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WGWho in the wide wide world of sports is... US ?Quote:
God has already given us salvation.
Excuse me!! But your statement above seems to me the height of arrogance and presumption. Or maybe you just don't really grasp what salvation is all about.
And salvation has everything to do with seeking God, in my opinion. Although our seeking it in no way guarantees anything. Nevertheless it is the one overriding and compellingly urgent reason why we should continue to seek God.
WGI don't give two hoots about what you said.Quote:
Our seeking God is part of Sanctification. I said we seek God in the faces of all those around us, ministering to the least among us.
It's what the Bible says that counts.
I already quoted the Bible. None of this is from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
WGWe are on this thread presumably because we are servicing the askers question. Yet you seem to keep retreating to a world of your own. If you are tired of discussing how we can seek God, and giving reasonable effort to corroborating your statements, then maybe you should take some personal time out.Quote:
I already quoted the Bible. None of this is from me.
Southamerica:)Quote:
I guess I'll take my chances
I too take my chances. :cool:
I hereby unsubscribe to this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
You said only the Bible counts; she pointed out that she has already quoted the Bible, and then you descended into personal attack. It seems to me WG has made her case and you just keep dodging.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
DwashburI have a new pespective on how this site is managed, and I fully intend to abide by the policy of servicing the original asker's question. And not allowing myself to be sucked into personal (or otherwise) debates.Quote:
It seems to me WG has made her case...
Wondergirl said:That's WG's latest statement on the issue of seeking God. Right now this minute I'm not going to go looking all over this site to find any Bible verses she may have given to support that assertion.Quote:
Our seeking God is part of Sanctification.
I'm saying that the assertion she made should not be left standing by itself like it is. She should have immediately included at least one good Bible reference to support her sentence. Anyone can make any assertions they please, as far as I'm concerened. But here we're trying to help answer a question and hopefully supply some food for thought and also possibly some corroboration for our claims.
So, she already gave her biblical references for such things, but because you don't feel like going to find them (apparently didn't notice them the first time?), she should reinvent the wheel. Wow. I'm out of this discussion as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
An excellent Bible verse that directly speaks to the issue of our seeking God is found in Zephaniah 2:3.
"Seek ye YHWH all ye meek of the Earth which have wrought His judgment. Seek righteousness. Seek meekness. It may be ye shall be hid in the day of YHWH's anger."
HSB,
Do you go back and read the things you say to people? You are rude and proud. Or were you too busy being obnoxious to notice . WG was being nice to you.
You keep offending everyone and they will leave the threads... then you won't have anyone to share that wealth of knowledge in your bonehead... errrr.. I mean headstrong mind of yours. So knock it off. Lest you are left with no one to discuss with.
Yes the Bible itself says that God gives grace to the humble, and He resists the proud.
Therefore, to put oneself into an environment where God is saving, we should strive to be as humble as possible toward God. And if that means stepping on a few toes, here and there, so be it.
The point is that we should obey God, and fear God rather than fear displeasing people.
The earthquake in Japan is just another preview of the grand-daddy of all earthquakes that's coming May 21, 2011. Repent... now while there is still time.
The tsunami that hit Japan is an indicator of what an 8.8 earthquake is capable of. And an earthquake is an indicator of plate tectonics. Plate tectonics are a part of the geology of the Earth.
Okay I'm not much of a scientist AT ALL but I at least know that there are physical reasons earthquakes and tsunamis happen.
My heart aches for Japan and those who lost homes and loved ones. I pray for their healing.
I am sorry to have revisited this thread, I just do not like it when people use natural disasters or terrorism as a reason to say people must repent.
I'm not much of a scientist either. But this thread is about seeking God. And God is in charge of all things, including plate tectonics.
So, I'd say it's not much of a stretch to presume God is warning us with the current series of quakes. As we approach the day of May 21, 2011.
And as far as really seeking God, there is no time like the present to seek God. Salvation may still be found. Like it or not.
Using natural disasters and the misery of others to try and push one's agenda is the height of tackiness. Unfortunately, it's not all that surprising out of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
Um, according to you, no it can't, because it's all preordained, predestined, presweetened and all that and there's nothing we can do about it. I'm glad you've seen the error of your ways.Quote:
And as far as really seeking God, there is no time like the present to seek God. Salvation may still be found. Like it or not.
Not at all. I never said that salvation could not be found. You seem to be just as lax in paying attention to what I've written as you claim I am. I've maintained all along that believing in Jesus, accepting Jesus, being baptized in water, and following the rules of the churches, is not the way to find salvation.Quote:
HeadStrongBoy: And as far as really seeking God, there is no time like the present to seek God. Salvation may still be found. Like it or not.
Dwashbur: Um, according to you, no it can't, because it's all preordained, predestined, presweetened and all that and there's nothing we can do about it. I'm glad you've seen the error of your ways.
ROM 10:9-10, 13 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
Ephesians 1:13-14
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 3:36
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. Acts 16:31
Let GOD be true and every man a liar. Bummer HSB:p
Not at all. The verses you've quoted come from the Bible. No doubt about that. But you've presented them in a way that slants your message in a certain direction. Talk about lack of balance!!Quote:
classyT said: bummer HSB
To be faithful to the whole Bible (the whole gospel) we must remember to include the warning about Judgment Day, May 21, 2011. Which is almost upon us now.
OK where EXACTLY in the Bible is this date given according to your false teachings??Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
I gave an answer to that question yesterday. Go to Member Discussions/Current Events on this forum, and look at the thread there.Quote:
450donn said: OK where EXACTLY in the Bible is this date given according to your false teachings??
I am faithful to the whole bible. I rightly divide it and put it into context. Something you simply cannont and will not do. If those verses I posted are not true, than Paul lied and the Lord Jesus lied. There ain't no slanting to it... good grief.It is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
I don't understand what your point is anyway. Even if you want to spout that poo concerning May 21,2011, What is it you want everyone to do? Because according to your doctrine of goofy demons, we can't come to the Lord Jesus anyway. We can't believe in him, we can't accept his finished work as enough... that isn't the way of salvation. So? Ok dooms day is May 21, 2011... SO? Big hairy deal. Que sera sera
Excuse me, but NOT !Quote:
classyT said: I am faithful to the whole bible. I rightly divide it and put it into context.
You do know some parts of the Bible. But you certainly do not understand God's plan of salvation at all.
You may think you're being faithful to the whole Bible. But you're not. You certainly have no harmony with the scriptures in Ephesians that tell about predestination. You certainly have no harmony with Exodus 31:13 that tells about a very important part of God's salvation. Those two specifics are just for starters. You also probably have no understanding of Judgment Day either. Else you'd be warning the world about it.
There's much more to being faithful to the whole Bible than just saying you are. Unless you can show harmony among all the various major contradictions (real or merely perceived), you do not have the truth. You merely have some bits and pieces here and there, that you've assembled into what seems to be acceptable to most non-thinking churchgoers.
Headstrong,
I said is that I rightly divide the word of truth. I'd rather be Christ conscience than self conscience. My faithfulness isn't what matters... it is all about HIM.
You didn't answer my question... What is your point? What do you have to offer HSB, according to your doctine if the world ends in May?
Time to ask a new question
Follow me to may 21,2011
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Originally Posted by southamerica
The bible says it is the goodness of God that makes man repent. So I agree with you.
Romans 2:4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realizing that God's kindness leads you toward repentance?
The only way to find God is to become truly humble. The Bible teaches that "He gives grace (grace is a synonym for salvation) to the humble, and He resists the proud."
Believe that Judgment Day will be May 21, 2011. Believing is obedience. And obedience is a sign of humility. It MAY BE that God will spare some of us.
Believing is NOT obedience! When we believe obedience follows as an action of our belief.
Ephesians wasn't written to the UNbeliever. It was written to the Christian. Predestination is not a term that is EVER used for the people who have never accepted the Lord Jesus Christ. It is NOT the gospel and shouldn't be preached as the gospel. The gospel is whosoever will may come. So sunshine, you are wrong yet AGAIN.
We are to humble ourselves before God. But that means acknowledging we have no power in an of ourselves to fix the separation between God and man because of sin. And to accept the perfect sacrifice and gift in Jesus Christ. THAT is how we humble ourselves.
It's not about any particular activity. Though Bible study and prayer are most excellent. God seeks those with a broken spirit and a contrite heart. He alone CAN see into a person's heart, mind, or soul. And God does command us to believe in Him, and He commands us to seek Him. But we are capable of only imperfect obedience. And all our obedience amounts to nothing more than "filthy rags." Even our very best efforts.Quote:
Triund asked: Am I seeking HIM in the right way or pushing my envelop?
But God has defined the parameters of the environment in which He does select some to be saved. That environment consists of two parts. One is the "hearing" of the word of God. Because "faith (faith is a synonym for Christ) cometh by hearing." And the other parameter is humility or obedience. Obedience is a sign of humility. But all of those efforts to enter the proper environment are still works on our part. And they (our works) do not guarantee our salvation at all. In fact they do just the opposite. Trusting our own works (efforts) to make us right with God guarantees that we will end up under the judgment and the wrath of God. That is what Exodus 31:13 and Numbers 15:33-36 is all about. Maybe I'll expound on the specifics of those passages another time.
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