Ask Me Help Desk - What Scripture verse show that Peter was the leader? Part (2)

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Originally Posted by Akoue

And I explained why: The mods delete or alter OP's on those sorts of topics.

So then you are trying to circumvent the rules of the board.

Tj3,
Yes, Jesus IS the head of The Church and He selected Peter to be the earthly leader of it.
You did not comment about this so I guess you did not read the evidence posted here by Rickj and others that was written and done long before Constantine was born.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

I don't have an account. I rely on history

Then tell us the history as you understand it.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

I don't have my version. I accept the truth.

Well then Tom, tell us the Tj3 Truth.

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Originally Posted by Akoue

Then tell us the history as you understand it.

Start a thread. If the mods don't want it discuss, then it would not be appropriate to discuss it here either. It sounds to me like you just want to try to hijack every thread with the same topic.

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Originally Posted by arcura

Tj3,
Yes, Jesus IS the head of The Church and He selected Peter to be the earthly leader of it.

Then your Jesus is not on earth?

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Originally Posted by Tj3

So then you are trying to circumvent the rules of the board.

I am asking you to give evidence for your claim, a claim RickJ has also indicated he would like to see addressed.

These little evasions of yours are completely transparent. It's obvious that you're afraid to answer. So in that case, why not just stop posting the claim? If you don't want to answer for the things you say, then don't say them.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Start a thread. If the mods don't want it discuss, then it would not be appropriate to discuss it here either. It sounds to me like you just want to try to hijack every thread with the same topic.

Tom, it's not hijacking if the OP is okay with it.

Are you beating around the bush again?

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Then your Jesus is not on earth?

Is yours? I'd like to meet him.

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Originally Posted by Akoue

I am asking you to give evidence for your claim, a claim RickJ has also indicated he would like to see addressed.

THen starting another thread would not be an issue.

The reason is that I am tired of seeing members of one denomination thinking that they have the right to hijack every thread.

Tj3,
YOU stared it here by posting about your version of Peter.If you want another Thread about the History of the Church why don't you start it?

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Start a thread. If the mods don't want it discuss, then it would not be appropriate to discuss it here either. It sounds to me like you just want to try to hijack every thread with the same topic.

Nope. I just ask you to substantiate the claim when you make it. If you don't want to have to substantiate it then stop making it. It's really easy.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Is yours? I'd like to meet him.

I'd like you to meet HIm

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Originally Posted by Akoue

Nope. I just ask you to substantiate the claim when you make it. If you don't want to have to substantiate it then stop making it. It's really easy.

I have - many times. But it is annoying when a small group keeps hijacking every thread over the same issue when it has been addressed many many times on this board.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

THen starting another thread would not be an issue.

The reason is that I am tired of seeing members of one denomination thinking that they have the right to hijack every thread.

As Altenweg points out, it isn't hijacking if the OP is okay with it, which he clearly is. So now that that's settled, you need have no further moral qualms about answering the question.

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Originally Posted by arcura

Tj3,
YOU stared it here by posting about your version of Peter.

I did not post my version of anything. I posted a quote from scripture which sys explicitly that Jesus, not Peter is the head of the church.

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If you want another Thread about the History of the Church why don't you start it?

I am not the one that keeps hijacking threads.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

I'd like you to meet HIm

Already have. :)

You know what happens when you assume, right?

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Already have. :)

You know what happens when you assume, right?

Then you know that He is on earth.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

THen starting another thread would not be an issue.

The reason is that I am tired of seeing members of one denomination thinking that they have the right to hijack every thread.

Do you want to hear a list of things we're tired of Tom? It's a long list.

You are the only one hijacking this thread. You refuse to answer questions asked of you that you claim you have the answers to. Because you don't, you start spouting off on hijacking the thread.

Either give us the answer or admit you don't have it. Those are your options.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Then you know that He is on earth.

No changing the subject. You owe us all an explanation: What evidence supports your claim that the Catholic Church was begun by Constantine in the fourth century?

You brought it up. So now back it up.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Do you want to hear a list of things we're tired of Tom? It's a long list.

You are the only one hijacking this thread. You refuse to answer questions asked of you that you claim you have the answers to. Because you don't, you start spouting off on hijacking the thread.

Ah, so now it is time to move from hijack to false accusations - kangaroo court next?

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Either give us the answer or admit you don't have it. Those are your options.

I have answered many times on many threads on here. I will answer again on an appropriate thread.

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Originally Posted by Akoue

No changing the subject. You owe us all an explanation: What evidence supports your claim that the Catholic Church was begun by Constantine in the fourth century?

You brought it up. So now back it up.

I mentioned a historical fact in passing. You are the one that hijacked this and many other threads with it.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Tom, it's not hijacking if the OP is okay with it.

Are you beating around the bush again?

The opening proposition of this thread had to do with Peter as the head of the early Catholic Church and to early Christian documents showing that precept. Consequently, it would seem to me if history could counter that precept then by all means I love to see it. I’ve never seen a re-write of antiquity. Who knows Tj may be able to reveal a Martian hidden under the cover of Greco-Roman world.

JoeT

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Originally Posted by Akoue

Then tell us the history as you understand it.

Well why don't you start the thread as you have been asked to do, and give us your history as you understand it then we can discuss it.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

I mentioned a historical fact in passing. You are the one that hijacked this and many other threads with it.

Fred and Joe and Alty have all asked you to answer it as well, and they don't seem to think I'm hijacking anything. You made a claim so substantiate it.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

Well why don't you start the thread as you have been asked to do, and give us your history as you understand it then we can discuss it.

Do it here. Put-up or shut-up as they used to say in the school yard.

JoeT

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Originally Posted by Tj3

I mentioned a historical fact in passing. You are the one that hijacked this and many other threads with it.

Tom, do you not realize that we're on to you? Can you really be that naïve?

Either fish or cut bait, but stop playing around. If you want, I'll start a new thread so that you can feel free to answer the question that was asked of you. Something tells me we still won't get an answer then.

We're tired of all your games, so give us the goods, we're all agog with anticipation.

Tj3,
I and others here agree that Jesus is the supreme head of The Church.
That Is NOT what this thread is about.
It is about who is the earthly leader of The Church, namely Peter.
He is the one mentioned in the threads first post.
So either address that and answer the questions you've been asked.
I would like to see your answer to what you claim about Constantine as others have asked about.
Yiu say you posted about that befoe, Fine
Then it should be easy for you to do so again for those who asked.
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Originally Posted by Tj3

Well why don't you start the thread as you have been asked to do, and give us your history as you understand it then we can discuss it.

Nope, the onus is on you Tom.

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Originally Posted by arcura

Tj3,
I and others here agree that Jesus is the supreme head of The Church.

Good. Then that is the end of the story.

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That Is NOT what this thread is about.
It is about who is the earthly leader of The Church, namely Peter.

Is your Jesus not on earth?

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Nope, the onus is on you Tom.

No, it isn't. Just because Akoue disagrees with history and even historians and leaders of his own denomination, and feels the need to hijack a thread as a result does not put the onus on me to help him.

Tom, we're still waiting...

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Tom, we're still waiting.......

You can wait... let me know when the new thread is started.

Tj3,
What kibd of question is that?
My Jesus is everywhere.
But the subject here is Peter as mention in the first post on this thread.
Are you going to answer the questions asked of you about your Constantine claim or not?

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Originally Posted by arcura

Tj3,
What kibd of question is that?
My Jesus is everywhere.

Then He must be on earth also.

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Originally Posted by Tj3

No, it isn't. Just because Akoue disagrees with history and even historians and leaders of his own denomination, and feels the need to hijack a thread as a result does not put the onus on me to help him.

You claim to have proof, so show it to us. That's all we want Tom.

You must not have a lot of faith in your "truth", why is that?

And once again, it's only hijacking the thread if the OP isn't okay with it. Read back, the Op wants to hear what you have to say also. So stop playing the hijack card!

Tom, your runaround games won't work anymore, the proof is in the pudding, show us the pudding.

Tj3,
Address my whole post, PLEASE!!
This thread is about Peter.
Are you or are you not gointo answer the questions asked of you?

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Originally Posted by Tj3

You can wait .... let me know when the new thread is started.

So you've got nothing.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

You claim to have proof, so show it to us. That's all we want Tom.

It has been on this board dozens of time. The same people hijacking this thread hijacked many other threads for the same reason. I wonder why this small group fear a thread dedicated to the topic.

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Originally Posted by Akoue

So you've got nothing.

Then starting a new thread should not scare you so much.