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Originally Posted by simoneaugie
DeMaria, Christianity, by it's very tenants, invalidates any view other than its own.
For one thing, the woman that is the subject of this discussion is a Christian. Therefore her views are the Church's views.
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There is no arguing with that.
For another, there is plenty of arguing with that.
First of all, the woman in question is a Christian therefore the argument you are presenting has nothing to do with this discussion.
Secondly, neither I nor the Church invalidated this woman's views or concerns. In fact, I commend her for the way she has lived her life and my opinion rests completely on Church teaching.
Thirdly, you seem to be concerned that Christianity invalidates "other views". But are you equally upset when people with "other views" object and attempt to invalidate Christian views?
And finally, are you not attempting to invalidate my Christian view in this very discussion? After all, I originally addressed the OP, not you. So why did you object to what I said? And after objecting to what I said, did you expect that I would not respond?
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Frequently, Christians (not saying you are)
Thanks.
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are rude and "all-knowing, quoting what they believe is the truth.
Please explain. Are you saying that when a Christian quotes what he believes is truth he is rude? What about when a non-Christian quotes what he believes is truth? Is he also being rude then?
Or have I misunderstood your point?
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I did not attack Christianity.
Did I say that you attacked Christianity?
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I did not attack your beliefs.
Did I say that you attacked me?
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I just told you what I saw.
True. Lets review. I posted a response to the OP. You addressed me and disagreed with my response. And I responded to what you said.
I don't feel as though you attacked me. But I believe I have the right to address your objections. Fair enough?
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Lack of feeling like a perfect child of God is the woman's trouble. I see the problem as based in Christian teachings. It may not be.
Obviously, I don't believe the woman has a problem at all. I believe she is a predestined child of God.
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You asked, "So, which is it? Are you ignoring the truth or not?" I explained that. We disagree on the Bible being the truth.
Correct.
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The whole point is to answer the OPs question. Have we done that?
I thought I did. And the OP seemed to agree. He said:
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lobrobster agrees: Excellent post! Thanks!
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Asking questions like "so is ignoring the truth your solution" or, "So, which is it? Are you ignoring the truth or not?" These questions are assumptive. They are asked, possibly, because you are convinced that the Bible is the Truth. They come across as judgemental and mean.
Yes, I do believe that the Bible is the Word of God and therefore the Truth.
Apparently, the OP, to whom the first question was addressed did not see itas mean. And they weren't intended to be mean. They were intended for clarification. This is what you said:
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Actually, yes. I am, although ignoring it is not exactly what I'm doing.
First you said you were ignoring the truth and then, "not exactly". I think the answer is important to the discussion, don't you? Therefore, I believe you should have answered the question, so I asked for clarification. That's all.
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Anyone who does not believe in the bible is an idiot, or ignorant? They deserve to be put down? They are unworthy of your love and acceptance?
Did I say that or did you? If I said that, please quote me.
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I apologize that my post has digressed from the original question.
I'm not the one to whom you should apologize. As for me, I think you and I are having a polite debate. I don't mind having polite debates with anyone.
Sincerely,
De Maria
