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  • May 5, 2021, 12:46 PM
    jlisenbe
    WG I have already studied the subject. I have no intention of doing your googling for you.
  • May 5, 2021, 12:50 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    WG I have already studied the subject. I have no intention of doing your googling for you.

    No, you haven't studied it!!! Gimme a break! Do you even know a transgender person? If you do, have you asked that person honest, thoughtful questions?

    Rather than have you spit on my choices of sites, here's a golden opportunity for you to let go of your religious prejudices by doing your own research!
  • May 5, 2021, 01:21 PM
    waltero
    Quote:

    Do you even know a transgender person? If you do, have you asked that person honest, thoughtful questions?
    I think you spend far too much time with these people.
  • May 5, 2021, 01:25 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    I think you spend far too much time with these people.

    I spend more time dealing with you. All of "these people" have heartbreaking stories.
  • May 5, 2021, 01:42 PM
    waltero
    Quote:

    Are they willing to be transformed?
    Yes and many have been
    At what cost?
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    Whom are they focused on? Are they willing to be transformed?
    Yes and many have been, have even become Christian ministers and teachers.
    Is it possible they have been given over to a reprobate mind?
  • May 5, 2021, 01:43 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    Giving them over to a reprobate mind.

    Not at all! How do you figure?
  • May 5, 2021, 02:01 PM
    waltero
    Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
  • May 5, 2021, 02:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

    Do what things? If you were born transgender, then what?
  • May 5, 2021, 02:10 PM
    waltero
    If your were born Human, then what?
  • May 5, 2021, 02:16 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    If your were born Human, then what?

    Exactly! Transgenders are born human and are transgender because of prenatal changes due to hormone influences either during the pregnancy months from mom and/or because of meds given by the OB to prevent miscarriage.
  • May 5, 2021, 02:24 PM
    waltero
    Quote:

    If your were born Human, then what?
    Be Born again!!!
  • May 5, 2021, 02:27 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    Be Born again!!!

    And many have been! Now our mission is to reach and teach those who haven't been.
  • May 5, 2021, 02:29 PM
    waltero
    Quote:

    Transgenders are born human and are transgender because of prenatal changes due to hormone influences either during the pregnancy months from mom and/or because of meds given by the OB to prevent miscarriage.
    So what does this have to do with anything?

    I think it's great that other churches leave their doors open for us, But I really don't like what they say, so I will become Born again, and create the reformed church of gays - Create a place where our old selves can come together and believe.
  • May 5, 2021, 02:33 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    No, you haven't studied it!!! Gimme a break! Do you even know a transgender person? If you do, have you asked that person honest, thoughtful questions?

    Rather than have you spit on my choices of sites, here's a golden opportunity for you to let go of your religious prejudices by doing your own research!
    You are doing what people with no data and no support do. Resort to personal attacks and challenge the other person to go look for data.
  • May 5, 2021, 02:40 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You are doing what people with no data and no support do. Resort to personal attacks and challenge the other person to go look for data.

    Ah, you DON'T know a transgender person nor are you willing to find out the truth. Talk about no data and no support...!
  • May 5, 2021, 02:48 PM
    waltero
    Quote:

    Ah, you DON'T know a transgender person nor are you willing to find out the truth. Talk about no data and no support...!
    You can't handle the truth. You are so focused on finding the truth of transgenders, that you miss the only truth, entirely.

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    Ah, you DON'T know a transgender person
    In this day and age, is that even possible?
  • May 5, 2021, 02:48 PM
    jlisenbe
    You make a claim you cannot support. When I call you on it, you get mad. Too bad.

    I already know the truth and have already told you the truth. There is practically no evidence to support the idea that there is a genetic connection to being gay or TG.
  • May 5, 2021, 02:58 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You make a claim you cannot support. When I call you on it, you get mad. Too bad.

    I'm not mad. I'm laughing at your unwillingness to open your mind.
    Quote:

    I already know the truth and have already told you the truth. There is practically no evidence to support the idea that there is a genetic connection to being gay or TG.
    I'll sit quietly while you do some honest research.

    WG said: Ah, you DON'T know a transgender person

    waltero said:
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    In this day and age, is that even possible?
    Very much so. Let me know when you are willing to do honest research with and questioning of one (or more).
  • May 5, 2021, 03:27 PM
    jlisenbe
    You make an unsupported, ridiculous claim and I'M THE ONE who is supposed to do your research for you?

    You live in a strange world.
  • May 5, 2021, 03:36 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You make an unsupported, ridiculous claim and I'M THE ONE who is supposed to do your research for you?

    You live in a strange world.

    I don't need the research. You do. And you spit on whatever I come up with.
  • May 5, 2021, 04:17 PM
    jlisenbe
    You come up with nothing.
  • May 5, 2021, 07:14 PM
    jlisenbe
    Just to be clear, I have nothing but sympathy for those who are victims of unnatural sexual desires or gender confusion. I have no interest in judging or condemning them. However, nor do I have an interest in getting them to believe that the Bible approves of their lifestyles or problems when it plainly does not. There are many sexual urges out there that are urgent and seem natural to those who carry them out, but that is not the determining factor. Does God approve? That is the primary question. The life-changing power of Jesus to bring healing, joy, peace and happiness is the real answer.
  • May 5, 2021, 07:25 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Just to be clear, I have nothing but sympathy for those who are victims of unnatural sexual desires or gender confusion. I have no interest in judging or condemning them. However, nor do I have an interest in getting them to believe that the Bible approves of their lifestyles or problems when it plainly does not. There are many sexual urges out there that are urgent and seem natural to those who carry them out, but that is not the determining factor. Does God approve? That is the primary question. The life-changing power of Jesus to bring healing, joy, peace and happiness is the real answer.

    Now tell Mother Nature that. Be sure to give her a good scolding on top of it! And throw in that I'm not real happy that she took my younger son away three years ago and blessed my older son with autism.
  • May 5, 2021, 11:48 PM
    waltero
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    Now tell Mother Nature that. Be sure to give her a good scolding on top of it! And throw in that I'm not real happy that she took my younger son away three years ago and blessed my older son with autism
    Nope, Nothing Worldly here.
  • May 6, 2021, 05:23 AM
    jlisenbe
    Very sorry for the loss of your son. Lost a beloved nephew a year ago. I preached his funeral. Felt kind of bad about that as I started crying probably half a dozen times. Those things are painful.
  • May 6, 2021, 04:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by waltero View Post
    Nope, Nothing Worldly here.

    We groan under the weight of these injuries and losses simply because Adam and Eve wanted to be like God and thus they sampled the forbidden fruit. You're very young. Someday you will understand.
  • May 6, 2021, 07:31 PM
    jlisenbe
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    We groan under the weight of these injuries and losses simply because Adam and Eve wanted to be like God and thus they sampled the forbidden fruit.
    It certainly allowed sin and wickedness to enter in and spread wildly. Did it make those things acceptable? Not at all.
  • May 7, 2021, 07:29 AM
    waltero
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    You come up with nothing
    Mother nature knows nothing.

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