Ask Me Help Desk - Could Jesus have sinned?

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Originally Posted by De Maria

You're thinking of Jesus as though His Divinity is separate from His humanity. But His humanity was always subject to His Divinity.

I don't agree. I've always heard they were co-existent, in equal measure.

And Mary wasn't the mother of God.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I don't agree. I've always heard they were co-existent, in equal measure.

You can't measure Divinity. You are either Divine or not. Jesus wasn't a piece of God. Jesus is God.

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And Mary wasn't the mother of God.

If Jesus is God. Then Mary is the Mother of God. Because Jesus was God from all eternity. And God humbled Himself to be born of a woman.

God passed through Mary's birth canal and was born.

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Originally Posted by De Maria

You can't measure Divinity. You are either Divine or not. Jesus wasn't a piece of God. Jesus is God.

When Jesus was born and while He walked this earth, He was both God and man, in equal measure. He was unique, and a mystery.

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If Jesus is God. Then Mary is the Mother of God.

Jesus was both God and man. Mary was Jesus' (not God's) mother. Upon Resurrection, Jesus assumed the fullness of His God-ness.

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God passed through Mary's birth canal and was born.

Good grief!

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

When Jesus was born and while He walked this earth, He was both God and man, in equal measure. He was unique, and a mystery.

The mystery is that God would become man. But that doesn't mean that God equals man.

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Jesus was both God and man. Mary was Jesus' (not God's) mother. Upon Resurrection, Jesus assumed the fullness of His God-ness.

Yes, Mary is God's mother. God was carried in her womb, God was born of Mary, God sat on her knees and suckled at her teat. God, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity was Mary's little boy.

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Good grief!

What? That's what happens when children are born.

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Originally Posted by De Maria

The mystery is that God would become man. But that doesn't mean that God equals man.

The state of Jesus Christ was divine, yet he did not cling to equality with God but emptied himself to assume the condition of a slave, and became as we are: and being as we are, he was humbler yet, even to accepting death, death on a cross.. . (Philippians 2:6-11)

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Yes, Mary is God's mother.

Mary was Jesus' mother.

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What? That's what happens when children are born.

I missed that part and used Lamaze. (P.S. We don't suffer "grief." They're called contractions.)

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

The state of Jesus Christ was divine, yet he did not cling to equality with God but emptied himself to assume the condition of a slave, and became as we are: and being as we are, he was humbler yet, even to accepting death, death on a cross.. . (Philippians 2:6-11)

That doesn't address the question Wondergirl.

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The mystery is that God would become man. But that doesn't mean that God equals man.

Divinity is greater even then all men combined. Divinity is that God in whom we live, breathe and are. Divinity is not constrained by time or space. Divinity is greater than the entire cosmos and yet smaller than the smallest atom.

This is the Divinity which Christ "shares" with the entire Trinity. There is only one Divinity. One God.

And Jesus is God and God can't sin.

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Mary was Jesus' mother.

And Jesus is God.

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I missed that part and used Lamaze. (P.S. We don't suffer "grief." They're called contractions.)

Yeah, I was the one holding the watch and telling her to breathe.
My wife also used Lamaze and our children (4) all were born through the birth canal.

It is you who said, "good grief"

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Originally Posted by De Maria

That doesn't address the question Wondergirl.

WG doesn't recall the question and is too tired to scroll back however far to find it (if it's even in this thread).

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And Jesus is God and God can't sin.

Jesus was also human and was capable of sinning, else all He did was in vain and is nothing to which we can relate.

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Yeah, I was the one holding the watch and telling her to breathe.

You got off easy.

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our children (4) all were born through the birth canal.

Which means what?

I said "good grief" because of what YOU said. I could have said, "Ach, du lieber!"

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

WG doesn't recall the question and is too tired to scroll back however far to find it (if it's even in this thread).

Jesus was also human and was capable of sinning, else all He did was in vain and is nothing to which we can relate.

You got off easy.

Which means what?

I said "good grief" because of what YOU said. I could have said, "Ach, du lieber!"

Schlaf gut Say good night WG

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Originally Posted by De Maria

Schlaf gut Say good night WG

Don't rub her nose in it.

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Originally Posted by Athos

Don't rub her nose in it.

She don't like it.