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DAVID WIKERSON Prophetic Message to New York 2
I was not aware of those until a few days before when I had a similar expirience and started searching for some kind of confirmation.
I am not asking you what you think about the persons,only about what they say!
I believe that and it will happen in a few major cities. I see it happening in around 7 to 9 years from now tops.
What is your heart telling you? Mine says: "Do the will of Our Father"Quote:
Originally Posted by adam7gur
I trust he is right in saying people will do things their way, and it was written Jeremiah 20:12 And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart.
Just yesterday I happened on to this scripture message: and as you can read death is found in sin, and strength in doing the will of God by serving God.
1 Corinthians 15:55-56 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1 Corinthians 15:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthinas 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
Romans 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
~FAITH is the law of God
How about this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by adam7gur
David Wilkerson Today: AN URGENT MESSAGE
Yes, I have read this one also, thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by sndbay
I was praying about my brother in law who for a few months now has moved to NYC, and he told us that he is going to fly back to Greece at the end of this month for a vacation somewhat and then The Spirit of God told me that in his (my brother in law) absence He will judge the wicked city.Gods will come down onto the wicked city and shake it so that no one will feel safe! I then started to pray to the Lord to spare the lives of people and judge only the wicked spirits that control NYC through people because I remembered Abraham and Moses who both intercessed on behalf of their people and because as Paul says our straggle is not against flesh or blood but it is against wicked spirits.
I had to test and examine myself and what I heard and so I started searching till I found the above mentioned sites.
I appreciate your help!
This is the first I have read of David Wilkerson, and I did review some of his teaching from the links on that web site. At the side he has offered God's Plan to Protect His People in the Coming Depression, And he does refer scripture with each statement he makes.Quote:
Originally Posted by adam7gur
FREE ONLINE: Chapter 9 "The Consequences of NOT Fully Trusting God in Hard Times " I felt was a very good teaching. You might want to read it in consideration of your brother-in-law. Faith can be our powerful armor, and of course scripture tells us so.
I think we get caught up in our lives on earth as being the relativism of life. And actually it is death by the works of satan that we have been spared from by giving us life eternal. Resting in Christ as our Faith shows us that the Saviour did raise, and so there is no fear for our lives on earth if we believe. So the struggle is whether we have faith in God, and can hold stedfast in full assurance of what Christ delivered to us. Standing upon the ROCK where nothing can move you.Quote:
Originally Posted by adam7gur
That is why I have been telling people for the past 30+ yrs they need to move to the mid west, between tha Mississippi River and Nevada before 2014. SOME of those areas will not even be safe either though.
I know you didn't want a reply about David Wilkerson but if anybody is interested
In the late 60's he converted the NY street gang the Mau Mau's whose leader was now Preacher Nicky Cruz
There were two books I know the Cross and the Switchblade was made into a movie
Not sure if Run Baby Run was made into a movie or not.
They also started Teen Challenge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zelqF0mamCw
I can't believe anybody pays any attention to this nut.
Personally I do believe that there are some hard times ahead not necessarily as Wilkerson predicts, but it could be so to some extend.
Evil is the shaker and mover of much too much of this nation and some others.
I'm particularly concerned about much of Europe which was once the leader of Christendom and has now largely turned way and into secularism and atheism as some of the USA as.
There is a spiritual war going on here with organizations like the ACLU trying to put people in prison for praying, even saying grace over a meal in a public place.
There is a trial on that going on in Florida on that right now.
That's just a sample of the anti Christianity movement that is going on and unfortunately many people are either backing it or treating such with apathy.
If God does indeed let His wrath fall on the USA and Europe all I can say it that we have asked for it.
Peace and kindness for all I hope and pray,
Fred
Thank you! I just did not want us to focus on the persons.Quote:
Originally Posted by N0help4u
I aggree with you about Europe and I think we are next,especially Greece my country,since Greece was the first nation that accepted Jesus Christ after Israel!Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
Adam,
Let us all pray for the mercy of God plus His guidance and help with those people who could or can lead and help us away from such troubled times.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
Do you really believe that?Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
Amen!Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
My FAITH in Christ is that we have already been given the answer to your prayer, and request. FAITH is to rest in what HE has foretold us of these events or sorrow. Christ has led us in assurance of God's power and strength. I say pray that we can be all HE created us to be, in doing HIS WILL. That evil will bow down and flee from us, so that we cause no harm to others, but speak of truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
Let's not forget what God has told us in the seals. Each seal is intended as knowledge to help us in the defeat of satan's works of evil here on earth, by understand our strength, and remaining stedfast in Faith.
Revelation 7:3-4 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
There will be times of trouble and it is foretold to us in each of the seals
#2 seal tells us of war, and the cries for peace
(6:3-4 Revelation)
# 3 seal tells us the economy and money will be off balance (6:5-6 Revelation)
#4 seal tells of illness, sickness, and hunger
(6:7-8Revelation)
Rest in assurance of HIS WORD, HIS PROMISE = FAITH
Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Cadillac,
Yes I do believe that.
Fred
How about astrology, do you believe that too?Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
cadillac59,
Nope, I do not.
Fred
What's the difference? They're both nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
cadillac59,
Thanks for your opinion.
I do not agree.
I hope that does not offend ypu.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
Why do religious people always crave horrible things happening to the world? They revel in the idea of calamity occurring and the world being destroyed. How pathetic, how hateful.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
You wonder why so many people say religion is a poison?
cadillac59,
You sure do have a dismal picture of religious people.
I know a lot of religious people and none of them are as you describe,"always crave horrible things happening to the world."
Horrible things have happen in this world and will continue to happen but the religious people I know and am aware of work and pray that such will not happen.
If and when they do a great many religious people do what they can to help ease the pain and suffering caused by whatever the trouble was.
It's called loving your fellow mankind.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
If it weren't for religion the world would probably be a pretty nice place. But with fellow mammals always thinking the have the right to tell everyone else how to live because their god told them so, all the while wishing for the destruction of the world so everyone will be under the thumb of their god, it should be no surprise the world has the trouble and terror it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
It is evil that is trying to bring this country down. We can stand by and watch or
Start praying and battle for our country. There are places on the net you can go
To and pray with others. There is a president prayer site I have been going to that is very good. What I see going on is hate talk that is growing almost out of control, people are paid to promote this. Who is going to stand up and battle this call to pray for our country
And stop the evil and hate that is burning across this nation. God is the answer and I hope you here the call to pray. Only though prayer can we tap into the limitless resources, of God.
Only by praying can we test the Lord's promise. "If you ask anything in my name, I will
do it" John 14;14 In love for our country we must unite ourselves for the good of our country.
Let us pray for the president and all elected, an appointed officials, that they will be able to
Carry out there duties, and do what is right for the country in a godly way. When godly
People are silent evil triumphs. This evil and hate must be stopped, it can effect every person
And everything in the US. Prayer is power and sharper then a two edged sword, it will
Bring us together in power. Pray like your life and country depended on it, because
It does. I am 78 yrs young, wife, a mother, grandmother, and great grandmother, there
Lives and your life and your love ones, depends on what we do, lets pray.
Hevenly Father, open our eyes and enlighten us to see the truth behind the evil and
Hate that is going on in our country. We seek Thy counsel, and put every problem facing
This country in your hands, asking You to give us an answer.I believe you will
Put the desire in our hearts to seek your face in this time, in Jesus name, Aman!!
Love ans Blessings, Maggie 3
Maggie 3
Amen!
I also pray that Joseph finds his place right beside the Pharaoh so that he can advice him according to God's will and save the people from the great hunger!
That is a prayer that God put into my heart for a time now and I thought that it has to do with my life only but I see now that it is a much more wide prayer!
Cadillac5,
Thanks for your opinion.
I think you will find it no surprise that I very much disagree.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
You seem like a really nice person, Fred. Maybe you are the exception, but most believers I've run into aren't as kind as you.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
I just can't generate any interest in the church anymore, or in religion. Maybe it's because I'm gay, maybe the church has hurt me too much in the past. Who knows?
I don't believe the seven years of tribulation have begun yet but when they do ,I don't see NYC as the only victim.
cadillac59,
All Christians are SUPPOSED to be nice. Unfortunately some are not; far to many.
If the bad members of The Church have hurt you I'm very sad about that.
I think that you and all of God's children should be able to find comfort and valuable guidance in The Church.
I believe that is part of why Jesus founded The Church.
I hope that you will find your way back and be happy with it.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
Thanks for your kind words, Fred. You are a good person.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
I haven't thrown god out the window totally, but if I come back to the church it will be as I am, as a gay man, totally out about it and proud of who I am without compromise.
cadillac59,
Thanks
I do believe God loves you and wants you.
Fred
Thanks Fred. You are what they call in Germany, a Mensch. You know, a human being-- a decent and good person (I think the Jews use the same word because they get it from Yiddish, a German dialect--'You're a real mensch!'--- I think I've heard some New Yorkers say that, but they say the same thing in Germany).Quote:
Originally Posted by arcura
cadillac59,
Yes, I've heard the word used that way.
I do know a smattering of the German language for my maternal grandfather was from Germany and spoke no English.
Thanks,
Fred
I wonder where the idea started that Christians are looking for death and destruction? Nothing could be further from the truth.
What we look forward to is a time when all sin, sickness, pain and sorrow will be banished from Earth.
That will happen when Jesus returns and sets up the Kingdom of God on Earth. Even the animals will be blessed in that kingdom, and the ground itself will produce as it did in the Garden of Eden.
What we attempt to tell everyone is this.
Just as you would make plans to take an extended trip that you are looking forward to, so you must make plans to make your home in the coming Kingdom.
The price of admission is already paid. All you need to do is RSVP.
And yes, I absolutely do believe what I have written. Neither you or I have any evidence to the contrary.
You don't know where the idea came from that Christians want to see the earth destroyed? That's part of your teachings-- the rapture and all that nonsense. That's wishing for the destruction of the planet and civilization and I think it is an abhorrent aspect of Christianity.Quote:
Originally Posted by galveston
This comment merely shows your total ignorance of what Christians believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillac59
Before you bash us, you need to at least spend enough study to learn what we really believe.
I know exactly what you believe. It's no mystery.Quote:
Originally Posted by galveston
Christians do NOT want the earth destroyed.
They just know it is inevidible.
I warned people for 20 years that 9/11 was going to happen on Sept 11 01 or Sept 11 02 and everybody thought I was crazy. Did that mean I wanted it to happen??
NOPE!
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