2 John 8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. KJV
Note it say to look to yourself (meaning to discern the truth) so that you may have what God will give in eternity.
Very good warning of Good and Bad that results, and why we must Watch as servants.
sndbay,
Thanks for that.
I am watchful and I pray the Lord's Prayer this way "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done of earth as is is in heaven please make it so soon"
Peace and kindness,
Fred
What Christ did for us wasn't easy.. But did He question God? NO!!!
Do we walk in Christ? Do we pick up the cross and think it will be easy? No !!!
The evil of this world is obvious, and it rises everyday to more and more liberal thinking. Laws were made to protect and guides us. Or why have we laws?
Throughout the scriptures we are told to be watchful and ready. And don't believe at the last minute you can supply yourself with the oil in that lamp.
Matthew 25:3-4 They that [were] foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
It becomes to late for the foolish.
Matthew 25:8-10 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
THE LORDS DAY coming with His angels:
Matthew25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
Matthew 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats:
sndbay,
You are right, there will come a day when it will be to late for many.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
There tends to be some, who feel these messages written are not for all.
I view that to be a deceptive thought when, "THE WORD" tells us it is unto All.
Perhaps they do not see THE WORD as the flesh of Christ with us today?
In my heart and mind, the flesh and blood of Christ paid for us all.
Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
Mark 13:36 Lest coming suddenly He find you sleeping.
Mark 13:33-34 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. [For the Son of man is] as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
Because Christ is the authority and we are the servants, commanded by Chirst to watch.
sndbay,
Christ gave us several commands and directions to follow.
I try to do follow them.
They are some of the works of being a Christian.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
I know you do Fred, everyone should try.. But also everyone grows in their effects of trying and through experiences. The greatest is Christ and His path for us. Christ alone is the answer for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
Quoted thread: The snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. It's up to us to watch for that which would cause us to follow something other then Christ.
sndbay,
I follow God The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, all three as the bible tells us to.
Each of those three are equal to each other and should be treated as such.
When I pray to God I pray to all three.
Some times I pray to Just one of them such as to the Holy Spirit for inspiration.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
We are off thread with this Fred, but I understand what you are saying. Our Father's Word holds so much divine intervention by three in one. My prayer is done as Christ has told us. And as Christ, Himself did.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
Do you recall (Mark 14:44 And He cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.) Christ left His disciples to go pray three different times. (divine identity, a sign for us as final) As is the Three in One.
Numbers in scripture hold SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE.
The number three shows the final step to refer on many final occurances.( The divine intervention of identity.)
3 commissions found it's final step in deliverance of Israel (Matt 28:19-20);
3 suppers brought the final step of what is known as last supper (John 13:2);
3 days in the resurrection of Christ known as The Third Day. ( Jews did not accept evidence of any man's death, known as the final day of life on earth, before identifying each remained as is for three days.)
From all these occurances, we can easily understand that when we read of three, the third will be the final in which we will identify in evidence of divine intervention. All three however are three in the same. (3 days, 3 supper, 3 commission)
The mind should be triggered at this point in seeing Our Father, The Son, and Holy Ghost as three and all in the same.. "ONE"
Think of each time we have read of three.. For within the significance of that number three, God has intended for us to find evidence to identify His divine intervention..
sndbay ,
Thanks for that
Fred
Thank God for that! For the awareness of each out of the three, is as important as the united to "ONE"Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
Because without one + one + one... we do not have Three.
The divine intervention of identity.= THREE
Col 2:2-3 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
Col 2:4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.
Col 2:5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.
sndbay ,
Yes, thank God for that.
Fred
Who Does Not Fall Asleep
Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.
Daniel 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
The firmament is heaven: Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
sndbay ,
Thanks for that.
Fred
Watch... don't be asleep
Daniel 11:20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes [in] the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
Daniel 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
Daniel 11:22-23 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant. And after the league [made] with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
Daniel 11:24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do [that] which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: [yea], and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
Daniel11:25 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do [that] which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: [yea], and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
Daniel 11:26 Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.
Daniel 11:27 And both these kings' hearts [shall be] to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end [shall be] at the time appointed.
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Originally Posted by sndbay
Luke 21 6 These things which you see, the days will come in which there shall not be left a stone upon a stone that shall not be thrown down. 7 And they asked him, saying: Master, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when they shall begin to come to pass? 8 Who said: Take heed you be not seduced; for many will come in my name, saying, I am he; and the time is at hand: go ye not therefore after them. 9 And when you shall hear of wars and seditions, be not terrified: these things must first come to pass; but the end is not yet presently. 10 Then he said to them: Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
11 And there shall be great earthquakes in divers places, and pestilences, and famines, and terrors from heaven; and there shall be great signs. 12 But before all these things, they will lay their hands upon you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and into prisons, dragging you before kings and governors, for my name's sake. 13 And it shall happen unto you for a testimony. 14 Lay it up therefore into your hearts, not to meditate before how you shall answer: 15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to resist and gainsay.
16 And you shall be betrayed by your parents and brethren, and kinsmen and friends; and some of you they will put to death. 17 And you shall be hated by all men for my name's sake. 18 But a hair of your head shall not perish. 19 In your patience you shall possess your souls. 20 And when you shall see Jerusalem compassed about with an army; then know that the desolation thereof is at hand.
21 Then let those who are in Judea, flee to the mountains; and those who are in the midst thereof, depart out: and those who are in the countries, not enter into it. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things may be fulfilled, that are written. 23 But woe to them that are with child, and give suck in those days; for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword; and shall be led away captives into all nations; and Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles; till the times of the nations be fulfilled. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea and of the waves;
26 Men withering away for fear, and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved; 27 And then they shall see the Son of man coming in a cloud, with great power and majesty. 28 But when these things begin to come to pass, look up, and lift up your heads, because your redemption is at hand. 29 And he spoke to them in a similitude. See the fig tree, and all the trees: 30 When they now shoot forth their fruit, you know that summer is nigh;
31 So you also, when you shall see these things come to pass, know that the kingdom of God is at hand. 32 Amen, I say to you, this generation shall not pass away, till all things be fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest perhaps your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkenness, and the cares of this life, and that day come upon you suddenly. 35 For as a snare shall it come upon all that sit upon the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye, therefore, praying at all times, that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that are to come, and to stand before the Son of man.
This was a premonition of the destruction of Jerusalem in 77ad.
6 These things which you see, the days will come in which there shall not be left a stone upon a stone that shall not be thrown down.
It is also a warning of the endtimes for all of us:
26 Men withering away for fear, and expectation of what shall come upon the whole world. For the powers of heaven shall be moved; 27 And then they shall see the Son of man coming in a cloud, with great power and majesty.
35 For as a snare shall it come upon all that sit upon the face of the whole earth.
But it is also a warning to be prepared for death in all generations. Lest the Son of Man come for your soul and you be unprepared.
Sincerely,
De Maria
De Maria,
Very Good.
Thanks,
Fred
Threadening Against Enemies.. The Lord's Day events and consequencesQuote:
Originally Posted by De Maria
What Will Be..
Zechariah 14:1Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
14:3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Events and Consequences
Zechariah 14:4-5And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. And ye shall flee [to] the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Christ coming
Zechariah 14:6-7-8 And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] the light shall not be clear, nor dark:But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, [that] at evening time it shall be light. And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
note: living water (Ezek 47)
Christ Will Rule
(The Lord's Day Isaish 2:11-12)=(1000 years 2 Peter 3:8)
Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
note:(Revelation 11:15)
Events and Consequences
Zechariah 14:10-11All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and [from] the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses. And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
sndbay
Very interesting, isn't it.
Fred
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Fred I disagree with DeMaria saying... [was as she has shown in her quote] This scripture is what will be when Christ returns. AndZech 14 calls forth the truth of each refer: of this same occurance to take place. Luke 21:5 talks of the temple garnish today with gifts and goodly stones.. This warning is not as it was, yet it is to come.. Because today individual put their love in what they see or can touch. They find favor outside of the truth, and Truth is that Christ is the temple.Quote:
Luke 21 6 These things which you see, the days will come in which there shall not be left a stone upon a stone that shall not be thrown down. 7 And they asked him, saying: Master, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign when they shall begin to come to pass?
This was a premonition of the destruction of Jerusalem in 77ad.
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Luke 21:5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned (meaning garnished) with goodly stones and gifts, he said, 6 [As for these things ]which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Christ will return to destory all that is significant to anyone other then what His significance is in Truth. We are not to treasure items nor are we to treasure anyone above Our Father. Christ, Himself was humbled to wash His disciples feet as a servant. We as servants to God exhault no favorite position in ourselves, we are all sinners.. Christ will destroy what satan will bring unto us, as it is written and we are fore told how anti-christ will come, and stand where he should not ... Revelation 13:11-18
sndbay
Thanks for your thots on that.
I still agree with De Maria.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
Evident by witness of more then one book.. Follow who you wish, but Christ's testimony is what should be followed. Respectfully known...
Matthew 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? And what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
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Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
sndbay,
The destruction of the temple took place long ago.
So how can one stand in the holy place today?
Peace and kindness,
Fred
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