You would be well familiar with those types of arguments, seeing as it's all you're capable of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tj3
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You would be well familiar with those types of arguments, seeing as it's all you're capable of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tj3
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Originally Posted by superwario99
Correct and yet incorrect. The Bible makes clear that Jesus is A god, certainly, but Jesus is not God Almighty. There is a difference.
John 1:1 - "In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god." - NWT
Will everyone please stop arguing? I like this question, and would prefer if it didn't get closed because of arguments. It gives me, and everyone else, a chance to see how others view Jesus, and what they believe.
You don't have to agree with anyone here. Simply state what you believe, personally, about who Jesus was or is.
Again thanks to all of you that posted responses on who you think Jesus is. I was enlightened and encouraged from many of the responses. Let's try not to get so far off that we lose sight of things.
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Originally Posted by silentrascal
Sigh - more ad hominems.
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Originally Posted by silentrascal
So you believe in polytheism?
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Originally Posted by Tj3
The Bible itself says there are numerous Gods, yet only one True, Almighty God who is deserving of our worship. I give my worship to the One Almighty god, thus I do not believe in polytheism.
Then why does the one true God not know of any others?Quote:
Originally Posted by silentrascal
Isa 44:8
Is there a God besides Me?
Indeed there is no other Rock;
I know not one.'"
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Are you suggesting that he is forgetful?
Ah, you mean like Jesus is worshiped in the Bible!Quote:
yet only one True, Almighty God who is deserving of our worship.
Matt 2:11
11 And when they had come into the house, they saw the young Child with Mary His mother, and fell down and worshiped Him.
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Matt 8:2-4
2 And behold, a leper came and worshiped Him, saying, "Lord, if You are willing, You can make me clean." 3 Then Jesus put out His hand and touched him, saying, "I am willing; be cleansed." Immediately his leprosy was cleansed.
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Matt 9:18-20
18 While He spoke these things to them, behold, a ruler came and worshiped Him, saying, "My daughter has just died, but come and lay Your hand on her and she will live." 19 So Jesus arose and followed him, and so did His disciples.
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Matt 14:33
33 Then those who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, "Truly You are the Son of God."
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Matt 28:9-10
9 And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, "Rejoice!" So they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go and tell My brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see Me."
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Matt 28:16-18
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
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Mark 5:6-7
6 When he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped Him. 7 And he cried out with a loud voice and said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God that You do not torment me."
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John 9:35-39
35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when He had found him, He said to him, "Do you believe in the Son of God?" 36 He answered and said, "Who is He, Lord, that I may believe in Him?" 37 And Jesus said to him, "You have both seen Him and it is He who is talking with you." 38 Then he said, "Lord, I believe!" And he worshiped Him.
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Thank you for saying that! Doing that would be much more in line with the intentions of the original poster. If people want to argue about the fine points of why they believe the way that they do and how others might be wrong in the way that they believe, then they should start a separate thread for that purpose and put into the question that their intent for posting the question is to debate ad nauseum with others.Quote:
Originally Posted by retsoksirhc
Do you suppose there is any hope for this thread to get back on the intended track?
And, thank you for saying that! Especially, since you are the one who originated the thread!Quote:
Originally Posted by mountain_man
It's one thing to have a thread veer a little way off it's intended course because the people posting might be having a little fun and rapport. But, to have a thread go off course because of people who really don't seem to care about keeping on track with the intent of the original post and going off according to their own self-serving agenda, is another thing entirely.
Jesus is my Everything. He is the One who knows me inside and out. He hears me and listens to my anxious heart. He restores me when I am willing to let Him into my every day. He is the only One I can count on to always be there for me. He has promised to never let me down, never let me go. He has promised to heal my broken places. He breaks me when pride creeps back in. He corrects and disciplines me when I go astray, and He loves me and forgives me when I come back. He challenges me to lay down the things of this world that I have held so tightly to. He encourages me to pick up the gifts He has for me. He asks for me to lay my burdens at His feet so He may carry them, and He asks me to take up my cross and follow Him. He wants to exchange the heavy past, present and future I've created and carried for the yoke of submission to Him that is light and refreshing. I am thankful and ever grateful that He chose to love me and called me as His own. Thank you for allowing me to remember Who He Is.
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Originally Posted by Tj3
You really aren't very bright, are you? And using an errant version like the King James really doesn't help you out either.
Your use of ad hominems says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentrascal
And likewise does your repetition of stupid comments.Quote:
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Just a reminder to anyone who continues to post that what is above is the original intent of this thread. Continuing to argue the fine points of an individual person's beliefs is not keeping within the original intent of this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by mountain_man
I think you are missing one important thing. Non of the people you mentioned have billions of followers and have changed the course of history.
Lucky? The fact that he has the most followers further proves his deity. Christianity is also the fastest growing religion in the world.
It is a historical fact that Jesus lived. The are non biblical accounts of jesus and even a secularist can not deny his existence. That's like denying queen elizabeth the first existed.
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