Ask Me Help Desk - The law of non contradiction

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Originally Posted by Choux

Christianity is a religion, a faith; religion is based on *emotion*, not of rationality or facts.

Christianity is for comfort, not for logic class, if one can find comfort in any religion where the supreme God Almighty will torture human beings for **eternity**. :)

Your opinion is ignorance and bad. Make a statement. Argue it.

Tom

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

That goes both ways of course. Suffice it to say that there is no evidence as you would have others believe, it's all about faith.

Gods Word is evidence.

Tom

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

That website is quite inane, I'm not sure why you chose it as a resource...Why did you want people to visit that site again?

LOLOL, of course it's inane, just like the 'logic' I see from skeptics. That's the point :D

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Originally Posted by Capuchin

I think he wanted to make fun of skeptic arguments (poorly). Just click a few link in here (from the same site) if you want a laugh:

Index of /guest

I can highly recommend the first few paragraphs of truthfulness.htm for a good laugh!

As opposed to what? I think this would be a better place to start.

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Originally Posted by Toms777

God's Word alone proves Christianity.

Tom

Isn't that circular reasoning?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

As opposed to what? I think this would be a better place to start.

Yes, that site is indeed a good laugh. Thanks! :)

The way I understand opposite particles is opposite in state.
Like elctrons and positrons.
Or opposite in spin.
Steve

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Isn't that circular reasoning?

I agree MY SCIENCE THESIS GENESIS 2# proves the law of contradiction not christianity.
The bible alone gives a consistent non contradictory account of origins creation ex-nihilo something out of nothing which cannot be expressed as an equation.
Steve

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Originally Posted by aircloud

why do others think the law of non contradiction proves christianity wheras irrationality does not

The Little red schoolbook: How to take a holiday(break) from college evolutionary teaching
Four spiritual laws of creation science

1/There are a million and one reasons to believe evolution.
2/There are a million reasons to believe creation.
3/You have to choose the million reasons to believe creation.
4/ You have to WANT TO BELIEVE CREATION.

Five laws of the scientific method…………

1/ Creation is a science not just a religion.
2/ Evolution is a religion not just a science.
3/ There is scientific evidence that supports creation as well as scientific evidence that supports evolution.
4/ Intelligent design is an empirical science not a religion.
(The bible is left at home.)
5/People ought to know what they believe and the reasons and what they do not believe and the reasons not.
10/ EVERYONE KNOWS THE CLAIM THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT CREATION IS FALSE.

THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE BLUE TONGUE SKINK.
The Holy Spirit is like a blue tongue skink that lives in a spiders burrow.
The blue tongue skink eats the spider in it's palace and sits on it's throne to become king of the palace.The palace is the human soul.
And the Holy Spirit is the King of the Human Soul.
You need to get the wrong man out (spiderman) and the right man in (jesus).
A thief pleaded not guilty to stealing even though he admitted that the video showing him take the watch out of the handbag looked bad.
We are all like that thief we plead not guilty to breaking the ten commandments but the evidence is against us.
We need to plead guilty and then Christ the just judge will exhonerate us.

CREATE AN INTEREST IN THE GOSPEL Category... EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A VERDICT...
Appedix to the ten laws some of the scientific evidence for and against evolution.
Four reasons to believe theistic evolution.
1/ Proper science proves the world began with a big bang 3.5 million years ago.
2/The speed of light bieng a constant and the distance of the stars prove there was time enough for evolution.
3/Chance is a process controlled by laws of chaos theory.
Chaos theory means there is order in randomness created by God.
4/Evolution is the mechanism God used to create.
Four reasons to believe creation science.
1/The lack of intermediate forms in the fossil record.Darwin said this proves him wrong.
2/The earth is too young for evolution.
One example is the rotation of the earth is being slowed by the moon it has not slowed enough for the earth to be old.
3.Monkeys have 99% of human genes but so does a banana so similarity doesn't prove anything.
4/Geology does not admit into evidence a worldwide flood.
Since the flood is an historical event recorded by all people groups uniformatarian geology must be wrong if it excludes it.
Four reasons to believe in ID.
1/Irriducible complexity example the flagella like a mousetrap it cannot work without all of it's parts.
2/A watch found in a field can be assumed to have a designer.
3/The Greek Philosophy of ID is opposite to the philosophy of the atomists which led to atomic theory.
Both theories are scientific and empirical and do not depend on interpreting the bible or other religious books.
Note:Tradition isn't all bad.
Because of our traditions every one knows who he is and what God expects him to be

HERE IS PROOF FORUMULATED AS TEN LAWS.
IAM MINI MOSES OR BIG TOE KEV IAM EXCITED ABOUT THE GOSPEL

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Originally Posted by aircloud

The bible alone gives a consistant non contradictory account of origins creation ex-nihilo something out of nothing which cannot be expressed as an equation.
Steve

You mean "let there be light"? LOL!

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Originally Posted by aircloud

1/There are a million and one reasons to believe evolution.
2/There are a million reasons to believe creation.

Since evolution has one more reason, we should believe in that right? :p

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Originally Posted by aircloud

The way I understand opposite particles is opposite in state.
Like elctrons and positrons.
Or opposite in spin.
Steve

What about neutrons?

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Originally Posted by Toms777

Your opinion is ignorance and bad. Make a statement. Argue it.

Tom

She is welcome to her opinion, but I agree that that unless she can defend it, it means nothing.

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Originally Posted by Toms777

Gods Word is evidence.

Tom

Dear Tom,
The law of non contradiction is the foundation of all logic.
To prove it we need to argue that we pretend to believe it.
That what My Science Thesis-Take Einstein to Infinity does and it is avialable on Amazon.
It is also called GENESIS 2# Hamlet without the Prince.
We pretend to believe in the law of contradiction that the laws of physics did not apply before the big bang.
And we have proven that they must apply to creation ex-nihilo even from the very beginning.
That means we have two models.
And unlike the bible we can program Genesis 2# into a supercomputer and get answers.
This constitutes evidence in a court of law.
It is a written contract rather than a handshake.
Stephen

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Originally Posted by Capuchin

Since evolution has one more reason, we should believe in that right? :p

Wrong we should want to believe creation since evolution offers us no comfort or hope.
It is pascals wager.
We should bet on the fact God is true.
He deserves the benift of the doubt.
Steve

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Originally Posted by hepzibah

Wrong we should want to believe creation since evolution offers us no comfort or hope.

Science cares not about your comfort and hope, it deals with the observable evidence. If you need comfort and hope then please don't mix that with science.

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Originally Posted by hepzibah

Dear Tom,
The law of non contradiction is the foundation of all logic.
To prove it we need to argue that we pretend to believe it.
That what My Science Thesis-Take Einstein to Infinity does and it is avialable on Amazon.
It is also called GENESIS 2# Hamlet without the Prince.
We pretend to believe in the law of contradiction that the laws of physics did not apply before the big bang.
And we have proven that they must apply to creation ex-nihilo even from the very begining.
That means we have two models.
And unlike the bible we can program Genesis 2# into a supercomputer and get answers.
This constitutes evidence in a court of law.
It is a written contract rather than a handshake.
Stephen

The truth is that logic doesn't work. That proves your foundation for logic is wrong. If logic worked it would be taught in schools.

TOM

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Originally Posted by Toms777

If logic worked it would be taught in schools.

Not sure what school you went to but here we learn math.

Logic is a very useful tool, but you can make some pretty absurd, yet completely logical statements. It certainly isn't the be-all and end-all, but it certainly is a subject worthy of study.

Here's why you have to apply logic carefully:

It's called the raven paradox:

We make an initial argument (whether true or not):
1. All ravens are black.

It logically follows that:
2. All non-black things are non-ravens.

Following so far? Good. Now, the problem comes when we try to verify these logical rules in the real world. If we see a black raven, we can see that that makes argument 1 stronger, it is confirmation of our initial assumptions

Now how about if we see a red apple? This confirms rule 2, it is non-black and is a non-raven. However, because arguments 1 and 2 are logically equivalent, seeing a red apple also confirms argument 1.

I'll state that again. It is logical that seeing a red apple confirms that all ravens are black. Now, common sense tells you that this is tosh.

There's more on the history and discussion of the paradox here: Raven paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia