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  • Oct 25, 2007, 09:19 AM
    icecream
    My wife is a christian and I'm a roman catholic
    We got married at her church and now she is suggesting for a baby girl to be baptised at her church but, I kind of want her to have her christining at my church?

    This religion thing between us didn't come to my mind at all when I married her. I truly love her but need some advice.

    I honeslty don't go to church as much as she does (I stay at home on sundays, while she takes our baby to her church)

    I really need some advice on what to do and maybe someone can clear my head on what the difference is.. I know it sounds stupid!

    ANY opinions regarding this matter will help!
  • Oct 25, 2007, 09:22 AM
    icecream
    I have another question:

    We bought a house over the summer and she wants to house bless it twice. Have her priest and my priest come and bless the house (not at the same day)

    Any comments on that?
  • Oct 25, 2007, 09:26 AM
    J_9
    To answer question 1: If she is more religious and takes baby to church, have it baptised in her church. There shouldn't be a problem as long as the baby is baptised. If you are not particularly religious and don't attend church as regularly as she does, this should not really be a problem.

    Also, Catholics ARE Christians too.

    #2 So, what, have the house blessed twice. No biggy.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 10:07 AM
    RickJ
    1. You are both Christian.
    2. Since you are not as active as her, I'd suggest go and be active at her Church.

    In my opinion you owe it to the child to be as one on the faith issue. Not that it would be "bad" if not, but certainly better.

    All of the above is just my opinion.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 10:34 AM
    icecream
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9
    To answer question 1: If she is more religious and takes baby to church, have it baptised in her church. There shouldn't be a problem as long as the baby is baptised. If you are not particularly religious and don't attend church as regularly as she does, this should not really be a problem.

    Also, Catholics ARE Christians too.

    #2 So, what, have the house blessed twice. No biggy.

    Ya I kind of figured that! I was just being real stubborn like always! I really needed to hear that other than from our friends. Just cause sometiimes I think they take her sides more than mine... I don't know.

    Thanks J_9 she will be real happy to hear my answer :D
  • Oct 25, 2007, 10:36 AM
    icecream
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RickJ
    1. You are both Christian.
    2. Since you are not as active as her, I'd suggest go and be active at her Church.

    In my opinion you owe it to the child to be as one on the faith issue. Not that it would be "bad" if not, but certainly better.

    All of the above is just my opinion.

    Your right. I don't go to my church as much as I would like but, maybe going to her church as a family would make us a little closer than we already are :D

    Something I should really think about! Damn, WHY AM I SO STUBBORN WHEN IT COMES TO THIS!! Kind of pisses me off but, I can't help what I feel I guess...

    Thanks you 2 :D
  • Oct 25, 2007, 10:46 AM
    templelane
    Some people in these situations wait until the child is old enough to make their own decisions about which faith or denomination they wish to be.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 10:57 AM
    icecream
    I have another question:

    Should I consider myself as christian? Why am I labelled as catholic when the posts stated above mentioned that they are the same??

    Can someone school me on what the deal is please! Maybe if I can get more understanding on the topic, I can be more understanding to my wife as well.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 10:58 AM
    beatlejuice
    I think like everyone says, if she is more active then you should go to her church. Baby dedication to the lord more biblical than Christianing, because the child is not old enough to make the choice of babtism herself a baby dedication can be done
  • Oct 25, 2007, 11:09 AM
    templelane
    [QUOTE=icecream]
    Should I consider myself as christian? Why am I labelled as catholic when the posts stated above mentioned that they are the same??
    QUOTE]

    Me and my Catholic flatmate just discussed this.
    Point one - do you worship Christ? Then you are a Christian. Christian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Point two - why do non Roman Catholics (I'm looking at the protestants here) never say their denomination but just say they are Christian in certain countries such as Northern Ireland? My personal theory was that it was because many of these breakaway denominations believe themselves to be worshiping 'the one true version of Christianity' and if you believe yourself to be doing this then why would you say you were anything but just Christian?

    I just thought of another point- are you the Catholic?
    You should note that not raising your child catholic could get you excommunicated- as happened to by grandmother for the terrible crime of raising protestant sons. Things might be a bit more relaxed now, but worth a look into.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 11:13 AM
    ebaines
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by icecream
    I have another question:

    should i concider myself as christian? why am i labelled as catholic when the posts stated above mentioned that they are the same???

    A christian is someone who believes in Christ. Certainly all christian denominations, including Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox Catholics, and all protestant denominations such as baptists, methodists, lutherans, episcopalians, congregationalists, etc etc have christian memberships. However, some of the more fundamentalist sects have tried to coopt the word to mean specifically a person who is "saved," that is those who in their view have has made a personal commitment to the Lord. This seems to be more prevalent in the midwest and southern parts of the US (i.e, in the bible belt).
  • Oct 25, 2007, 11:30 AM
    Gernald
    This sounds kind of dumb but roman catholics are christians. They believe in Jesus, and the new testament just like any other christian.
    Being baptised or christened are very similar can happen in almost any church. If it really bothers you talk to your wife, she'll understand. If it's really a problem you need to discuss what religon you want your daughter to be, perhaps you should both speak to your preacher or pastor and get all of the facts and have them help you decide. They will both lean towards there own religon, but they can help you make a well informed decision if you don't know about one anothers religon.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 11:35 AM
    beatlejuice
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ebaines
    A christian is someone who believes in Christ. Certainly all christian denominations, including Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox Catholics, and all protestant denominations such as baptists, methodists, lutherans, episcopalians, congregationalists, etc etc have christian memberships. However, some of the more fundamentalist sects have tried to coopt the word to mean specifically a person who is "saved," that is those who in their view have has made a personal commitment to the Lord. This seems to be more prevalent in the midwest and southern parts of the US (i.e, in the bible belt).

    I don't know what bible you are reading but it says for you to become a child of God (christian) you must be born again hence receive Christ as your personal savior hence being saved. The Bible says who so ever shall call upon the lord shall be Saved. Its not about religious ceremonies like taking communion, attending church, recitin the aposels creed reading the catacism, baptism etc. all that is god but it does not bring you one inch close to heaven. Confessing your sin, repenting and inviting christ into your life as your personal savior makes you a Child of God. It is through Christ (not religious practices) that we become reconciled to God and that is how we become children of God.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 12:08 PM
    kindj
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by beatlejuice
    I dont know what bible you are reading but it says for you to become a child of God (christian) you must be born again hence recieve Christ as your personal savior hence being saved. The Bible says who so ever shall call upon the lord shall be Saved. Its not about religious ceremonies like taking communion, attending church, recitin the aposels creed reading the catacism, baptism ect. all that is god but it does not bring you one inch close to heaven. Confessing your sin, repenting and inviting christ into your life as your personal savior makes you a Child of God. It is through Christ (not religious practices) that we become reconciled to God and that is how we become children of God.

    Romans 10:9-10

    9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
    10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.

    For whatever that's worth.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 12:15 PM
    icecream
    Just out of curiousity.

    Can I ask all the people that posted or will post on my topic to state what your religion is please.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 12:21 PM
    beatlejuice
    Comment on kindj's post
    Yes, yes!
  • Oct 25, 2007, 12:24 PM
    beatlejuice
    Comment on icecream's post
    I am a christian, I do not like to say I belong to a denomination because I think it causes division in the body of christ. But I Guess my beliefes would be close to being pentacostal.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 01:58 PM
    icecream
    Thank you beatlejuice and kinj.

    Any roman catholics out there? If so, how do you feel about this whole thread? Anything at all!!
  • Oct 25, 2007, 03:42 PM
    savedsinner7
    Sorry can't help you. My husband claims Catholic and I am Charismatic.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 03:49 PM
    avenger9000
    You see when people ask me what my beliefs are, I just say I am a follower of Jesus, because the word christian is just... well you get what I mean
  • Oct 25, 2007, 04:29 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Catholics first are Christian, and I did not see what church you are talking about that she goes to,

    Honestly this sounds like a fake post,
  • Oct 25, 2007, 04:32 PM
    fallen2grace
    I don't think Catholics are Christians. Other people have their opinions. Catholics are like Christians, but there are some diffrences.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 06:39 PM
    Wangdoodle
    I am a Catholic and yes, I am a Christian. There are many differences between the Christian denominations, but in my opinion if one loves the Lord Jesus Christ and wants to do his will, then one can be called a Christian.

    In my opinion about the baptizing of your baby, congratulations by the way! The most important thing here is to have the baby baptized. Which church? Well this is what the married life is all about. You and your wife will have to work this out together. I would suggest praying about it together as well.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 06:52 PM
    Gernald
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by icecream
    just out of curiousity.

    can i ask all the poeple that posted or will post on my topic to state what ur religion is please.

    I don't know what I am actually?? Hmmm, not atheist, not catholic (I went to prochial school for a while though), not protestant well not anymore anyway.
    I guess I'm just a person who likes to read the bible and knows a little about a bunch of religons.
    If you don't mind what makes you ask this question? :rolleyes:
  • Oct 25, 2007, 07:00 PM
    RustyFairmount
    Amen, Wangdoodle! Congratulations, IceCream, on the baby and the choice to raise it following Christ's example.

    I am a Catholic. My wife recently chose to go through the RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults) which is the process that people become part of the Catholic church. As her sponsor, I learned that the Catholic church fully recognizes baptisms performed by other Christian denominations, provided there is official record of it (certificate, file, etc.). So fear not. Baptise the kid at your wife's church. If you want the little one to be in full communion with the Catholic church, make sure she goes to Catechism and receives the sacraments.

    As for the difference between "Christian" and "Catholic" I use this metaphor. In baseball, the original league, that is the National League was founded in the 1800s. The American League was founded in the 1900s. Both play baseball. Both observe the same basic rules. Likewise, the Catholic church is the original league, and the protestants came later. If you're a purist and want to follow the game of the original founders, Catholic is the way to go. But in the end: Does it really matter? Isn't it really more important to be out there playing ball??
  • Oct 25, 2007, 07:18 PM
    fallen2grace
    Im Christian...
    Rusty: It was my opinion...
    IceCream: I think you should baptise her at your wife's church. Only because your not that active in your church. Though, it probley wouldn't matter much. Just do whatever feels right I guess.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 07:27 PM
    canosa
    Hi,

    You said that you don't go to your church. Why you want your child to be batized in your church? Baptisism is not a ritual; rather, it is to embrace one's faith. If you don't even go to church, how come you want to baptize your child in your church.

    My advise to you is live your faith first, then, talk to your wife about baptisism.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 07:59 PM
    RustyFairmount
    Fallen: Understood. I was just stating a fact that I thought you might have wanted to know.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 08:41 PM
    fallen2grace
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RustyFairmount
    Fallen: Understood. I was just stating a fact that I thought you might have wanted to know.


    Yeah, I knew people would jump me on it too. >_< Thanks though.
  • Oct 25, 2007, 10:29 PM
    J_9
    First let me say that I am Roman Catholic, and yes, I am a Christian.

    Now, Christians believe in Christ... there are many denominations in Christianity... Protestants, Baptists, Christian Reformed, Presbyterian, etc.

    Then, there is Judaism. Just as in Christianity there are different denominations, sects, or branches... Orthodox, Conservative, and Reform, to name a few.
  • Oct 26, 2007, 04:09 AM
    RickJ
    Icecream, since you have a Christian background - and are open to being more involved with her, here are two places to do some reading on some explanations of things that are different about the Catholic Christian faith from other Christian groups:

    1. Here - the articles in the upper left under "Library".
    2. Here.
  • Oct 26, 2007, 04:15 AM
    silentrascal
    Situations just like this could have been avoided well in advance by heeding the Bible's counsel that Christians "marry only in the Lord", meaning that people are to marry fellow believers, not those of different faiths. Problems such as this (and a host of other ones as well) were well foreseen for interfaith marriages... hence that clear-cut scriptural counsel.
  • Oct 26, 2007, 07:07 AM
    templelane
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by silentrascal
    Situations just like this could have been avoided well in advance by heeding the Bible's counsel that Christians "marry only in the Lord", meaning that people are to marry fellow believers, not those of different faiths. Problems such as this (and a host of other ones as well) were well foreseen for interfaith marriages.....hence that clear-cut scriptural counsel.

    They did marry into the same faith! THEY ARE BOTH CHRISTIANS. Did you not read the other posts? Did you read the question?

    *shakes head in disbelief*
  • Oct 26, 2007, 07:27 AM
    J_9
    Sorry TL, but they did NOT marry into the same faith. Yes, they are both Christians, but he is a Roman Catholic and she is a "christian" (whether it be Baptist, Presbyterian or the like).

    Christianity engulfs a wide array of denominations. In the Catholic faith it is frowned upon to marry outside of the Catholic religion. This is the same with other denominations. A Baptist is to marry a Baptist, a Methodist is to marry another Methodist, etc.
  • Oct 26, 2007, 07:29 AM
    silentrascal
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by templelane
    They did marry into the same faith! THEY ARE BOTH CHRISTIANS. Did you not read the other posts? Did you read the question?

    *shakes head in disbelief*

    I suggest YOU learn how to read... they're NOT in the same faith. One is a Catholic and one isn't.

    Did YOU not read the posts or even the question?

    *doubly shakes head in disbelief*
  • Oct 26, 2007, 07:37 AM
    templelane
    Ah we seam to have a different defination of what 'faith' is. I think all Christianity is one faith separate form say Judaism. But I would consider a Baptist and a Catholic to be of the same faith but different denomination. This is where I have got confused.

    I still can't see how if they are both Christian they managed to not "marry only in the Lord" seeing as they both worship the Lord Jesus Christ. Isn't that still marrying into the Lord?

    I know it's frowned upon to marry outside Catholism because it caused a lot of strife for my own family. The whole messy situation just really annoys me so much trouble has been caused where I live form Sectarian tensions of this description.

    EDIT

    Sorry for any offence caused, I'm getting all worked up over this and I don't know why. Too much history I suppose.
  • Oct 26, 2007, 07:53 AM
    silentrascal
    [QUOTE=templelane]
    I still can't see how if they are both Christian they managed to not "marry only in the Lord" seeing as they both worship the Lord Jesus Christ. Isn't that still marrying into the Lord?
    [QUOTE]

    Not necessarily. Many people today claim to follow Christ (we don't worship him, he is the mediator between God and man), but then they won't do certain things that Christ commanded his followers to do (i.e. go out preaching to others about God's Kingdom), or they engage in activities and things that go against the Scriptures. If they married truly "in the Lord", then something like this wouldn't be a problem. They'd be of the same scriptural understanding as to what is required of Christians and what they are to refrain from, and so on and so on. It wouldn't be a question of "well he views it this way and I view it another".
  • Oct 26, 2007, 09:50 AM
    speechlesstx
    I know some (maybe even all) of this has been covered.

    1. Do you both worship the same Jesus as Lord? You're both Christians.

    2. Baptism, in my humble opinion and I believe scripture concurs, means nothing if it isn't a conscious, voluntary choice. Nevertheless, if you both want to baptize the child it couldn't hurt. Or pick one, it doesn't really matter in this case in my opinion. Just give the kid a good family, raise her to know Jesus and encourage her to make her own decision regarding her faith. God wants people to WANT to know Him.

    3. It really would be better for you to agree on one faith, but not impossible to deal with.

    4. Bless the house twice then go have some ice cream. :)
  • Oct 26, 2007, 09:55 AM
    icecream
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
    Catholics first are Christian, and I did not see what church you are talking about that she goes to,

    Honestly this sounds like a fake post,

    WHAT?! Kind of weird for you to post that.
  • Oct 26, 2007, 10:06 AM
    icecream
    Well I would like to thank everyone that posted in my thread. I now have a bit of understanding towards religion. It's crazy all of your posts really got to me! I would have never think that religion can be so complicated. IM SERIOUS! Its pretty crazy from my point of view. I have never actually learned my own religion or anyone else's.. I don't know... im confused... suprised... and OVERWHELMED on what you all posted.

    I think I know what to do NOW! Thank you so much guys. You all actually knocked some sense into me... I don't know... IT'S A VERY WEIRD FEELING!

    Thanks again!

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