Ask Me Help Desk - What Scripture verse show that Peter was the leader? Part (2)

Akoue,
I think you go that right.
He has been asked several time and dose not address the questions.
Fred

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Originally Posted by arcura

Tj3,
Address my whole post, PLEASE!!!
This thread is about Peter.
Are you or are you not gointo answer the questions asked of you?

I have answered all relevant questions.

Jesus is on earth. The Bible says that He alone is head of the church. I do not need anything else.

Apparently you don't like the answer. I cannot help that.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

It has been on this board dozens of time. The same people hijacking this thread hijacked many other threads for the same reason. I wonder why this small group fear a thread dedicated to the topic.

And I wonder why you won't answer the darn question. If it's already posted somewhere else then cut and paste, is that too hard for you?

Here we go round the mullberry bush. This is getting old Tom. :(

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Then starting a new thread should not scare you so much.

As I can see that you're so eager (not) to give us the answer, why don't you start it?

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Then starting a new thread should not scare you so much.

So you'll post pages of evasions because you don't want to "hijack" the thread--even though it's not hijacking because the OP and the rest of us want you to explain your claim--but you won't answer the question. That's pretty flimsy rationalizing. You can either answer the question or admit that you can't answer it. It's pretty clear that you can't answer it, so why not just admit it?

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

And I wonder why you won't answer the darn question. If it's already posted somewhere else then cut and paste, is that too hard for you?

Here we go round the mullberry bush. This is getting old Tom. :(

Well, I do not agree with hijacking of threads. This small groups seems to take pleasure in getting thread after thread shut down.

Then Akoue refuses to start a new thread because he says that it apparently is contrary to a policy by the mods and will be shut down. If it is not an issue on here, hijacking a thread, then it should be no issue in a new thread.

All the time wasted avoiding the issue by Akoue would be plenty of time to start a new thread. Something that he apparenly fears.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

As I can see that you're so eager (not) to give us the answer, why don't you start it?

Because it is a non-issue to me. Akoue seems to be the one who thinks that it is so important that he hijacks every thread that I post any message on.

Jj3.
Once aagain...
This thread is about Peter
Please address that AND answer the questions asked about your accusation concerning Constantine.
That is what the questions were about, not about Jesus.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Well, I do not agree with hijacking of threads. This small groups seems to take pleasure in getting thread after thread shut down.

Then Akoue refuses to start a new thread because he says that it apparently is contrary to a policy by the mods and will be shut down. If it is not an issue on here, hijacking a thread, then it should be no issue in a new thread.

All the time wasted avoiding the issue by Akoue would be plenty of time to start a new thread. Something that he apparenly fears.

Second verse same as the first, a little bit louder and a little bit worse!

Try again.

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Originally Posted by Akoue

So you'll post pages of evasions because you don't want to "hijack" the thread--even though it's not hijacking because the OP and the rest of us want you to explain your claim--but you won't answer the question. That's pretty flimsy rationalizing. You can either answer the question or admit that you can't answer it. It's pretty clear that you can't answer it, so why not just admit it?

Akoue, you know better. If you believed for a moment what claim, you'd be starting that thread. But you use the "mods will shut it down excuse" and instead hijack every other thread.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Well, I do not agree with hijacking of threads. This small groups seems to take pleasure in getting thread after thread shut down.

Then Akoue refuses to start a new thread because he says that it apparently is contrary to a policy by the mods and will be shut down. If it is not an issue on here, hijacking a thread, then it should be no issue in a new thread.

All the time wasted avoiding the issue by Akoue would be plenty of time to start a new thread. Something that he apparenly fears.

That's right, Akoue is the mean guy who expects you to back up your claims. You insist that others support their claims with evidence. Now it is your turn to do the same. You're trying to pick fights in the hope that you can wait out the closing of the thread. But this has gone on long enough that it's obvious to anyone reading that you like making dismissive claims about the Catholic Church but, when push comes to shove, you haven't the wherewithal to back up those claims. So prove me wrong: Give us evidence for your assertion that the Catholic Church was begun by Constantine in the fourth century.

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Originally Posted by arcura

Jj3.
Once aagain...
This thread is about Peter

Right and that is the point that I made.

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Please address that AND answer the questions asked about your accusation concerning Constantine.

I made no accusation.

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That is what the questions were about, not about Jesus.

So when you discuss who the head of the church is, we are to keep the name of Jesus out of it?

Tj3,
I do not want this thread to be shut down.
I was the one who started the threads about Peter because I wanted the answers and I still do.
So don't accuse me or others about shutting down this thread.

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Originally Posted by Akoue

That's right, Akoue is the mean guy who expects you to back up your claims.

But every time I do, you just come back and hijack another thread and do this all over again.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Because it is a non-issue to me. Akoue seems to be the one who thinks that it is so important that he hijacks each and every thread that I post any message on.

You know I’ve really got to question why a person would claim to have “the Light of the World” and then sticks said light under a basket. Let’s see how many lumens your light has, if any.

JoeT

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Originally Posted by arcura

Tj3,
I do not want this thread to be shut down.

That is why I am trying to Akoue to move the other topic off here.

Oh Tom, this is embarrassing, you're the only one that's believing your crap. Why don't you just give up already, admit that you cannot substantiate your claims and then we can move on. Is it that hard for you to admit you're wrong?

Page after page of you dodging and ducking.

Please read what we've all written, comprehend it, then either answer the darn question asked of you or admit that you can't.

I swear, if I read the word hijack again I'm going to get my whip. ;)

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Originally Posted by JoeT777

You know I've really got to question why a person would claim to have “the Light of the World” and then sticks said light under a basket. Let's see how many lumens your light has, if any.

JoeT

Ho hum - Fred just told me not to talk about Jesus, and you say that I am hiding the light under a basket.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

But every time I do, you just come back and hijack another thread and do this all over again.

But you haven't. As Altenweg has suggested, if you have answered it then it would be easy to cut and paste. I've been asking you to explain this assertion since November. You haven't done it. So here's your opportunity: You have an engraved invitation from us all. Now answer the question.

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Originally Posted by Akoue

That's right, Akoue is the mean guy who expects you to back up your claims. You insist that others support their claims with evidence. Now it is your turn to do the same. You're trying to pick fights in the hope that you can wait out the closing of the thread. But this has gone on long enough that it's obvious to anyone reading that you like making dismissive claims about the Catholic Church but, when push comes to shove, you haven't the wherewithal to back up those claims. So prove me wrong: Give us evidence for your assertion that the Catholic Church was begun by Constantine in the fourth century.

Wait a minute! Being the bad guy is my Job!

JoeT

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

I swear, if I read the word hijack again I'm going to get my whip. ;)

I like the cut of your jib, Alty. And I don't even know what a jib is.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Oh Tom, this is embarrassing, you're the only one that's believing your crap.

Right - me, Roman Catholic Cardinal John Henry Newman, numerous historians, both Catholic and secular, and hundreds of thousands or millions of others.

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I swear, if I read the word hijack again I'm going to get my whip. ;)

Hijack! :D

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Ho hum - Fred just told me not to talk about Jesus, and you say that I am hiding the light under a basket.

So, I take it you're the master of saying nothing in 10,000 words or more.

JoeT

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Originally Posted by Akoue

But you haven't.

But I have - we have had this discussion before. It has only been the last few threads that you hijacked that I have put my foot down regarding your tactics.

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Originally Posted by JoeT777

Wait a minute! Being the bad guy is my Job!

JoeT

Not anymore, I'm here. :D

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Originally Posted by JoeT777

So, I take it your the master of saying nothing in 10,000 words or more.

I have never seen such a concerted effort to avoid starting a new thread in my life. I am getting quite a laugh out of this.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

I have never seen such a concerted effort to avoid starting a new thread in my life. I am getting quite a laugh out of this.

And I've never witnessed a grown man squirming so desperately. It's funny to see how you behave when you are pressed to justify your claim.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

But I have - we have had this discussion before. It has only been the last few threads that you hijacked that I have put my foot down regarding your tactics.

Blah, blah, blah!

Hijacked, putting your foot down. Who do you think you are? God?

Boys, I believe that we've gotten our answer. Tom is pulling things out of thin air, has nothing to substantiate his claims and is now trying to (unsuccessfully) sidetrack us with talk of hijacking and tactics.

In other words, we're right.

So, carry on. :)

Tj3,
I did not ask you to talk about Jesus.
I asked you to talk about Peter and what you claim Constantine did.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Right - me, Roman Catholic Cardinal John Henry Newman, numerous historians, both Catholic and secular, and hundreds of thousands or millions of others.

But we're making it easy for you, Tom. Just give us YOUR evidence for the claim. You say you've studied all of this extensively, so it should be very easy for you.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/christ...ml#post1589400

Ok Tom - go for it! Here's your new thread

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Blah, blah, blah!

Hijacked, putting your foot down. Who do you think you are? God?

No, that was the last thread we have - some folk here (even some on this thread) claiming men become God. I was opposing that position.

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Boys, I believe that we've gotten our answer. Tom is pulling things out of thin air, has nothing to substantiate his claims and is now trying to (unsuccessfully) sidetrack us with talk of hijacking and tactics.

So using bullying tactics and violating the rules of the board makes you right?

That may be convincing to you,

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Originally Posted by Tj3

So using bullying tactics and violating the rules of the board makes you right?

That may be convincing to you,

No, I think the point is that your evasive tactics aren't convincing to us.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

No, that was the last thread we have - some folk here (even some on this thread) claiming men become God. I was opposing that position.

So using bullying tactics and violating the rules of the board makes you right?

That may be convincing to you,

Tom, I don't see your post on the new thread.

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/christ...ml#post1589400

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Originally Posted by Tj3

No, that was the last thread we have - some folk here (even some on this thread) claiming men become God. I was opposing that position.

So using bullying tactics and violating the rules of the board makes you right?

That may be convincing to you,

Blah, blah, blah. Too late, you had your chance to prove your position. In fact, we gave you page after page, post after post of chances to state your claim.

You didn't, so you, we're right.

I'm more than willing to hear your side of things, but as of yet, you haven't stated your side, so I can only conclude that you don't have anything to back you up.

As I said, continue boys. :)

Please, everyone,
Forget about Tj3 his run around tactic and get back to the subject of this thread.
Don't let him shut it down.
Fred

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Originally Posted by JoeT777

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/christ...ml#post1589400

Ok Tom - go for it! Here's your new thread

Great. Now Tom can just go to that thread and explain his claim that the Catholic Church was begun by Constantine in the fourth century.

I'll be checking in with some regularity. I'm sure Tom's exlanation will appear there in very short order.

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Originally Posted by arcura

Please, everyone,
Forget about Tj3 his run around tactic and get back to the the subject of this thread.
Don't let him shut it down.
Fred

If it gets shut down, it won't be me shutting it down. I was trying to keep it on topic by asking Akoue to stop hijacking it and start a nother thread to ask his question.

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Originally Posted by arcura

Please, everyone,
Forget about Tj3 his run around tactic and get back to the the subject of this thread.
Don't let him shut it down.
Fred

I agree Fred. But really, it was about time someone gave him a taste of his own medicine.

Now that there's a new thread there's no reason to continue the argument.

I'll leave you boys to the original topic.

Good luck.

Peace to you all. :)

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Originally Posted by Akoue

Great. Now Tom can just go to that thread and explain his claim that the Catholic Church was begun by Constantine in the fourth century.

I'll be checking in with some regularity. I'm sure Tom's exlanation will appear there in very short order.

That is a rather vague vague question. Entire volumes of books have been written on it, and it has nothing about your denomination. I thought that what you were asking was specific to your denomination. We'll see how the discuss goes.