1 Cor. 6:19-20
19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?
20 For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.

Do you think that getting a tattoo is right? If you do then why wouldn't God have put them on your vody in the first place?

Leviticus chapter 19, verse 28

I wouldn't recommend you do that... Look up the history of where tatoos came from...

Sometimes if we were not careful we will lone to do things that has a bad spiritual meaning to it...

Be careful... everything is not innocent.

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Originally Posted by j276

1 Cor. 6:19-20
19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?
20 For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.

do you think that getting a tattoo is right? if you do then why wouldnt God have put them on your vody in the first place?

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That verse is talking about uniting your body with a temple prostitute and making God's temple one flesh with a demon's temple. It has nothing to do with tattoos.

There is no truth to the statement about temple prostitutes. I would encourage you to go back and run more reference before making statements like this.
God bless you.

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Originally Posted by poppa0777

There is no truth to the statement about temple prostitutes. I would encourage you to go back and run more reference before making statements like this.
God bless you.

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1 Corinthians 6:15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” 17 But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit.
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

The entire context is about sex with prostitutes. In Paul's day, prostitutes plied their trade to raise money for the pagan temples that employed them. You do the math.

Personally I think that tattoos make then human body ugly.
God gave most of us a beautiful body.
Why mess it up with pictures, symbols, and in some cases filthy art or words?
I girl I am aware of had a magnificent body that was easily seen at the beach when she wore he bikini.
But she had tattoos place on her body and ruined it.
She now wears a smock when at the beach because she realizes what she has done.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

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Originally Posted by arcura

God gave most of us a beautiful body.

Fred

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Fred,

LOL.. I don't know what beach YOU go to, but... the ones on the east coast.. I don't know. Pretty sad displays of the human body and no shame whatsoever about it. ( there are some exceptions but in general.. ) :D
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is a verse in the OT about putting marks on your body and God said NOT to. We aren't under the law but I personally wouldn't do it. AND I don't want my kids to do it. For ME, it is identifying with the world and we are called to be separate and holy. I don't think it is a sin, but I don't like them. Could be because of the way my generation was raised.. I don't know. I guess this is one of those times where I would use this verse:

1 corinthians 10:23 "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive.

I just don't think being covered in tattoos and peircings looks like you are trying to separate from this world system. But I don't think looking like you just stepped out of the 1800's is a good look for a Christian either. ( you know women who won't cut their long locks no matter how old they are, won't color their hair, won't put on a little makeup for heaven sakes) The Lord wants us to be salt and light. We should be attractive to people outside of the church not weird looking. There is a happy medium.

But my boys think I'm just a "square". And I'm even more a "square" when I say "square". They shake their heads and say "you're weird, mom".

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Originally Posted by classyt

fred,

lol..i don't know what beach you go to, but...the ones on the east coast..i dunno. Pretty sad displays of the human body and no shame whatsoever about it. ( there are some exceptions but in general..) :d
i guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is a verse in the ot about putting marks on your body and god said not to. We aren't under the law but i personally wouldn't do it. And i don't want my kids to do it. For me, it is identifying with the world and we are called to be seperate and holy. I don't think it is a sin, but i don't like them. Could be because of the way my generation was raised..i don't know. I guess this is one of those times where i would use this verse:

1 corinthians 10:23 "everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. "everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive.

I just don't think being covered in tattoos and peircings looks like you are trying to seperate from this world system. But i don't think looking like you just stepped out of the 1800's is a good look for a christian either. ( you know women who won't cut their long locks no matter how old they are, won't color their hair, won't put on a little makeup for heaven sakes) the lord wants us to be salt and light. We should be attractive to people outside of the church not weird looking. There is a happy medium.

But my boys think i'm just a "square". And i'm even more a "square" when i say "square". They shake their heads and say "you're weird, mom".

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Amen!!

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Originally Posted by poppa0777

There is no truth to the statement about temple prostitutes. I would encourage you to go back and run more reference before making statements like this.
God bless you.

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Thanks for the reddie. It's been a while since somebody gave me a bogus one of those. Don't worry, I'm not one of those who gives them back in retaliation. But I suggest you take a look at the guidelines for using them before you do that to somebody else.

I don't care if you "agree" with the translation or not; that was the New International Version, and I gave you the full context of the verse to show what it meant. It really doesn't matter whether you like it or agree or not, that's what the text says.

LOL... LOL...
I still think that God gave us a beautiful body, but...
How many take good care of it?
OBVIOUSLY many have not and do not.
There are quite a few very ugly bodies that can be seen shopping in places like Walmart and Kmart. You don't need to go to a beach to see them.
BUT...
There are still those folks who do take good care of their bodies.
Unfortunately not enough do so. The USA is one of the countries that has a very high percentage of obese people of all ages.
I must admit that I was one of them for several years.
I tipped the scales at 226 pounds. For a short man that is a lot of fat to pack around.
Now I weigh 134 pounds and know what a relief it is to have cast off a lot of weight.
Peace and kindness,
Fred.

Fred,

WOW! Good for YOU!

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Originally Posted by dwashbur

1 Corinthians 6:15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” 17 But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit.
18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

The entire context is about sex with prostitutes. In Paul's day, prostitutes plied their trade to raise money for the pagan temples that employed them. You do the math.

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Dave, take off the blinders! The NIV is the most grossly misinterpreted translation there is! It scares me that you're willing to base your doctrinal views on such trash. #1. The NIV denies the blood. That's all I need to see to know it is full of poison, and needs to be avoided at all costs. Your answers are a prime example.

Poppa,

I take it you are a big KJV guy? You should check out Dave's resume before you disagree too much. I personally love KJV.

I don't agree with everything Dave says... but I think I'm scared for you for saying that to him. Hee hee. Good luck with all THAT.

Dave,

Enjoy! :D

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Originally Posted by poppa0777

Dave, take off the blinders! The NIV is the most grossly misinterpreted translation there is! It scares me that you're willing to base your doctrinal views on such trash. #1. The NIV denies the blood. That's all I need to see to know it is full of poison, and needs to be avoided at all costs. Your answers are a prime example.

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I use the NIV because it's convenient. My answers are based on the Greek text. How much Greek do YOU read? I gave you the entire context of the passage, which you still haven't addressed. Here it is in the KJV:

15Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. 16What? Know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? For two, saith he, shall be one flesh. 17But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. 18Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19What? Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

You may (or may not) notice that it says exactly the same thing as the NIV: the subject is joining God's temple (your body) to a prostitute, and has nothing to do with tattoos, smoking or anything else. Instead of hiding behind "I don't agree with your translation," why don't you deal with the actual passage?

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Originally Posted by dwashbur

I use the NIV because it's convenient. My answers are based on the Greek text. How much Greek do YOU read? I gave you the entire context of the passage, which you still haven't addressed. Here it is in the KJV:

15Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. 16What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. 17But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. 18Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

You may (or may not) notice that it says exactly the same thing as the NIV: the subject is joining God's temple (your body) to a prostitute, and has nothing to do with tattoos, smoking or anything else. Instead of hiding behind "I don't agree with your translation," why don't you deal with the actual passage?

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It will not be fruitful to debate with you, and I am not going to. I can see that your feathers are easily ruffled. I will pray for you, and I'm sorry I offended you. God bless you.

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Originally Posted by poppa0777

It will not be fruitful to debate with you, and I am not going to. I can see that your feathers are easily ruffled. I will pray for you, and I'm sorry I offended you. God bless you.

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Oh, that's good. Typical, but good. Translation: "I don't have an answer, can't read Greek, my comments on translations are based on something I read somewhere, I can't actually deal with the passage because it really does say what you claim it does but I can't admit that.

I'm not the one whose feathers are ruffled; I find stuff like you presented amusing. Instead of the above cop-out, why don't you answer some of the questions? I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to hear your reply.

Trust me, it takes a LOT more than what you came up with to offend me. But just so we each understand where the other is, let me explain your "NIV denies the blood" comment. It revolves around Colossians 1:14, which in the KJV says "in whom we have redemption through his blood," whereas the NIV doesn't have "through his blood." Based on that, there are those who claim that the NIV denies the blood of Jesus.

How'd I do?

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Originally Posted by classyT

There is a verse in the OT about putting marks on your body and God said NOT to.

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And of course, God was talking about tattoos... (Actually, God wasn't talking about tattoos as we know them.)

My parents used that verse as proof that God did not want me to get my ears pierced. "If God had wanted you to have holes in your ears, He would have created you that way."

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1 corinthians 10:23 "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive.

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My parents used that verse as proof that God did not want me to attend high school dances. I couldn't even go to the prom. Was that a valid use for that verse? Do you think people pull out that verse and use it for incorrect religious monitoring of others? I would rather have had my parents tell me exactly why they themselves did not want me to go to dances, rather than lay the blame on God.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

And of course, God was talking about tattoos.... (Actually, God wasn't talking about tattoos as we know them.)

My parents used that verse as proof that God did not want me to get my ears pierced. "If God had wanted you to have holes in your ears, He would have created you that way."

My parents used that verse as proof that God did not want me to attend high school dances. I couldn't even go to the prom. Was that a valid use for that verse? Do you think people pull out that verse and use it for incorrect religious monitoring of others? I would rather have had my parents tell me exactly why they themselves did not want me to go to dances, rather than lay the blame on God.

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WG,

We are not under the law but I just wouldn't do it. I explained why in my post. And my dad wouldn't let me go to the prom either.. or dances. I t was stupid and still is in my opinion. We all bring our upbringing with us and our generations way of looking at things. I still think the verse I used by Paul applies here.

I do NOT think it is a sin. But it also doesn't separate ourselves from this world. Sorry WG... but when you see someone covered with tattoos and piercings... do you automatcially say "OH! they must be a Christian". That is all I am saying...

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Originally Posted by classyT

do you automatcially say "OH! they must be a Christian". That is all i am saying....

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So just who do you "automatically" say is a Christian? My nephew has piercings and a few tattoos and, no, I can't look into his heart, but he attends church at least weekly, helps old ladies across the street, and is a good husband. He's not really a Christian because of the tattoos and piercings?

Could I "automatically" say my former coworker who is kind to everyone and who is respectful to authority and who has a wonderful marriage and who takes food to her church for special dinners and potlucks and who attends her church faithfully and who prays several times a day is a Christian?