If there is no god why is it, and if there is a god who is he?
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If there is no god why is it, and if there is a god who is he?
If you want a definition of God from a secular point of view, consider this:
God is everything that is, ever has been, ever will be; everything that has ever been done or not done, thought of or not thought of, created and uncreated, all galaxies and all that is in it and beyond: The sum of all of this is your Maker. Hence, you are a part of everything just as much as everything is a part of you.
XenoSapien
If God is everything that has been, ever will be; and all the like. Does it mean god is a 50% satan?https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images/icons/icon11.gif
From many points of view God is the creator of the heavens & the earth. From other's God is some fictional character who people made thousands of years ago.
My opinion is that God is our heavenly father and that he created everything. God gave life to Adam & gave ribs to Eve so that she would have life as well. God makes the world go round. And for those who say "why would God allow people to become alcoholics?" or something like that then answer me this: Why would you drink so much in the first place? Everything God says is bad for us is bad and everything that He says is good for us is good. But enough of my rambling on about my faith and stuff... hope I kind of gave some insight.:)
God is who you want him to be... creator... fictional... whatever your faith allows you to believe.
To answer Frethinka, no, God is not 50% Satan.
Do you want the christian answer or are you looking for an answer from anyone? Since you posted in the christian forum you are going to get the christian answer unless you state otherwise.
Shyqrnezs to honestly answer your question, it would be the symbol of isis, if you super impose the letters you would know what I mean.
Canada sweetie, you said good and evil, will be separated, one day, really now , are you serious... ha ha ha... you make me laugh... give me a break, For over 2000 years, can you tell me when? Or your answer is unknown.
Michealb You can give freethinka, your christian answer, and from someone else I would be much obliged
Canada sweetie, does jesus really exists?
Canada sweetie, I am still waiting for your answer.
Freethinka,
Canada sweetie is talking about the rapture Rapture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It is what many christians believe you posted in the christian forums, you should expect answers like that.
When I speak for myself, yes, Jesus is real. But I'm not trying to shove religion down your throat, just stating what I think and what you might want to know.
Canada sweetie , I am only presuming, you've probably have your proof near by, sorry for being so presumptuous. I hope you accept my apology.
Michealb, do you mean, rapture where jesus will be coming down, out of a cloud?? Is it supernatural, and when is it going to be, do you know?
I don't have a christian answer, since I'm not a christian. I'm a member of the most hated line of thinking in America I am an atheist. So no evidence, no god. I see the christian god as just one of the many gods that man has come up with to answer questions that he has been unable to answer and may never be able to answer. Though religion is a source of comfort and guidance to many in the world and I don't want that to go away it seems many people need that. So if your brand of religion is providing you with that, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. If your religion is not giving you that maybe you should shop around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freethinka
I accept your apology of course and thank you:)
Canada sweetie is darkness bad? Why every day has its night. And as day like night you live in it, why? Christians claim they only live in the light, unless I am wrong. All of us go through the same cycle.
There is a God and if there wasn't, what's the point of living?Quote:
If there is no god why is it
God is God. He is unique, nothing can be compared to Him and His reality is far beyond what we mere humans can understand, define or express. He is the Creator, He is holy, He is just, He is wisdom, He is power, He is love. He created the world with natural laws and order but He did not create evil or sin - he provided the options necessary to allow for human freedom, and freedom is necessary to be able choose to have a relationship with God. And if a relationship isn't by choice then it's not much of a relationship, is it?Quote:
and if there is a god who is he?
The only thing I know about it is in the wiki article, but there are some religious people on the board that should be able to give you more info on it. If you ask nicely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freethinka
Freethinka... go read a Bible... you'll see what I mean. Read Revelations and you'll get what I was saying but y'know, if you don't believe me that's fine. But DO NOT mock my beliefs.
Any Christian that claims he only lives in the light is more than likely a liar, or at the least deceived. We're told to believe in the light, to abide in the light and to walk in the light - and that light is Jesus, "the light of the world." But we're still human and still sinners - we make mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freethinka
I never saw that question... but speechlesstx is right. The light is more so metaphoric then anything. Of course there is that evil works under the cover of darkness which is why we are meant to sleep during the timeof darkness AKA night. That's from a religious point of view anyway.
God is very real, I can't believe that anyone who looks at a sun set or a sun rise, who looks at the ocean from a beach, or flowers in a field, can not see God very easy.
For God there is only "light" which is the good and the pure love.
As mentioned in the bible, it is not day and night, for that is merely movement of the heavens to show the great creation of God's power.
Evil in its pure since is just that.
God is not a part of Satan; Satan is a part of God.
XenoSapien
Fr_Chuck: Help me out with what I think is a song: 'For those who doubt the existence of God, look at the mountains around you'.
XenoSapien
Gee, how about improving the world for future generations, enjoying your time here, making a name for yourself, leaving a legacy, raising your children to be good people... There are many ways to enjoy life without the belief of god. I mean, believe in god all you want, but don't go around saying that people who DON'T have no reason to be alive. That's just cruel - and possibly evil.Quote:
There is a God and if there wasn't, what's the point of living?
To OP: It all depends on your religion. Some people see god in everything (see Fr-Chuck's reply) some people credit nature and the earth for those things. Miracles? Some say divine, others say "lucky guy". You either have faith or you don't.
I don't understand that argument. Myself and most of my friends don't worship a god yet we seem to live our lives wonderfully.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Mountains are formed by plate tectonics:Quote:
Originally Posted by XenoSapien
GeoDetectives, Plate Tectonics, mountain building
To be quite honest, at least for me, I don't think I could survive without God "out in the world" and I really don't want to. But that is just me.
Allheart I respect that because it is your opinion and it only makes a claim about yourself. YOU don't want to live in a world without god. That's fine. If you start going around indicating people who don't believe in god have no reason to be alive, however, that's a very, very different thing.
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Originally Posted by jillianleab
Oh my God (sorry)... no Jill. Not at all. Meaning, I would ever think that about those who don't believe. Heck no. No way and never.
And what I meant was, I just feel if I leave it up to me, I fall so short in life, but when I rely on what I have been taught, and God's love, for me, it makes life so much more enjoyable and easier to endure the harder times in life.
But I do not judge ever nor push my beleifs on anyone else nor would I ever think my way is the right way.
Actually, Allheart, I was referring to speech's post which indicated he thinks there is no reason to live if you don't believe in god! :) I took your post as intended - that YOU feel YOU cannot live without god. I didn't get the impression you were pushing your beliefs or being judgemental.
PS: I'm not offended by the word god (or amen, hallelujah, and so on. Just as you probably aren't offended by the words "chocolate" and "textbook"), so no need to apologize.
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Originally Posted by jillianleab
Chocalate - No... textbook YUP
Just kiddn. :)
I didn't think you got that impression, but I was just typing away and making sure that no one would think that I would push my thoughts on them.
Does believe mean be-lie-ve or be lie 've, or someone lied to you, curious... explain it.
Is there any truth, when you have to believe something, seeing that belief is such a fickle word...
GAH! I knew you were one of those book-burning fundies! :)Quote:
Chocalate - No... textbook YUP
Freethinka you need a dictionary:
believe - Definitions from Dictionary.com
It is not always reliable to break a word down into smaller parts to find its meaning. After all, in your example, what's a "ve"? Linguistics don't work that way...
jillianleab, I know my breaking the word, believe into 3 mystical pieces, Freethinka double odd nine, was going to offend someone, trust me; it was intentional, I only did it to gather some attention. As to why, if believe is such a cohesive word why is lie, instead of true, is intentionally placed smack dab in the middle of a word that so many people, would give their all and all for. I personally suspect something has got to be wrong for the usage of the word. How many more persons would follow if the word betrueth was used instead of believe. I know your remarks are like betrueth isn't even a word. My suggestion only, it is a more honest word than belie or believe. Or the word believe is proper in its context when applied to mythology. Freethinka do not believe in zorastrainism, voodoo or the like. I hope I've made a valid point, If not say.https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
If believe is the Goddess of all lies. Why is it, there are so many followers, who are entranced or bewitched, into the following of something hoped for that hasn't ever been seen, I guess that's when confidence and prayers come in. could you tell me how this work, If someone give you a lie for the truth, as a believer what would you do with it?
Read the bible, and you will find out who God is
Why nature work so well, without any dogmatic books to govern it? I am not talking about the destruction of man to imbalance a perfect system.
Hi Marily, why is it that Freethinka has to read a bible to know who god is? What was life before the bible? I hope your answer is perfect or pristine, before evil men saw its beauty and lay hold, try to take the fame, for all the wonderous works in the name of god. What do you think?
Marily, who is the devil? One must have a devil, to recognize the devil, one must have a god, to recognize, god, like good, like evil; it is in every one of us. Like, wet need dry, or, you may live, but must die. In life without opposites this planet would not exist. Do you have an opinion? Hope you understand my metaphor.
If we look at satan as zero to 49,999 and, god from 50 to 100 this makes a full, almighty God. What do you think?. There is also that fine line that is between 49,000 to 50, that bonds satan and god. Think about that also...Quote:
Originally Posted by XenoSapien
Actually one must have the Holy Ghost to recognize the devil, simple revelation hey ?
God is pure and whole and all. Satan, along with the rest of us, is only a 'part'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freethinka
XenoSapien
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Ordinaryguy I could not agree with you more, very well said !
Allheart,Quote:
Originally Posted by Allheart
I can't help myself... I got to say it. You can't push your thoughts on to someone else... that is impossible. I can only take that comment to mean, you are being milquetoast and you don't stand up for what you believe in. Jesus said to beware when all men speak well of you. In other words, when you stand up for TRUTH... not everyone is going to like it.You may ruffle some feathers and that is OK... Jesus certainly DID.
He also said that He would rather we be HOT or COLD because this in between, lukewarm stuff, is so nasty it makes Him spit us out of His mouth. ( I know, I know you never read that or was taught that so it can't be true... ) yes, he said that see Revelation 3:15.
Allheart you are a sweetie, it comes through in all your posts even when you were rebuking me for my sarcasm. Well, I'm going to challenge you a little bit. IF Jesus is your Savior and IF you Love him and can't imagine living life without him then say so without an a apology to anyone. You can do that and still be sweet all at the same time. (maybe I can't.. but YOU can) ;)
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