Before you can take communion do you have to be baptist first.
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Before you can take communion do you have to be baptist first.
Most protestants don't do the communion thing... but Catholics do weekly.
Are you asking specifically about taking communion in a Baptist Church? It depends. Some Baptist churches require that you be a member of that particular congregation. Others are more open - either simply requiring that you be "christian" (which to a Baptist means something very specific), and still others are open to anyone who wants to come forward. I suggest you ask what the particular custom is at the church you are attending.
Not true - many protestant denominations include the Eucharist either every week, or close to it. Episcopalians, Lutherans, Presbyterians, and Methodists come to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I think you are asking if you must be baptized before you can take communion. Is that correct? Yes, you do.
Usually baptism comes first, even for adults, to show they are serious about becoming a Christian and want to be dedicated to the Lord. In Catholic and Protestant churches, Baptism is first, then First Communion and/or Confirmation (or in reverse order). Confirmation is the renewal of Baptismal vows. Being able to take Communion shows that you are a member of God's family and honor the sacrifice Jesus made for you.
Um... I disagree with you there... I grew up as a Methodist, and attended weekly... and I only ever saw it once a year... ever and never at certain churches, like the one I attended... in fact I never saw a communion outside of a Methodist religious retreat during the winter I attended annually growing... and never outside of there. And I have also attended Baptist churches as well as a couple others over the years... never saw a weekly communion there either... ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaines
Lutheran churches that have more than one Sunday service offer communion in one service one week, and in the other service the next week. Some congregations have a mid-week service for those who missed church on Sunday or who will be out of town on the coming Sunday. Very small congregations with only one service might offer Communion only once a month.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaines
Yes, if you do a head count, more Protestants do communion every week ( or at least every other) than don't, only a handful don't do it on a regular basis.
Episcopalians, Anglicans, most Lutherans, Presbyterians, and some Methodists have it every week. Other Lutherans, Methodists have it twice a month.
Most Baptist have it a couple times a year but there are 100 's of types of Baptists and 1000's of independent ones
The best way is to ask prior to the service if they don't say at the service.
Some Lutherans have a "closed" communion, others don't, most Anglican and Episcopalians have open communion, all methodists have open that I know of.
All of the Baptist churches I have been to ( limited number) have all had open communion . But there is always an exception I am sure.
*** In open I mean that you have to be a professed baptised Christian,
So if you count the number of members in Anglican, Episcopalians, Lutheran, Presbyterians and other churches, my guess is more Protestants do it every week ( or at least every other) than don't
Yes - I guess I should have said "United Methodist." There are Methodists and then there are Methodists.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Fr_Chuck - nice summary. I tried to give you a greenie but the system says I've been too generous to you!
Incidentally... I was a United Methodist. And yes... there is a major rift within the methodist church. Most of which occurred after the period I commented on... as I haven't attended regularly in recent years but did in my youth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaines
One very disturbing fact that all the other answerers are not aware of is that The Church Age ended in 1988. At that time God's spirit permanently left ALL the churches because of two reasons. It was God's plan that The Great Tribulation should begin. And the churches had become so apostate that ALL of them were not following the truth of the Bible, particularly in regard to salvation. There were, however, still SOME members who actually are true children of God. Now God commands all believers to come out of the churches because Satan is installed there, ruling officially. The scaraments that are performed there have no spiritual value of any kind. So the question of baptism and communion is totally moot. Except that those two CEREMONIES have some value as teaching tools to help us understand what God was doing during The Church Age.
Exactly what (self edited original comment) and where did you pull that one from HeadStrongBoy? And what cult believes that? The protestant Church (any of the branches I know anyway) doesn't teach that nor does the Catholic Church.
I found it. Harold Camping, of the-end-of-the-world-is-May 21, 2011 fame, "teaches that all churches have become apostate and thus must be abandoned. In the place of church he encourages personal Bible study and listening to his Family Radio broadcasts."
Harold Camping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
HSB must be a Camping follower.
Quoting smoothy:
Exactly what (self edited original comment) and where did you pull that one from HeadStrongBoy?
Bravo, did you actually READ what I wrote ? Careful, don't let it contaminate your thinking.
Wondergirls is correct, this time. I do follow Mr. Camping. Pretty obvious if one does just a little research. I never did try to hide it. I just did not make a BIG POINT of it. Ha ha.
If I remember correctly, in one of these threads, you had agreed with his reckoning about May 21, 2011. After that, my conclusion was easy. Plus, it helps to be a librarian with an excellent memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
But you can bet we won't be getting any apologies from HSB on May 22...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Got to go with WG here, HSB. After all, we librarians have to stick together ;)
It'll be interesting to visit this board on May 22nd... if it's still here. (har-har)
I read what you said... and while I make no claims about being the most religious person here... (and I even have Jehovahs witnesses as relatives so I know its not from there) that is clearly not a doctrine preached at any church or group I have been exposed to. And I have spent as much time in Catholic chruches as I have protestant wones the last 20 years (wifes catholic). Not once have I heard a Preacher, reverand or Priest say any of what you said in that post...Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
Never heard it elsewhere either... thats why I wanted to know exactly where that came from... not that I believe it at all (I don't)... just curious of the source.
Incidentally... I'm direct, sometimes ssarcastic... sometimes blunt... its just my style. No personal offense intended. I'm a slow and poor typist... its easier for me to be direct. I'm far more verbose in person than online.
I haven't read any of the follow-up links or posts yet... having one of those days at the office you never wish to repeat. Should by tonight however.
The church age ended in 1988?? Ha ha ha... well this has been one heck of a long 7 year tribulation. Too funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
To the OP-
According to my Bible you do NOT have to be baptist ( there were no baptist back in the first century church.) AND.. you do not have to be baptized in order to take communion I think it is a good idea though because the Lord asked us to. But I see NO verse that says you must be.
Agreed. That said, many churches have traditions or standards of their own regarding things like communion, so it's a good idea to find out what they are for the church you're going to and respect them accordingly. For example, when I was doing music ministry in a Catholic church several years ago, I wouldn't have dreamed of receiving communion because it's something extremely important to them, and they believe that only a full-fellowship Catholic can take it. Out of respect for that tradition, even though I don't agree with it, I abstained.Quote:
Originally Posted by classyT
As with so many other areas of life, it's all about balance.
Dave,
Yes. There are demonimations that have different rules and out of respect for them I would agree with what you said. But according to the bible that is just a man made rule... there is no such stipulation.
Agreed. (Good grief, we've got to stop doing that!! )Quote:
Originally Posted by classyT
Quoting classyT:
"ha ha ha...well this has been one heck of a long 7 year tribulation."
It is true that the number 7 features heavily in scriptures referring to the end times, of which The Great Tribulation is an important part. However, until very recently it has not been possible to understand the details of the end time very accurately. And many people continue to hold a variety of often conflicting points of view. But because of God's great mercy some have been able to learn, from the Bible, that The Church Age has ended. Thus baptism and communion are no longer to be practiced.
P.S. The actual length of The Great Tribulation will be 23 years.
When the church age ends I'm going to be raptured. I will be in heaven arguing with Dwashbur and he will be eating crow.. whilest I feast at the marriage supper of the lamb. That's my story and I'm sticking to it because that is what the bible says.. ( well it doesn't save dave will eat crow... I threw that in for grins.)
P.S. the actual length of The Great Tribulation will be 3 1/2 years according to the bible.. but the first 3 1/2 won't be a picnic.
Quoting classyT:
"P.S. the actual length of The Great Tribulation will be 3 1/2 years"
I know that many people read it that way. But the fact is that the 3 1/2 years are metaphorical (symbolic). They symbolize the first 2300 days. Though the information is available in more precise form, the 2300 days began in May of 1988 and went until about Sept. 1994. During that time virtually no one was becoming saved. THAT is the very difficult time you've referred to as "no picnic." The Bible refers to that time as "unless those days were shortened, there would no flesh be saved alive." Therefore in 1994 God once again began to pour out His holy spirit and to save many people OUTSIDE THE CHURCHES. 1994 was a biblical Jubilee Year. The next 6100 days of The Great Tribulation are the next 3 1/2 symbolic years that you've referred to. It will all end with the catching up May 21, 2011. Exactly 8400 days (23 years) after May 1988.
The preceding information has been worked out in great detail and is available FREE. No books for sale.
Well at least on May 22 we will be rid of HeadStrong, either he is right and poof, or he will have to come and admit all of his beleifs were wrong.
If it actually does happen that way, I will happily eat the black-feathered carrion-loving bird!Quote:
Originally Posted by classyT
I'll bring the recipes whipped up in the Texas mission that was reduced to eating them when the supply wagons hadn't come through yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwashbur
I'll bring chocolate cupcakes too (to kill the taste left in our mouths).
It's a date!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Okie dokie Headstrong... and if you are still here on May 22 will you just say you weren't predestinated? I'm cool with it myself.. I'm ready to go any time any day. And heck these last 23 years haven't been so horrible.. I don't know what God was talking about... (pouring out His Wrath on this earth what a jokester he can be)... geeze World World 1 and World World 11 were a far worse and it wasn't even the great trib. WHEW! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadStrongBoy
I guess that no man knows the day or hour thing just didn't apply here. Gotcha. ;)
So then we can expect the Lord to set up his earthy Kingdom... right? Starting May 22?
Lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by wondergirl
LOL! Nice try.. but he calls himself headstrong for a REASON. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
The church age ended and I missed it? And what's this about May 22?
Back to the OP, scripture laid out the rules in 1 Corinthians 11... it's between you and God.
Yes, I know churches all have their own rules, but basically it's between you and God. Being baptized or Baptist has nothing to do with it.Quote:
27 Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.
28 A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup.
29 For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.
31 But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment.
32 When we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned with the world.
Oh yes, by the way lost in here somewhere, did the OP ever come back and give us any more info
With one post showing for the OP... I can assume they haven't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
Quoting classyT and dwashbur (double-teaming):
Thanks for the verses..i shall be looking them up and putting them in context and I will help you out on why you are all screwy in ur thinking....ha ha You go, girl!!!!!
This quote is from another posting. But my point is that there is much "dancing around" and "good natured" kidding going on, but very little serious Bible research and effort to answer valid points of view, other than the ones held by CONSENSUS.
I am still waiting to be shown, FROM ACTUAL SCRIPTURES, exactly where my thinking is "all screwy."
And we're still waiting for you to prove your point in scripture. It's not up to us to refute something you haven't offered any evidence for.
Quoting speechlesstx:
prove your point in scripture
Please refresh my memory as to your exact question (point). I have been posting on several different threads. Thanks.
Quoting speechlesstx:
The church age ended and I missed it? And what's this about May 22
Are these the questions you're waiting for me to address ?
Headstrong,
You didn't prove your point. The scriptures you posted were totally out of context.. you don't go to Thess. To find out how to be saved and how salvation works. Hit up the book of Romans.
Also you never answered my question that Paul specifically answered to the guard when he asked what must I do to be saved? Paul point blank tells us how to be saved and how salvation works... and you go Thess. A book that is talking to the believer not at ALL about how salvation works or how to know you are to prove your point. Which I forget what it was anyway. You told me until I understood your point you wouldn't go further. So I dropped it. I am NOT side steppin you.
Speech,
Don't feel bad. We all missed the end of the church age. But on the upside we are almost done with the last part of the great tribulation period. Course I figured I wouldn't go through any of it but hey, it ain't been all that bad. :D
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