rnrg,
Agreed 199%
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Mrg...

You have much wisdom! I agree 110%! ( yes, I'm trying one up you Fred!) LOL ;) ( teasing of course)

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Originally Posted by arcura

paraclete,
I agree with you.
Also I do accept the many proofs that there is a God including those that quantum science provides and the mathematical certainty that God exists.
That is that this universe's change of happening by accident is just one chance in 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000.
With the universe estimated by science to be only 8,000,000,000 year old it is impossible to have happened by accident.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

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Hello Fred

Quantum mechanics does not provide any proof for the existence of God, mathematical or otherwise. When you are talking about a probability universe you are no doubt referring to a formulation of the anthropic principle. Quantum mechanics and some type of anthropic formulation are not one and the same.

Regards. Tut

Tut,
I have a book by a physicist who shows that quantum does indicate the existence of a supreme intelligence.
He was so convinced that he became a priest.
There are several persons of such persuasion.
And no, I was not trying to mix quantum mechanics and some type of anthropic formulation for I do know that they are not the same.
Thanks anyway.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Hello Fred,

Apologies for thinking that you didn't know the difference.

The book sounds like a good read so I was wondering if you can provide me the author and title?

From my point of view I find this a most interesting claim. Einstein was quickly aware of the implications that quantum theory had on religion so he coined the dictum "God does not play dice".
Einstein was unhappy about the apparent randomness of physical properties and believed that quantum theory was incomplete. He postulated that there must be "hidden variables" which have yet to be discovered.
Einstein always held on to the belief that there was an underlying reality to the universe which fitted into his beliefs about God. He would not accept that we live in a universe which is determined by chance.
Unfortunately for Einstein,"Bell's Inequality" suggests that there are no hidden variables. Not only does God play dice he takes every opportunity to throw the dice.

This is why I was somewhat surprised that someone would choose something like quantum theory to try and prove the existence of God.