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  • Jul 9, 2009, 08:24 PM
    N0help4u

    They do not limit God to their own beliefs.
    Quite the contrary. God isn't about anything goes as many Christians seem to believe.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 08:25 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    I was surprised to see that someone who calls themself a Christian, advised the OP to read read read all different types of material from Hindu's, Muslims, wiccan...whatever!

    That is NOT what I said. Go back and reread what I said.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 08:26 PM
    classyT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    It's very simple. Many Christians have a more profound understanding of Christianity than Fundamentalists. It's really as simple as that. They don't limit God to their own beliefs. Good night, all.

    LOL... k. thanks Athos. I don't limit God... He can do anything he wants.. but he cannont LIE. Have a good night.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 08:29 PM
    classyT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    That is NOT what I said. Go back and reread what I said.

    WG.

    I don't have my contacts in. But I will put my glasses on and go back and read it.What did I say that was wrong. Didn't you say read read read and talk to all types of people of different faiths? I didn't quote you but that was my take.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 08:31 PM
    N0help4u

    ... and that God is written on all their hearts.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 08:49 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    WG.

    I don't have my contacts in. But I will put my glasses on and go back and read it.What did I say that was wrong. Didn't you say read read read and talk to all types of people of different faiths? i didn't quote you but that was my take.

    You keep changing what I "said." In your original post you said, "...advised the OP to read read read all different types of material from Hindu's, Muslims, wiccan...whatever!" I did not say that. If I cannot trust what you are saying about me only 24 hours later, how can I trust ANYthing you say?
  • Jul 9, 2009, 08:50 PM
    classyT

    WG,

    OK this is what you said...

    The main thing is, talk to lots of people -- Hindus, Buddhists, Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans, atheists, agnostics, wiccans, Muslims -- and read, read, read! Meanwhile, keep an open mind.

    I'm really not trying to be unkind. I just don't know why you would send someone in search of something you have and know how to get to... to talk to people that don't have him. Anyone who rejects Christ... (according to Christ )can't get to the Father.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 08:51 PM
    classyT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You keep changing what I "said." In your original post you said, "...advised the OP to read read read all different types of material from Hindu's, Muslims, wiccan...whatever!" I did not say that. If I cannot trust what you are saying about me only 24 hours later, how can I trust ANYthing you say?

    I quoted you... lets discuss what you really did say.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 08:53 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    I quoted you...lets discuss what you really did say.

    "lets discuss"?? Please copy and paste what I really said.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 08:59 PM
    N0help4u

    Okay I found it copied and pasted right here

    Did I say people have the answers? NO.
    Do you have the answers? It seems so. And it scares me that someone is to read the Bible and decide for himself what anything means. Have I read the Bible? Many times? Have I studied the Bible alone and with others? Yes, for over 50 years. Do I have all the answers? No. Is God at work in my life? Yes, through all the people I deal with each day--the Muslims, the Buddhists, the wiccans, the Catholics, the Lutherans, the atheists, the agnostics, and even the Baptists, Methodists, and the Hindus--especially the Hindus because they make fantastic samosas and a more gentle people I will never meet.


    Because I meet God in each of those people every day. I get the opportunity to not only see His love in their faces but share His love with each of them.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 09:01 PM
    classyT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    "lets discuss"?????? Please copy and paste what I really said.

    I did... it was the second line... OK... I will do it again... here it goes.. this is YOUR words.


    The main thing is, talk to lots of people -- Hindus, Buddhists, Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans, atheists, agnostics, wiccans, Muslims -- and read, read, read! Meanwhile, keep an open mind.

    I copied and pasted...
  • Jul 9, 2009, 09:04 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    I did...it was the second line ..... ok....i will do it again...here it goes..this is YOUR words.


    The main thing is, talk to lots of people -- Hindus, Buddhists, Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans, atheists, agnostics, wiccans, Muslims -- and read, read, read! Meanwhile, keep an open mind.

    i copied and pasted...

    Now, tell me how that is the same as what you claimed I had said: "...advised the OP to read read read all different types of material from Hindu's, Muslims, wiccan...whatever!"
  • Jul 9, 2009, 09:05 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    okay I found it copied and pasted right here

    Did I say people have the answers? NO.
    Do you have the answers? It seems so. And it scares me that someone is to read the Bible and decide for himself what anything means. Have I read the Bible? Many times? Have I studied the Bible alone and with others? Yes, for over 50 years. Do I have all the answers? No. Is God at work in my life? Yes, through all the people I deal with each day--the Muslims, the Buddhists, the wiccans, the Catholics, the Lutherans, the atheists, the agnostics, and even the Baptists, Methodists, and the Hindus--especially the Hindus because they make fantastic samosas and a more gentle people I will never meet.


    Because I meet God in each of those people every day. I get the opportunity to not only see His love in their faces but share His love with each of them.

    Wrong quote, Nohelp.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 09:07 PM
    N0help4u
    I can understand what you are saying sort of because God has used non believers and addicts to show me and teach me many spiritual truths
    But you go on to make it out like there is no distinction between believers and non believers when you said these things...

    Jesushelper is correct. When God created each one of us, He wrote His name on our heart (i.e, conscience).
    __________________

    Originally Posted by classyT
    Jesushelper, we really don't all have God's spirit.

    Wondergirl
    Yes, we do. We are all His creatures and share His image.

    As I said right before that post got closed
    God says that if you confess your sins he will forgive them. People that do not aknowledge God do not confess and have remorse and ask God to forgive them and help them at overcoming their sin. They don't even see sin as being sin.

    So how is someone who denies Christ fit into what you are claiming?
  • Jul 9, 2009, 09:09 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    you go on to make it out like there is no distinction between believers and non believers when you said these things...

    That's a stretch.

    Quote:

    Jesushelper is correct. When God created each one of us, He wrote His name on our heart (i.e, conscience).
    I said that.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 09:11 PM
    N0help4u

    Okay so what are you saying about the people who you see God in their faces?

    You seem to be defending that they are going to heaven no matter what they believe. But from what you seem to be saying now that is not what you mean. So what are you saying/meaning?
  • Jul 9, 2009, 09:15 PM
    classyT

    OK... so I didn't say it exactly. I still am confused by what you said to a person in search of something you say you have found.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 09:17 PM
    classyT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    I can understand what you are saying sort of because God has used non believers and addicts to show me and teach me many spiritual truths
    But you go on to make it out like there is no distinction between believers and non believers when you said these things.......

    Jesushelper is correct. When God created each one of us, He wrote His name on our heart (i.e, conscience).
    __________________

    Originally Posted by classyT
    Jesushelper, we really don't all have God's spirit.

    Wondergirl
    Yes, we do. We are all His creatures and share His image.

    As I said right before that post got closed
    God says that if you confess your sins he will forgive them. People that do not aknowledge God do not confess and have remorse and ask God to forgive them and help them at overcoming their sin. They don't even see sin as being sin.

    So how is someone who denies Christ fit into what you are claiming?

    This is what I am trying to understand.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 09:17 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    okay so what are you saying about the people who you see God in their faces?

    What do you think it means?

    Quote:

    You seem to be defending that they are going to heaven no matter what they believe.
    Heaven was never mentioned, at least not by me.

    Quote:

    But from what you seem to be saying now that is not what you mean. So what are you saying/meaning?
    I am saying exactly the same thing as last night. You and ClassyT are having a heck of a time even quoting me.
  • Jul 9, 2009, 09:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    ok...so i didn't say it exactly. I still am confused by what you said to a person in search of something you say you have found.

    I haven't the faintest idea what you are saying.

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