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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Good grief. Post 169 is my post. Look again.

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I did look again and you are correct. It's my error.

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I just explained why I asked the questions above. You did not answer again, so I'm done with it.

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If you are referring to the question asked in #169, you still have not answered WHY you are asking the question.

As to complementarianism, it was answered in #179 above

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Any description of complementarianism which does not include the word "complement" is not accurate.

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That is your opinion, and it is incorrect.

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You have no idea what it means.

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My description, hardly ludicrous, was right on target. Your not approving it is your problem, not mine.

Still no answers. Oh well.

Complementarianism has as its root the word “complement”. Can’t be understood or properly described without it.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Any description of complementarianism which does not include the word "complement" is not accurate. You have no idea what it means. Your description was ludicrous, and you can't even now define it.

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The definition of a word does not include the word being defined -- according to my 4th grade teacher, Mrs. Hedrick.

The root… not the word.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

The root… not the word.

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Nope. Do not define a word by using that word in any way, shape, or form.

"Complementarianism is the teaching that masculinity and femininity are ordained by God and that men and women are created to complete each other."

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Bad theology leads to moral decay.

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What are we talking about here? What is Bad Theology???

I came across this.

1. What anything is, is determined by what it is to God. Things are to us what we are to them. Light is most pleasant to the healthful eye, but nothing is more pernicious when it is diseased; food, in certain conditions of the body, will be as prejudicial as poison, and poison as beneficial as food. And there are who "call evil good and good evil," etc. And, similarly, God is to us what we are to Him.

2. In itself the gospel is God's spell, a message from God possessed of a charm. He that hath ears to hear it will be won by it; but "the wicked, who are like the deaf adder, will not hearken to the voice of the charmer, charm he never so wisely." In the gospel, God appears in all the attractive attributes of His grace, that He may regain the alienated affections of His rebellious children.

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I came across this.

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Please put those two points iinto short simple sentences.

With all due respect to your fourth grade teacher, the web's definition of the term is as follows. "Complementarianism is a theological view in Christianity, Judaism, and Islam,[1] that men and women have different but complementary roles and responsibilities in marriage, family life, and religious leadership."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comp...%20this%20view

One way or the other, it is hardly the biased description given earlier.

BTW, I did not mention "defined". I said, "Can’t be understood or properly described without it.". You need to readjust your glasses.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

With all due respect to your fourth grade teacher, the web's definition of the term is as follows. "Complementarianism is a theological view in Christianity, Judaism, and Islam,[1] that men and women have different but complementary roles and responsibilities in marriage, family life, and religious leadership."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comp...%20this%20view

One way or the other, it is hardly the biased description given earlier.

BTW, I did not mention "defined". I said, "Can’t be understood or properly described without it.". You need to readjust your glasses.

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That's the theological explanation of the word. The word different was used first with complementary FOLLOWING IT as added explanation. Wikipedia is smart enough to do it that way. The author of that explantion probably had Mrs. Hedrick too.

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Please put those two points into short simple sentences.

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The theology that has been described, is in fact contaminated?
This entire topic is irrelevant...it is not backed by the Word of God, aka the Bible.

You do know that we are a Bride? It's not like those of us are not going to be submitting ourselves to Jesus!
If I'm not mistaken, you understand it is easier submitting to Jesus, but not your husband?
Solution: If you don't like the idea of submitting to a man, don't get married?

WG, what a load of nonsense. It was used in the definition plain and simple. Sorry about that Mrs. Hafflebone (or whatever it was).

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You do know that we are a Bride? It's not like those of us are not going to be submitting ourselves to Jesus!
If I'm not mistaken, you understand it is easier submitting to Jesus, but not your husband?
Solution: If you don't like the idea of submitting to a man, don't get married?

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Good points, Walter. The wife, in her submission to her husband, is actually submitting to Jesus in the sense of doing that which pleases Him.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

WG, what a load of nonsense. It was used in the definition plain and simple. Sorry about that Mrs. Hafflebone (or whatever it was).

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Yes, it was used in the description but was never defined in that Wikipedia article. All that sentence says is that complementary roles are different. So what does THAT mean?

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Yes, it was used in the description but was never defined in that Wikipedia article.

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It was defined clearly.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

It was defined clearly.

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As I said earlier, that's the theological explanation of the word.

Here's another, and it likewise uses "complement" in it's definition. Poor Mrs. Hafflebone. "Complementarianism is the theological view that although men and women are created equal in their being and personhood, they are created to complement each other via different roles and responsibilities as manifested in marriage, family life, religious leadership, and elsewhere."

https://www.theopedia.com/complementarianism

Have to include this from the Babylon Bee. For the humor impaired, it is meant to be funny.

Complementarianism: Because of innate, God-given differences that are good, men are vastly superior to women and are therefore their masters in all aspects of life. Thus, men and women have different but “complementary” roles at home and in the church, such as men doing everything of any importance and women doing chores and being quiet.
Egalitarianism: The belief that there is no distinction between the roles of men and women in the church or society at large—we’re all just one giant, happy, genderless blob. The slightest suggestion that men might be gifted differently than women is anathema, and the offending party shall be drawn and quartered, per the bylaws of the United Egalitarian Council.

This one comes from the site definitions.com. It is, "Complementarianism is a theological view held by some in Christianity and other world religions, such as Islam, that men and women have different but complementary roles and responsibilities in marriage, family life, religious leadership, and elsewhere."

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

This one comes from the site definitions.com. It is, "Complementarianism is a theological view held by some in Christianity and other world religions, such as Islam, that men and women have different but complementary roles and responsibilities in marriage, family life, religious leadership, and elsewhere."

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Same as Wikipedia. Doesn't define the root word.

But it does use the root word in the definition. I'm sure Mrs. Hafflebone is apoplectic.

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But it does use the root word in the definition. I'm sure Mrs. Hafflebone is apoplectic.

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Yes, as am I. That's a HUGE no-no. You don't define a word with that word.

A carrot is a long, orange-colored carrot-thing.
Baptism is what an ordained minister does when he baptizes someone.
Jesus' miracles were miraculous.