NeedKarma,
If you see it that way it's OK for you but I don't.
It was just a way of a saying and an oddball one at that.
I was trying to be cute and obviously failed
They don't believe in God, they say. But as such I don't believe in them for I feel and think that down deeply, hidden in their sub-conscience they know there is a God.
There are no atheists in foxholes is an old saying that I think is very true.
It has been witness in many wars including the one in Korea where I was.
I'm going to be gone from my home for a few days visiting family way up north.
I hope everyone has a happy and good holiday season.
Peace and kindness and have prosperous gentle new year,
Fred

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But as such I don't believe in them for I feel and think that down deeply, hidden in their sub-conscience they know there is a God.

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I think it's the other way way around: the believers, hidden in their sub-conscience, deep down, have some doubts whether a god exists.

NeedKarma,
Obviously we think differently.
Personally I KNOW there is a God.. There is no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

I saw an interview with Dawkins where he actually said he believed there was a designer but that designer is most probably an alien rather than a God.

Very scientific and lgical I thought

What empircal evidence did Dawkins bring to the table to float that hypothesis ?

As we have seen with anthropological global warming ,it is very possible that the science itself can be corrupted when a scientist has a cult-like devotion to a predetermined conclusion.

He can believe in an alien designer but not a god? That's very logical. Speaking of AGW, I'd sure like some. I can't remember being so cold for so long in these parts.

speechlesstx,
I agree about an alien designer who is powerful enough and wise enough to design and create the universe.
That so called alien must have been a god to be able to do that.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

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Religion Must Be Destroyed, Atheist Alliance Declares



No word on whether or not tolerance was a subject of discussion although one of the speakers at the conference, Sale McGowan, believes "humility is the natural inheritance of atheism." I'm not sure one reconciles these "bright" atheists pronouncement that religion must be destroyed with the pronouncement that "humility is the natural inheritance of atheism." Anyone? Or is it all just an atheist aversion?

Also, is anyone out there in fear of moderate Christians taking the next step and blowing themselves up, or is Harris right in that "Christians had a right to be outraged when the media treated the two religions similarly?"

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Listen you stupid people, religion has ended more life than anything the world has ever known. No need for the plague or aids or anything like that. Just have religion. I know many people of all religion greed greed and more greed, how can people with money watch starving people children . India all over the bloody world go to there churches and pray ing idiots, they are the one's rotting in hell

nick444,
Sorry nick, but I strongly disagree.
Yes religion has caused some serious problems over time, BUT...
NOT as much as no religion at all combined with forces trying to stomp out religion.
The fighting against spiritual belief has been foolish, destructive, deadly, and a failure as it always will be.
That's history and trying to change it is a foolish endeavor.
Peace and kindness,
Fred