I think that 21-year old bit applies more towards guys than girls. I know plenty of girls that are in their 20s and have not done it.
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I think that 21-year old bit applies more towards guys than girls. I know plenty of girls that are in their 20s and have not done it.
Yes I mean guys more then girls, as a whole I think girls find it harder to do then guys, More time consuming... :p
Would this not be on the same level as a woman's menstruation being unclean? Both are something that are natural. There's a separation between mast. And lust. People may think they're inseparable, but you can mast. Without lusting. It's a bodily function.Quote:
Originally Posted by saintjoan
I don't think so a woman's period is natural yet masturbation isn't. A woman's period is a way of cleaning her body out yet masturbation is just a way to relieve sexual urges. God meant for man and woman to be whole and not to lust after one another. Most men when they masturbate are lusting after another.
That's why I said that lust and mast. Are not inseparable. We can learn to separate the two. I think the trouble is that there's such a proliferation of porn that young people learn to lust.Quote:
Originally Posted by angel0772001
I think your being a bit sexist aren't youQuote:
Originally Posted by ISneezeFunny
Imagine a country where you could fill a room by simple bringing a covered plate onto the stage and then slowly lifting the cover so as to let everyone see, just before the lights went out, that it had contained a steak.
Wouldn't you think that in that country something had gone wrong with the appetite for food?
And wouldn't anyone who had grown up in a different world think there was something equally weird about the state of the sex instinct among us?
You find very few people who want to eat things that are really not food or to do things with food instead of eating it. In other words, perversions of the food appetite are rare.
But perversions of the sex instinct are numerous, hard to cure, and scary.
I think masturbation is fulfilling the lust of the flesh. Jesus told us to walk in the spirit so that we won't fulfill the lusts of the flesh. In the natural it seems like a natural thing to do because we all get... well the "feeling". I believe that's one reason Paul said in Ephesians that it's better to marry than to burn. Also, the body knows when it needs to release and will do so by itself in dreams and sometimes when we least expect it.
If spilling your seed without intention to have a baby is a sin, then married couples would be sinning every time they had sex and their intention was NOT to conceive. No, I don't think masturbation is a sin. I think God has bigger fish to fry than to concern himself with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by D_Rad2003
The Catholic Church teaches that this is so. That is why they teach that contraception of any kind is wrong. It seems they have made some concessions with the calendar method though.Quote:
Originally Posted by cozyk
He was pointing out that if you take the Leviticus passage about masturbation to be declaring masturbation a sin, then you must also take menstruation to be a sin.Quote:
Originally Posted by angel0772001
Leviticus 15:19-30
And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she shall be unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness.
Leviticus 20:18
And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.
Ezekiel 18:5-6
But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right, and hath not... come near to a menstruous woman...
Agreed that this is a teaching of the Catholic church, but I see nothing in scripture which would prohibit use of contraception. Devices or medications which cause abortions are a different matter because they kill a child.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrLang
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