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  • Sep 7, 2009, 07:00 PM
    cadillac59
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Christians do NOT want the earth destroyed.
    They just know it is inevidible.

    I warned people for 20 years that 9/11 was going to happen on Sept 11 01 or Sept 11 02 and everybody thought I was crazy. Did that mean I wanted it to happen????
    NOPE!

    You warned people? Right.
  • Sep 7, 2009, 07:05 PM
    N0help4u

    Yeah and I warn people about what is going to happen around 2015 -17 just as much.
  • Sep 7, 2009, 07:25 PM
    cadillac59
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    yeah and I warn people about what is going to happen around 2015 -17 just as much.

    You've got to be kidding.
  • Sep 7, 2009, 07:37 PM
    N0help4u

    Nope Not at all.
  • Sep 7, 2009, 07:38 PM
    cadillac59
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Nope Not at all.

    So there's no way to argue about it with you at all, is that it? You're just right and that's all there is to it?
  • Sep 7, 2009, 07:46 PM
    N0help4u

    I have been right so far. Maybe things I say will happen in 2015 -17 won't happen but if they do I will say I knew it.
    If they don't then it will be the first time I have been wrong about ''end time prophecies'' that I believe will happen and when.
  • Sep 7, 2009, 08:10 PM
    cadillac59
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    I have been right so far. Maybe things I say will happen in 2015 -17 won't happen but if they do I will say I knew it.
    If they don't then it will be the first time I have been wrong about ''end time prophecies'' that I believe will happen and when.

    Whatever (yawn).
  • Sep 8, 2009, 12:23 PM
    galveston
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Christians do NOT want the earth destroyed.
    They just know it is inevidible.

    I warned people for 20 years that 9/11 was going to happen on Sept 11 01 or Sept 11 02 and everybody thought I was crazy. Did that mean I wanted it to happen????
    NOPE!

    Not arguing with you, but I would like to know what you base your dates on?
  • Sep 8, 2009, 04:17 PM
    N0help4u

    Based my dates on what?

    Sept 11 DID happen 2001

    The prophecy I heard and told people about the guy told me that on some Sept. 11 the Twin Towers were going to be taken down and they would try for the Pentagon too and it happened.
    While other Christians were saying the rapture was going to happen by 2000 I was telling people that I believed 9/11 would happen in 2001 or 02.
    Now I am basing the dates on what I see happening in the news, prophesies and what I sense, which is what I have been doing all along.
    What I have been saying since 1976 is that the RFID chip would be mandatory by 2016 or 17 and the anti Christ will be revealed around that time.
    There is a lot more to it but that is the very basic.
  • Sep 8, 2009, 10:02 PM
    arcura
    N0help4u,
    Thanks much for that information.
    I, however, wonder about which anti-Christ that will be.
    As I understand it there will be several.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
  • Sep 8, 2009, 11:52 PM
    adam7gur

    tishrei: 7th hebrew month
    This year the month Tishrei starts at sunset of the 18th of September and goes on for 30 days.
    See what Tishrei is about!
  • Sep 9, 2009, 12:17 AM
    arcura
    Thanks Adam,
    This month is for to "make sure you are purged of all bitterness" among other things.
    I think that is good advice for every month or day.
    Bitterness is like hate it does great damage to the person who is bitter or hates.
    It's like an acid that keeps on destroying.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
  • Sep 9, 2009, 11:51 AM
    galveston
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    N0help4u,
    Thanks much for that information.
    I, however, wonder about which anti-Christ that will be.
    As I understand it there will be several.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred

    There have been many anti-Christs, but there will be THE ANTI-CHRIST who will fulfill end time prophecies.

    The most notable will be that he will subdue 3 governments out of the 10 government alliance of nations from within the old Roman Empire territory. He will then make a covenant with Israel. He will break it after 31/2 years.

    The signing of that particular treaty will signal the start of the 70th week Daniel was told about.

    As far as US troubles are concerned, judgment could indeed fall on this country without having anything to do with the Anti-Christ. Or even the 4 horsemen of Revelation.
  • Sep 9, 2009, 04:06 PM
    JoeT777
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maggie 3 View Post
    It is evil that is trying to bring this country down. We can stand by and watch or start praying and battle for our country.

    I am praying, everyday; that this country can survive the current administration.
    Quote:

    There are places on the net you can go to and pray with others. There is a president prayer site I have been going to that is very good. What I see going on is hate-talk that is growing almost out of control; people are paid to promote this. Who is going to stand up and battle this call to pray for our country and stop the evil and hate that is burning across this nation? God is the answer and I hope you hear the call to pray. Only through prayer can we tap into the limitless resources, of God.
    I'm one of those who disagree with the course that this administration has taken. I don't talk hate, nor am I paid for doing so. I hear the call to prayer, my prayers are that the freedoms we enjoy today will be present for our children tomorrow.

    Quote:

    Only by praying can we test the Lord's promise. "If you ask anything in my name, I will do it" John 14;14 In love for our country we must unite ourselves for the good of our country. Let us pray for the president and all elected, an appointed officials, that they will be able to carry out their duties, and do what is right for the country in a godly way.
    I'm praying that the current administration is voted out of office in the next election.

    Quote:

    When godly people are silent evil triumphs. This evil and hate must be stopped; it can affect every person and everything in the US. Prayer is power and sharper then a two edged sword, it will bring us together in power. Pray like your life and country depended on it, because it does. I am 78 yrs young, wife, a mother, grandmother, and great grandmother, their lives and your life and your love ones, depends on what we do, lets pray.
    It's true that when people are silent for too long, they find themselves governed by Czars, tax cheats, Marxists, and socialists.

    Quote:

    Heavenly Father, open our eyes
    Amen!
    Quote:

    and enlighten us to see the truth behind the evil
    Amen!
    Quote:

    And hate that is going on in our country. We seek Thy counsel, and put every problem facing this country in your hands, asking You to give us an answer. I believe you will
    And save us from this administration, Amen!
    Quote:

    put the desire in our hearts to seek your face in this time, in Jesus name, Amen !!!
    Amen! Amen!
  • Sep 9, 2009, 10:21 PM
    arcura
    JoeT,
    I pray for my country as you do.
    We need a new president who is moral, not one who is a radial supporter of abortions and same sex marriages.
    Fred
  • Sep 10, 2009, 09:56 PM
    Maggie 3
    Joe T and Fred, What do you think God's veiw is on these scriptures,
    Rom. 13, 1, Let every soul be subject to the governing authority, For there is no
    Authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
    Also read, Prov 8:15---- Dan 2:21-----Titus 3:1-----Acts 23:5


    Blessings, Maggie 3
  • Sep 10, 2009, 10:21 PM
    arcura
    Maggie 3,
    As for me I think it means exactly what it says.
    God is the authority; the ultimate authority; for His is the power, the kingdom, and the glory now and forever.
    There is no other.
    But I see no prophetic messages about the USA that I can trust to be accurate, for I do not KNOW of any that are from God for sure.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
  • Sep 11, 2009, 03:25 PM
    galveston

    Well, Maggie,

    When the government was wrong, the Apostles faced them and said that they (Apostles) had to obey God rather than man.

    We are under obligation to obey civil laws unless those laws are contradictory to the Law of God.

    I beleve that when we the people have the opportunity to have a voice in how our country is run, we are obligated to stand for what we see as right in the light of the Bible.

    To do otherwise is to accept a part of the blame for the sins of the government.

    Therefore, I will vote and speak out against anti-Christian programs and proposals.
  • Sep 11, 2009, 07:58 PM
    Maggie 3
    galveston, you are right, the christian is called to bear with the government wherever
    Possible. Jesus did not call for revolution against Rome, even though it was an
    Oppresseve conqueror of Isreal. On the other hand, the apostles refused to obey an
    Order not to preach and teach in Jesus name. Acts 5 :27-29 Whenever the civil
    Government forbids the practice of things that God has commanded us to do, or tells us
    To do, or tells us to do things He has commanded us not to do, then we are on solid ground
    In disobeying the government and rebell against it. I do think we should act respectfully
    And be careful not to let hatred takeover , that is from satan, and is an evil
    Act.


    Blessings, Maggie 3
  • Sep 11, 2009, 08:32 PM
    JoeT777
    I removed my comments --- They were Just too far off topic
  • Sep 11, 2009, 10:14 PM
    arcura
    JoeT,
    I am not an ultra liberal not a fanatic conservative.
    I am a moderate and a Christian with Christian morals.
    As such I agree with what the bible has to say about the poor, the widows, the children, and about fair trade and cheating practices.
    Some call that being a liberal, others as being a conservative.
    I consider it to be a moderate point of view and practice and not an extreme either way.
    It is the extremists I have trouble with.
    As far as Obama is concerned I believe he is a poor Chrsitian if one at all because of his immoral stand on abortions and same sex marriage.
    BUT there are some issues that he supports which I agree with such as food, shelter, and good health care for everyone in this richest nation in history.
    I believe that Jesus would support those thing as well.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
  • Sep 12, 2009, 01:01 PM
    JoeT777
    Fred:

    You must follow that great Spockean philosophy which says, “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.” Do you know the source? Who decides the needs, who decide the few, who decides the many?

    JoeT

    Edited message.
  • Sep 12, 2009, 02:01 PM
    Maggie 3
    There is too much hate and evil on this web site for me so Goodby.

    May the Lord Bless you with His Love, and fill you with Knowledge of His Will
    In all spiritual Wisdom and Understanding.

    Maggie 3
  • Sep 12, 2009, 10:06 PM
    arcura
    Maggie 3,
    Please do not go.
    We need you here.
    You have valuable knowledge, experience, and opinions to share as we have often seen.
    Please continue to share with us.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
  • Sep 14, 2009, 01:57 AM
    Clough
    Hi, Maggie 3!

    There is hate and evil no matter where you will go.

    People can choose to debate or not. That is purely a matter of choice...

    I agree with Fred. Please do not go from here. You're probably not going to find a more rich website with information and opinions as you'll find with this one. Plus, it's very well moderated and easy to use.

    One of the things about life is, it's about making choices. I've "butted heads" with many a person on this site. I've learned a lot from others on this site and it has helped me to know what I don't know as well as the things about which I could make improvement with myself and also concerning the opinions and responses that I give that I know are based on fact to people. Sometimes, I can be really off-base... As such, this site has helped to be a reality check for me.

    A person could go to any number of sites and just hear what they want to hear. What would be the value in that?

    Reasoning with others with different views, is an art that takes time, effort and practice. If a person goes somewhere where they only hear what they want to hear, then how will that give them the opportunity to teach and share what they believe, in order for others to possibly find out about another way, that might be beneficial to them and to all?

    We all make choices. We are not, and cannot be responsible for the choices that are made by others who are adults and legally and morally deemed to be fully responsible for the choices that they make.

    In short, we cannot be responsible for that which we cannot be responsible.

    Please do, continue to share on this site...

    God's Love and Peace to You!

    Thanks!
  • Sep 14, 2009, 06:06 AM
    classyT

    Maggie,

    I agree with Fred and Clough! Please stay.
  • Sep 14, 2009, 07:27 AM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maggie 3 View Post
    There is too much hate and evil on this web site for me so Goodby.

    May the Lord Bless you with His Love, and fill you with Knowledge of His Will
    in all spiritual Wisdom and Understanding.

    Maggie 3

    Maggie, your heart is full of love, and you were dealt this fullness of love and measure of faith according to what God knows you can handle. Never does God give us more then we can bear.

    I know in my heart you understand HIS plan. The gift of the spirit within is a tool in which God asked that you use it, to serve HIM in honour. To bring HIS fullness of love and faith in each planted seed of love and faith you speak of, and share with all that are on this web site..

    Many times I have felt the same wall that comes to block what is righteous, and in the spirit of love. A few times I have felt like leaving, and felt I was not meant to be here. But instead of walking away, use God's tool to knock the wall down.

    Remember in scripture how each were dealt a portion.. What was said to that one that saved his portion because of doubt. What is fruitfulness when it is put aside?

    Don't leave Maggie, you have much to continue in doing with what you were dealt by God.
    In love of Christ, and in sharing HIS love, think it over before leaving.
    {{{ I would miss you}}}

    ~in Christ

    Your love spoken and true as quoted

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maggie 3 View Post
    . When godly people are silent evil triumphs. This evil and hate must be stopped, it can effect every person and everthing in the US. prayer is power and sharper then a two edged sword, it will bring us together in power. Pray like your life and country depended on it, because it does.Love ans Blessings, Maggie 3

  • Sep 14, 2009, 08:09 AM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maggie 3 View Post
    I do think we should act respectfully
    and be careful not to let hatred takeover , that is from satan, and is an evil
    act.


    Blessings, Maggie 3

    Walk having the Spirit, and Praying always with all prayer and needed favour, in the Spirit, and watch over those that remain and hold stedfast, who are beloved of God, who have been called and who do follow HIS will. Amen

    Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
  • Sep 14, 2009, 09:54 PM
    arcura
    Clough
    Your Points are very will made and said,
    Thanks,
    Fred
  • Sep 14, 2009, 11:44 PM
    Clough
    Thanks, Fred!

    I appreciate that very much!

    Thanks!
  • Sep 15, 2009, 11:07 AM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoeT777 View Post
    Fred:

    You must follow that great Spockean philosophy which says, “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.” Do you know the source? Who decides the needs, who decide the few, who decides the many?

    JoeT

    Edited message.

    What was edited here Joe?




    here's an idea for the source: REFER
    "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one."

    John 11:49-52 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.



    Suppose Now, you can know Who decides the needs, who decide the few, who decides the many?



    Edited to include --> Off Thread
  • Sep 15, 2009, 12:11 PM
    JoeT777
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sndbay View Post
    What was edited here Joe?




    here's an idea for the source: REFER
    "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one."

    John 11:49-52 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.



    Suppose Now, you can know Who decides the needs, who decide the few, who decides the many?



    Edited to include --> Off Thread


    Not quite, wrong book, (In fact you may need a movie script) you’re not even in the same millennium. The philosophy has its founding in Epicureanism; good and bad are measured by what feels good or what feels bad. The concept was renewed by Samuel Benthamin the late-1700’s; "the greatest good for the greatest number of people,” (Bentham, Jeremy. The Principles of Morals and Legislation, 1789). Some believe that Utilitarianism is one of the roots of Marxism. This doesn’t sound very Christian to me.

    The quote “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one” is far more contemporary.


    JoeT
  • Sep 15, 2009, 12:51 PM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoeT777 View Post
    Some believe that Utilitarianism is one of the roots of Marxism. This doesn’t sound very Christian to me.

    The quote “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one” is far more contemporary.

    JoeT

    Then you would agree off thread and unrelated to religion or christianity.
  • Sep 15, 2009, 07:50 PM
    arcura
    Joe,
    I give up.
    I do not know.
    Except that who decides may change from time to time.
    What do you think?
    Fred
  • Sep 15, 2009, 09:47 PM
    Maggie 3
    Fred, Clough, Classy T, & Sndbay, Thanks guys, I'm back, I let my human nature
    Takeover and I gave in to my feelings. "I walk by faith not by sight or[feelings]"
    As a child of God I am being tranformed by the renewing of my mind. I must not
    let feelings pull me back into a carnal mind. As a saint I must discipline myself to obey Christ and bring every thought into captivity to discipline myself to God's
    Word. "2Cor, 10:5, "Casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself
    Against the knowiedge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience
    Of christ, [6] and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled."
    This is drawing on God's power.

    Love and Blessings, Maggie 3
  • Sep 15, 2009, 10:04 PM
    myessha1
    I am a preacher and prophet. I know all about visions and prophesying. I can tell you this, if God has shown you that and said that it is going to happen then you can put your life on it. When God says something is going to happen then expect for it to happen. There have been things God have shown me in dreams and visions of things to be in play and it happened.

    So that is what my opinions are.

    God bless!
  • Sep 16, 2009, 05:55 AM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by myessha1 View Post

    So that is what my opinions are.

    God bless!

    I would agree with you, we just all have to also agree on what God had to say about a prophet.

    Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, [but] the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

    `in Christ
  • Sep 16, 2009, 06:35 AM
    sndbay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maggie 3 View Post
    As a child of God I am being tranformed by the renewing of my mind. I must not let feelings pull me back into a carnal mind. As a saint I must discipline myself to obey Christ and bring every thought into captivity to discipline myself to God's Word.

    Yes Maggie, we that walk in the spirit of Christ must remember what Christ walked. And as scripture says dare not make ourselves a number, or compare ourselves to others. Because the measure in which each are giving is in accordance to God's will.

    We are not to look back on what was old but forward to the newness of our life in Christ. Because the old is the past and can't be change. But the the new is righteousness and in HIS image.

    Held to how Christ did humble Himself, we too must be as a humble child, in thankfulness of God's glory. Knowing that all souls belong to HIM, and HIS plan is under HIS control for each.

    (2 Corinthains 10:12 Matthew 18:4 )

    "Glad that you are with us"

    ~in Christ
  • Sep 16, 2009, 11:24 PM
    Maggie 3
    Thank you sandbay, you are a great help to me.

    Love and Blessings, Maggie 3
  • Sep 17, 2009, 12:20 AM
    adam7gur

    Maggie
    Thank you for standing against the enemy.It is good to know that we have one more soldier watching on our right!

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