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  • Oct 8, 2007, 12:01 PM
    savedsinner7
    Jesus said you must love the LORD your God with all your heart, all your mind and all your strength; and you must love your neighbor as yourself. He also said we are to obey Him, Matthew 7:21
    [ True Disciples ] “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter.
    Matthew 7:20-22 (in Context) Matthew 7 (Whole Chapter)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tombb25
    To accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. period.

    Romans 8
    Life in the Spirit
    1 So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. 2 And because you belong to him, the power[a] of the life-giving Spirit has freed you[b] from the power of sin that leads to death.26 And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness. For example, we don’t know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words. 27 And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believers[l] in harmony with God’s own will. 28 And we know that God causes everything to work together[m] for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them. 29 For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And having chosen them, he called them to come to him. And having called them, he gave them right standing with himself. And having given them right standing, he gave them his glory.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -radioactive-
    Sweet Thanks So Much Everyone I'm Satrting To Get A Clue =]
    How do you find a church that will except you for who you are?
    I've been going to My families (sept mom) church for almost two years,
    and i love the people there, and the Word,
    but when i go there, i feel like someones always judging me =[

    Does the Holy Spirit move in your church? Do you have the Presence of God? The Bible says that by their fruit they shall be known. Is your life different with Jesus? Do you live every day for Him or for yourself? This is the difference between a Sunday Christian and one who is sold out for Jesus. This is how we will know if we belong to Him, or if we have placed Him in the box with us. He is the Creator manifest in human form to come to save the world, to bring Truth to the people and to judge the world. By our testimonies (our lives) we will be known. If we live the same as those around us who do not know Him, we are perishing just the same as they are. By dying to the flesh (our desires and ideas) and choosing to allow the Holy Spirit access to every part of ourselves we will be changed. It is only by the Holy Spirit living in us that we can know we have salvation. Truth does not depend on what we believe. Truth was established before the universe was created and it is only by Truth that we will be set free from the chains that bind us.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by alkalineangel
    You can't say this for fact though. I mean, everyone has different opinions as to what they believe in and wish to have faith in. Who is to say who is right? You can not point at one religion adn say they are the wrong ones, the unbelievers, any more than I can point at your religion and say so. What matters is that you have something you believe in. Something to put your faith into. It matters not whether we think the other is the wrong way to God...they believe it is the right way to theirs...and how can we judge them for that? God speaks to us all differently. just because someone may do or interpret things differently than you would does not make them less likely to get to God...They may look at the way you do and interpret things and think the same thing...I think it is safe to say that most Christian based religions all have the same basic founding concepts. they just have different ways of following them.

  • Oct 8, 2007, 01:27 PM
    deist
    It takes gullibility & naïveté to be a christian.
  • Oct 8, 2007, 01:43 PM
    savedsinner7
    It takes courage and strength to stand up to a culture that has rejected the LORD and to believe in Jesus when you are persecuted for believing.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by deist
    It takes gullibility & naivete to be a christian.

  • Oct 8, 2007, 06:20 PM
    fallen2grace
    Comment on tombb25's post
    Yup
  • Oct 17, 2007, 11:07 AM
    tatertot
    To be come a true Christian you must be born again. To be born again you confess your sin and accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior and choose to follow him. YOu can be babtized but if not it doesn't mean you are not a Christain. Being a Christian is all about having a personal relationship with Christ.
  • Oct 18, 2007, 02:19 AM
    superwario99
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -radioactive-
    What Does It Take To Be A Christian?
    So many churches say different things,
    and I want to know what your opinion is.

    Don't become a christian, your going to regret it, take my word and be strong
  • Oct 18, 2007, 02:21 AM
    superwario99
    Exzactly, people make their own christian religion, it has been fabricated I'm only hear as a waurner
  • Oct 18, 2007, 02:23 AM
    superwario99
    Don't become corrupted since the church is corrupted, choose islam
  • Oct 18, 2007, 01:45 PM
    labman
    Dig up a copy of the Apostles' Creed. I think all Christians accept it. Unfortunately, we disagree on everything else, and sometimes to our shame, we have killed one another over the details. Could somebody give me a book, chapter and verse where Jesus raised his hand against another man?
  • Oct 18, 2007, 03:46 PM
    MoonlitWaves
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -radioactive-
    What Does It Take To Be A Christian?
    So many churches say different things,
    and I want to know what your opinion is.

    I believe there is a difference in having the Christian beliefs and actually being a Christian. For example if I ask, what religion do your beliefs lie in? You answer Christian. That is having the same views, beliefs and agreeing with the Christian teachings. Doesn't necessarily make you a Christian, but someone who has the Christian beliefs.
    To answer your question "What does it take to be a Christian?"
    I think to actually "be" a Christian one not only believes the Christian teachings, but follows them. I think that when you are saved and begin your life's journey, trying to live as Christ did, you then become a Christian.
    You will find that when people ask, "Are you a Christian?", most of the time they mean, "Are you saved?"
  • Oct 18, 2007, 08:26 PM
    N0help4u
    Having a growing desire to walk closer and closer with God and learn from life's lessons to do just that.
  • May 6, 2008, 06:34 PM
    scottyv
    Comment on lfsxthnudie's post
    I agree, except it is not a cult... it is a sect.
  • Aug 8, 2013, 05:28 AM
    freeman4
    Many individuals call themselves Christian, but what is it that makes one a “ True Christian”? Is it just accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and that is it? Is there more to it than that? I want to show what a true Christian really is and what God has to say about this.




    First we need to go back to the beginning of all creation. When God made man and woman He put them in the Garden. God created man and woman for a purpose and that purpose was to have individuals who would eventually qualify for His coming World ruling Government. But our first parents really messed up.




    Then Entered a being that was cast out of Heaven for trying to over throw God and take over everything from Him. He to was in the Garden and he caused all kinds of trouble for the first man and woman and that was the beginning of the down fall of man. The World got so wicked that God had to destroy it by Water and then started everything a new.




    Laws were established for mankind to keep by God. He also had Statutes and Judgments that were to be observed as well. As in a past radio program I showed that the Law giver was the one who became Jesus Christ. Those He gave to be observed for ever, never to be done away with.




    Let us go through those.





    (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)


    1

    “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.


    2



    “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.


    For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.


    3



    “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.


    4



    “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter,


    nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.


    For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.


    5







    “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.


    6



    “You shall not murder.


    7



    “You shall not commit adultery.


    8



    “You shall not steal.


    9



    “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.


    10



    “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”





    To be a true Christian one must adhere to these Laws, these 10 Commandments and keep them as is taught. The fourth Commandment is the test Commandment and it has been desecrated and been spit upon by many who call themselves Christian. The Seventh Day is God's true Sabbath day and has been walked on by the majority of the people who claim to be Christian. People in many Churches have not been taught the truth and when it is presented as I am doing now, they scorn and laugh and say, how dumb can he be.




    When in reality they are the ones who are in the dark as to why they keep Sunday as the day of worship and not the 7 Th. Day Sabbath. People do not want to check for themselves to see if what they have been taught and observe may be Pagan in nature.No, individuals take for face value of what their Minister tells them never, checking to see if what they do is true..




    What about all of the days that are observed by individuals such as Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Valentines day and many more? Do individuals not realize that they are pagan in nature and that they all came from Pagan Rome traditions? The truth is, they do not because again they never check to see for themselves if they are to be observed or why they are. This World is completely in the sway of Satan and in his control. This includes the Churches of today. God is the soul Creator and He expects His Laws and all His Statutes too be kept as he directed.

    But Satan is the great counter fitter and he has counter fitted many Pagan days that claim to be of God.




    Are these true character signs of God? The answer to that is an astounding “no”. Do you really know where the days such as Christmas and others started?It is the responsibility of an individual to check on the reality of those days before it is to late to do so and before one is caught in a very serious trap.




    Notice

    Leviticus 23 is best described as, and is often called, the “Holy Day Chapter.”









    It contains a brief description of each of God’s seven annual Holy Days—also called Feasts or Sabbaths, which we will see are interchangeable terms throughout the chapter.

    And I know how people say that they are only for the Jews. But do we have a God who would give certain days for one group of individuals to keep and then give another group another set of days to be kept. That would be a very confused God to say the least. No, God gave ALL days for ALL individuals.





    Notice: Lev. 23:





    “And the Lord spoke unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them,





    Concerning the feasts of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations [commanded assemblies], even these are My feasts” (vs. 1-2).





    Verse 3 -introduces the weekly Sabbath, Saturday, as one of God’s Feasts:

















    “Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; you shall do no work therein: it is the Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.”













    Verse 4- introduces the rest of God’s Feasts: “These are the feasts of the Lord, even holy convocations, which you shall proclaim in their seasons.”

    Verse 5- reveals the first of God’s Feasts: “In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord’s passover.”

    Next, we see that the seven Days of Unleavened Bread are introduced.





















    On these days, beginning the day after the Passover, the Israelite's were required to eat unleavened bread: “And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord:





    seven days you must eat unleavened bread…in the seventh day is an holy convocation: you shall do no servile work therein” (vs. 6, 8). The first and seventh days are both Holy Days.

    Verses 9-22 -gives a more detailed description of the next Feast Day, called First fruits— This day was observed in the late spring. Now read: “…it shall be a statute forever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.













    What does forever mean. It does not mean a short while and then stop doing it? Forever from God means for Eternity.





    To come to Pentecost God said you shall count unto you from the morrow after the Sabbath, This is not a weekly Sabbath but a High Day sabbath after Passover,





    He said that seven Sabbaths' weekly Sabbaths shall be complete:










    Verse 21- explains that the Feast of First fruits is a commanded assembly and that it to was ordained by God to be kept “forever”:


















    And you shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you:
    you shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute forever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.”


    This passage includes a second emphasis by God about the permanent establishment of these days so that none can not misunderstand what “forever” means.


    Notice that Israel was to keep these days “throughout your generations” (also repeated twice). There are still generations of Israel alive on earth today and are to observe all of these “forever”.





    Yes, all of Gods Holy Days are to be observed today as commanded by God. But I hear people say, but we are not to keep those for they only for Israel. But I am going to tell you by the authority of God that we are to keep those Feast Days because we are part of the “Lost House Of Israel”. And only those to whom are called by God will understand and no other. God is only calling a very select few and only He will do the selecting of those individuals by opening their minds to His understanding. If you are being called you will be able to understand what is being said here. If one does not understand then they will not be part of the Elect of God because what is taught here has to be understood. I pray that God will open your mind to be able to see His truth because time is very shot.

    Prophetic News for America! - "To Warn a Dying Nation".
  • Aug 8, 2013, 07:20 AM
    N0help4u
    Churches are Man made doctrine. The Bible warns against traditions of Man. Seek God with all your heart in spirit and truth.. God is about spirit not religion
  • Aug 8, 2013, 09:06 AM
    classyT
    Freeman,

    What must I do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou SHALT be saved. ( saved = Christian)

    In Ephesians we are told that when we believed we were sealed with the Holy Spirit of Promise.

    The Law is what man can do for God. The Law demands from man.
    Grace is what God has done for Man.
    Grace supplies to man.

    For by GRACE are you saved through faith, not of works ( law) lest any man should boast.

    a Christian is a person who accepts Jesus as his savior by faith ALONE. He has the Holy Spirit living in him and little by little the Holy Spirit changes him to become more like our Lord Jesus Christ.

    I am so glad I live this side of the cross and I am willing to let Jesus change me day by day. BECAUSE in my flesh dwells NO GOOD THING. I can't improve my flesh.. it is what it is. It must die. Unfortunately, you believe in improving something that God judged and punished in the body of Christ 2,000 years ago.
  • Aug 8, 2013, 04:16 PM
    freeman4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    Freeman,

    What must I do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou SHALT be saved. ( saved = Christian)

    In Ephesians we are told that when we believed we were sealed with the Holy Spirit of Promise.

    The Law is what man can do for God. The Law demands from man.
    Grace is what God has done for Man.
    Grace supplies to man.

    For by GRACE are you saved thru faith, not of works ( law) lest any man should boast.

    a Christian is a person who accepts Jesus as his savior by faith ALONE. He has the Holy Spirit living in him and little by little the Holy Spirit changes him to become more like our Lord Jesus Christ.

    I am so glad I live this side of the cross and I am willing to let Jesus change me day by day. BECAUSE in my flesh dwells NO GOOD THING. I can't improve my flesh..it is what it is. It must die. Unfortunately, you believe in improving something that God judged and punished in the body of Christ 2,000 years ago.

    Why did Jesus say that there would be some that would be the " least" in the Kingdom of God. That would not qualify as others.
  • Aug 8, 2013, 06:48 PM
    dwashbur
    The "least in the kingdom" is still in the kingdom.
  • Aug 9, 2013, 04:05 AM
    freeman4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dwashbur View Post
    The "least in the kingdom" is still in the kingdom.

    You must really be sound asleep if you can not see our country falling apart at the seams. It does not take a rocket scientist to look around unless one is blinded by their own reasoning.

    Warning after warning is given in scripture and as it states that warning is falling on deaf ears. That is what I see here. A shaking of this Nation is soon coming and many will be caught with their head in the sand.

    Oh, but you say " God will handle this and nothing will happen". Well I can tell you that God is the one that is allowing this to be done and it being done to wake up a dying Nation.

    Need I say more because you would not understand anyway.

    I could give scripture after scripture but one would just say I made them up. The old saying goes, the proof in in the pudding, but no one here like pudding.
  • Aug 9, 2013, 12:00 PM
    dwashbur
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ;
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dwashbur View Post
    The "least in the kingdom" is still in the kingdom.
    You must really be sound asleep if you can not see our country falling apart at the seams. It does not take a rocket scientist to look around unless one is blinded by their own reasoning.

    Warning after warning is given in scripture and as it states that warning is falling on deaf ears. That is what I see here. A shaking of this Nation is soon coming and many will be caught with their head in the sand.

    Oh, but you say " God will handle this and nothing will happen". Well I can tell you that God is the one that is allowing this to be done and it being done to wake up a dying Nation.

    Need I say more because you would not understand anyway.

    I could give scripture after scripture but one would just say I made them up. The old saying goes, the proof in in the pudding, but no one here like pudding.

    It always fascinates me when people's answers so consistently have nothing to do with what I said. I repeat: the least in the Kingdom is still in the Kingdom; there's no indication that they are excluded because they're "the least." And none of it has anything to do with this rather peculiar view of the world/nation.
  • Aug 9, 2013, 01:03 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    What Does It Take To Be A Christian?
    The simple answer, to know Jesus.

    Quote:

    So many churches say different things,
    Yep, what does the bible say? Simple answer, Romans 10:13, "for everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."

    Quote:

    And I want to know what your opinion is.
    I believe Romans 10:13.
  • Aug 9, 2013, 02:31 PM
    freeman4
    So just say , Jesus I know you and then go have a picnic. Is that all there is.

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