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  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:33 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Of course, I don't know how someone could masturbate and not lust... but maybe that's a different discussion..
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:34 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blinking View Post
    he won't go see a doctor or counselor for marriage advice. This whole situation is making me unhappy with my life.

    Then you go to a counselor, or keep going to one if you are already. There are ways to encourage him to go too.
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:36 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hauntinghelper View Post
    Of course, I don't know how someone could masturbate and not lust...but maybe that's a different discussion..

    Is lusting for chocolate okay?
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:38 PM
    Curtis Wilson
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    No, this isn't the point of the post. OP wanted to know if masturbating is a sin. You are turning the topic around to match your religious outlook.

    The word god is not being discussed in this thread.

    Maybe I am wrong here, but is not sin defined by the Word of God?
    Are you guys for real!! Can not you even distinguish between right and wrong?
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:40 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curtis Wilson View Post
    Maybe I am wrong here, but is not sin defined by the Word of God?
    Are you guys for real!!! Can not you even distinguish between right and wrong?

    What do you believe and why? (be brief, please)
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:40 PM
    Curtis Wilson
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hauntinghelper View Post
    Of course, I don't know how someone could masturbate and not lust...but maybe that's a different discussion..

    You can't
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:45 PM
    Curtis Wilson
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    What do you believe and why? (be brief, please)

    Any one who looks at a woman or man and lusts after them is guilty of comminting adultry. Weather its by seeing or thinking.

    Mat 5:28 But here is what I tell you. Do not even look at a woman in the wrong way. Anyone who does has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

    Curtis
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:47 PM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curtis Wilson View Post
    Any one who looks at a woman or man and lusts after them is guilty of comminting adultry. Weather its by seeing or thinking.

    Mat 5:28 But here is what I tell you. Do not even look at a woman in the wrong way. Anyone who does has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

    Curtis

    This post is not about adultery
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:48 PM
    Curtis Wilson
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    This post is not about adultery

    Is adultry sin? And if it is then lusting after a man is adultry
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:49 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curtis Wilson View Post
    Mat 5:28 But here is what I tell you. Do not even look at a woman in the wrong way. Anyone who does has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

    She's not looking at a woman in the wrong way, nor is she committing adultery.
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:54 PM
    Curtis Wilson
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    She's not looking at a woman in the wrong way, nor is she committing adultery.

    Come on, this is not rocket science here. You do not want to tell someone they are not sinning when surely are. Lusting after a man or woman it makes no difference it is sin.
    The lady even says it worries her... that means her conscience is working like it should. Our conscience helps us to know the difference between right and wrong!

    Curtis
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:55 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curtis Wilson View Post
    Come on, this is not rocket science here. You do not want to tell someone they are not sinning when surely are. Lusting after a man or woman it makes no difference it is sin.

    She did not state that she is lusting after anyone.
  • Mar 7, 2013, 08:59 PM
    Curtis Wilson
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    She did not state that she is lusting after anyone.

    " I decided to masturbate by looking pornography "

    Is this good?
  • Mar 7, 2013, 09:02 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curtis Wilson View Post
    " I decided to masturbate by looking pornography "
    Is this good?

    Still doesn't mean she is lusting. :)
  • Mar 7, 2013, 09:14 PM
    Curtis Wilson
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Still doesn't mean she is lusting. :)

    All this lady needs is to hear the truth that what she is doing is wrong, and that there is forgiveness. Which I can guarantee she already knows that. There is power in prayer. Comfort and strength which comes from hearing some one telling her the truth.
  • Mar 7, 2013, 09:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curtis Wilson View Post
    All this lady needs is to hear the truth that what she is doing is wrong, and that there is forgiveness. Which I can guarantee she already knows that. There is power in prayer. Comfort and strength which comes from hearing some one telling her the truth.

    Why fill her with guilt for doing something (masturbating) that is not forbidden by the Bible? That is a sin, to deliberately mislead someone. And women don't lust when watching porn. Women view and internalize porn differently from men. Of course, if Johnny Depp is in the porn movie, I might do a bit of lusting, but generally that is not how our minds work.
  • Mar 7, 2013, 09:21 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curtis Wilson View Post
    All this lady needs is to hear the truth that what she is doing is wrong, and that there is forgiveness. Which I can guarantee she already knows that. There is power in prayer. Comfort and strength which comes from hearing some one telling her the truth.

    The truth according to whom? You? That's your truth, that doesn't make it fact. You need to learn that your opinion is just that, your opinion. Fact doesn't enter into it, and there can't be truth without fact.
  • Mar 7, 2013, 09:23 PM
    Alty
    To the OP. There are two types of people in the world. Those that masturbate, and those that lie about masturbating. So, if you're sinning, so is everyone else. Babies masturbate. Do they know that that's what they're doing? No. But they know that it feels good, so they do it. I very much doubt that any God worth worshiping would create pleasure, and then deny you that pleasure.
  • Mar 7, 2013, 09:39 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Looking at the porn would normally be considered a sin by many religious groups, the masturbation would not be.

    His refusal to have sex with you for 7 years would be considered a sin also.
  • Mar 8, 2013, 12:04 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    This is a place to answer the posters question,

    We will not get into fighting among answers,
    Two people may answer and those answers do not agree.
    We will not attack each other.

    I am sickened by people claiming ( and I doubt those claims) to be Christians and attacking others. Reminds of Satan using God's word in the Bible. Merely knowing the bible does not make a person a question, it is living that life.

    To the OP, Most people misquote scripture all the time, they don't see it in the historic or literary context.

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