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Originally Posted by Freethinka
As I keep saying, I am not here to argue with anyone (especially when it is to argue just for arguments sake) and I am not here to prove my faith to you or to make you believe in my faith.
I know I am not perfect but I know/believe God Almighty is perfect and that is enough for me to have faith in Him.
:) :) :)
To me, god is the one thing that's going right in my life!
In a life of depression, meaninglessness, no real future to look forward to, and a lot of hurt being carried around in my heart, god came into my life, and for the first time, there was something really worth struggling for! I went through crisis's of faith, pain, disapointement, but I still kept trying! Because I had realised that GOD IS WORTH IT ALL, worth all the pain, worth every struggle, worth every hurt, worth dying for!
So I kept trying. I sunk deeper into depression, and god lifted me out of it, suddenly, while I was worshipping, I began to smile. I started laughing, just out of nowhere, for no reason other than joy in god. I KNOW NOW THAT I HAVE PURPOSE AND MEANING AND A BRIGHT FUTURE.
And god is guiding me towards that future.
I was the kid who didn't really talk so good, but now, gods gifted me with a love of writing stuff, and hey someone from this site added me on msn to ask me "are you really 15? i dont believe it! you sorta inspired me!"
I went from wanting to kill myself, to telling others passionatly that their future is bright and that they can do anything.
And I'm still growing in god. I'm still learning. And I am going to do so much better with my life!
Cal, I have to say that your avatar reminds me of noodly appendages :).
You and I are similar. We have had a similar path in our early life. But I never found God, I found my own way out of the dire state that I was in, with the help of friends and family.
Did someone say noodly appendages? I should be offended, but instead, I will link something with "noodly appendages"
Flying Spaghetti Monster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yes that's right, THAT! Is in wikipedia.
Yes, that's what I was referring to. ;).
Of course it's in wikipedia, it's notable.
Lol, does cals hair really look like noodles? Really?
If so, I need to give him a new do
Well, blue noodles.
Aaaww dam... cal is crushed!
Next artwork I do, he's going to be crying!
There's nothing wrong with wishing to become one with the noodle...
Cal does not wish to become one with the noodle.
Anyway, I'm the artist, and I am in charge of cal. and I forbid him to become one with the noodle :P
NeedKarma likes the current Cal avatar. Pay no attention to the monkey on a recruiting mission. :)
I am not a follower of the noodle. In fact I cringe when he comes up in posts on this board. I was just pointing out what your avater reminded me of :)
Of course you cringe, because you know the back story as to why that deity was "discovered". :D
I'm much more fond of the Invisible Pink Unicorn (Blessed be her Holy Hooves). She's much less ridiculous, more noble, and fits the same purpose.
Lol, now needkarma thinks that I am talking about myself in third person
Thanks anyway karma :)
I still love you cal!
:) I love you all, hugs all around!
Lol
Would that mean that the godless are totally lacking in goodness? Or do we need to redefine what God is to make him less of a mathematical or semantic issue?Quote:
Originally Posted by modular01
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Morganite, you may be on the something: if one is an atheist then they do not have to worry about evil or satan - it becomes a non-issue!
As I said previously, god is beyong mathematics. You cannot explain him with 1s and 0s and tangenty cosiney things.
Just like you can't describe love with mathematics?
Exactly!
Mathmatics just makes the world smaller anyway.
So God is an emotion?
No. God isn't an emotion.
Though I guess he is the ultimate embodiment of love though, that's an emotion.
He a perfect being. Is that so hard to believe?
The answer is 'yes' by many people since it's pure faith in something unseen and unprovable.Quote:
Originally Posted by cal823
its not unseen completely though.
My mum chucked up hysterics about how I'm going to die from diet coke because she heard a chick on the news say these words
"Studies have shown that diet coke can increase the risk of developing diabeties"
she believed that because some random chick said some stuff.
Cal,
I have no idea what idea you were trying to convey there. Sorry.
I'm saying
"we believe what the media says, why can't we believe a book?"
Not a good analogy. No one believes everything the media says and if they are then they are a fool. But that is exactly what christianity wants us to believe - that the book is absolutely true and unerring.
By the way the study may have said that those who drink a lot of diet soda/pop may have an increased the risk of developing diabeties, but the message your mom told you was "you are going to die from diet coke" - see the problem there?
Well, my mum is quite a fool
But that's beside the point.
Whether you like it or want to believe it or not, society and the media is swaying opinions, moulding people.
Take music for example.
They can play songs on the radio, such as "Anarchist in the U.K" which sings about the antichrist.
But any song praising a loving god is never played on the radio?
Also, young girls are believing the medias and the societies expectations, and as a result suffer from anorexia.
And etc etc
Just for your information, your mum might be wrong about diabetes, but diet coke has been linked to other conditions. And you're in the most vulnerable age group. So she had a point, even if it was literally wrong.
So you're saying that the only reason that Christianity is not universally accepted is because of the media? You don't think there's something slightly wrong with that statement?
There clearly is something wrong with that statement. Many Christians follow the news and the media, but also follow God. I think that the reason Christianity is not universally accepted is because you msut rely on faith, not proof... and because we were raised to believe that proof is what is needed for truth, it's just something in our minds. Of course, there are some people who learn to have faith with time, but it has nothing to do with the media really.
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Originally Posted by Freethinka
I understand you said it in anger and frustration, but if you truly believe what you say about only fools believing, does that mean you are married to a fool, and does he/she know what you think of her/him?
Are you saying that only atheists are wise? If so how do you figure that one out? What is your scientific data for such a sweeping statement? Dearly to know that I would very much like.
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Freethinka, Morganite here is proof against your rule. He is a very wise believer.
Anorexia is almost always a response to personal situations. I have not come across any studies finding media styles at fault. It is much more profound in its etiologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by cal823
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Books are media. Books are written to persuade, and that includes all holy books.Quote:
Originally Posted by cal823
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True.. in a way......
I didn't say it is not accepted due to media.
I said that media tends to encourage atheism.
Too me, evolutionism is just another religion. So, why does are kids taught this belief in science class? Isn't the school system and the media meant to support personal choice in belief?
Kids are gullible, evolution in my opinion should be withheld, just like religions, until a person is old enough to make their owns choices in what they believe.
And gravity too? Newtonian mechanics should be withheld? How about the gas laws? Phase transitions should be withheld too? Oh and let's not teach them about the physics of color either. Anythign about enzymes? Selective breeding?
Lol. Once again. You have extrapolated from my words.
I said evolutionism, not science.
I reckon that once a person is in senior school, they can choose to either study evolution, one of the religions, a philophosy class, etc
Let them make their own choose of what to believe, instead of teaching them what to believe.
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