450donn,
You have well said what I would have said to neokafkaesque.
He skips the part that the city men wanted to have sex with the angels.
Also the other passages in the bible which clearly state that homosexuality is wrong.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

450donn, I'm not using the Bible to justify homosexuality, because, as I said, it doesn't have an opinion on the issue. Therefore, trying to condemn homosexuality with the Bible is equally wrong, which, by the way, you're doing. The length of my messages may have to do with rectifying short but extremely flawed assumptions and claims.

What am I citing that the Bible doesn't say? Could you clarify what it is you mean? Besides, the situation in the story is clearly that of gang rape, meaning that they were motivated by the imposition of power when the people gathered in front of Lot's house. Their actions, therefore, wasn't the manifestation of homosexuality but the need to humiliate by degrading the men as a gang.

Aside from that, you're the one ignoring the whole story here by ignoring the teaching of hospitality. By making the rape scene the point, which it isn't, you'd also have to take to account the following events. You're basically saying that the rape attempt was bad and sacrificing the daughters in addition to incest is right. You're the one ignoring the story.

neokafkaesque
Perhaps all the bible passages that have been posted here which clearly show that God thinks homosexuality is very wrong is being ignore by you or having no effect on you because you want to believe as you say about the bible, "it doesn't have an opinion on the issue".
Obviously there are many here who believe and know otherwise and have said so.
I believe that the bible clearly says that practicing homosexuality is very bad.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

arcura, you say I "want to believe" that the Bible has no opinion on the issue when - based on solid, objective logic - I KNOW it has no opinion. In fact, you're the one who's ignoring the Bible and distorting its message with a stamp of bigotry, which didn't exist in the Bible to begin with.

In short, even though you have no proof, you're response says the Bible condemns homosexuality just because YOU SAY SO. Besides, you're going pretty far as to say you know what the Almighty is thinking. Frankly, your "argument" is erroneous and asinine.

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