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  • Jan 18, 2011, 09:23 AM
    helpme202
    How to go on a Hunger Strike without hurting Myself?
    Someone in my family stole $10 from my mother. I know it wasn't me; I would never steal, it goes as it goes strictly against my religious and moral codes. However, she will NOT listen. I know it was one of my brothers, but I can't get him to confess. My mother has taken all sorts of precautions against me. She want's ME to confess: and she won't even speak to me.
    I'm in a desperate situation: this all makes me extremely mad and sad... HOW could she think that I would do such a terrible terrible deed?
    My situation made me decide to go on a hunger strike. I am hoping, that either my brother will confess, because of the guilt, or my mother will realise that I am innocent, because no one guilty would actually go on a hunger strike to prove that they are innocent when actually being guilty.
    I am willing to be on strike until I die - if one of them don't realise what they are doing to me. However, if I don't die and they decide to tell, but in a couple of weeks, how do I minimize the amount of damage my body will have to suffer?
    I do have enough to burn, I am healthy, but about 12 pounds overweight, so I should be okay for at least 2 weeks... but what then?
    Please help me, someone, I am willing to do anything to get them to realise that I am innocent.
    Thanks -
    Sad and hungry in omaha
  • Jan 18, 2011, 09:26 AM
    smoothy

    Simple answer... there is no way.

    You have one choice... grow up. WHat you have said shows a high degree of immaturity.

    You ever hear that there are some fights you can't win? This is one.

    Really... you are willing to starve yourself to death over $10. How old are you anyway? I'm asking because this sounds exactly like the maturity level of a three year old that decides they are going to hold their breath because they were told they couldn't have the toy or candy they were demanding.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 09:36 AM
    helpme202
    Well that was very helpful. Thank you so much.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 09:44 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on helpme202's post
    I think that I can it will just take a little bit of work. What choice do I have? Have an extremely bad relationship with my mother from now on, because she thinks I'm a crook? Or swallow my pride and confess, even though I'm innocent. Answer that!
  • Jan 18, 2011, 09:45 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on smoothy's post
    I think that I can it will just take a little bit of work. What choice do I have? Have an extremely bad relationship with my mother from now on, because she thinks I'm a crook? Or swallow my pride and confess, even though I'm innocent. Answer that!
  • Jan 18, 2011, 09:53 AM
    excon
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    Originally Posted by helpme202 View Post
    What choice do I have?

    Hello h:

    You have LOTS of choices, and hurting yourself is one of them... I don't recommend it though, because it HURTS... And, starvation is one of the most PAINFUL ways to die. I DO recommend that whatever course you take, you STICK with, though, because it will show that you're serious. In MY world, however, hurting myself would be the LAST thing I would think of.

    So, if it was me, I'd just wait it out... If your mom thinks you're a crook, then she does, and you CANNOT change her mind... You'll be gone soon... There a LOT of life after you grow up.

    excon
  • Jan 18, 2011, 09:56 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on excon's post
    What else would you recommend? :| :(
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:04 AM
    smoothy

    Best thing to do... is swallow your pride. Being a willful and spiteful kid, isn't going to do nice things for you. Now or in the future.

    You are going to be accused of many things you never did in your life... and the best thing to do once you have told the truth... is stop dwelling over them.

    Maturity means more than chronological age. It is also wisedom.

    But one thing is for sure... you aren't going to win any battles against your parents... and you aren't going to win any sympathy, by acting like a petulant brat.

    By that I mean, and I am sure you have seen someone like that, so fixated on one thing that they won't listen to anything or anyone... and they always lose in the end... don't they.

    Because as an adult... even more a parent... YOU will be made to pay for it, maybe not today, maybe not even tomorrow... but you WILL be punished for it somehow... in some way.

    Also... while you may not have committed the act you are saying, it is NO excuse for your behaviour. I am sure you have heard the quote. Two wrongs don't make a right. This applies here.

    Like I said... behaving like that in itself, it rightfull in earning its own punishment.

    Also... there is another saying you will hear many times.

    Don't make a mountain out of a molehill.

    Other words... don't take a small thing... and make a big thing out of it. Which is exactly what you are doing.

    You know what, I wasn't there... I didn't see what happened either way... but usually when people get caught doing soemthing they shouldn't be doing, especially true with kids , its usually the guity are those that make the biggest stink.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:07 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by helpme202 View Post
    what else would you reccomend? :| :(

    Hello again, h:

    Biting your tongue, and waiting it out... It's like a prison sentence... You're going to be released when you're 18. You CAN'T fight 'em WHILE you're under their supervision. THEY (prison guards AND your parents) run the show...

    Besides, from a purely logical point of view, you can't prove a NEGATIVE... That means you CAN'T prove something DIDN'T happen.. You can only prove something DID happen. So, no matter WHAT you do, if the real crook doesn't come forward, you cannot prove your innocence.

    What I recommend is that you ACT like a person who never has, nor ever will, STEAL. If your parents DON'T see that in you, then they DON'T. It's THEIR loss.

    excon
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:23 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on smoothy's post
    You're probably a parent that thinks they have all the answers. Well guess what: you don't. If that stupid cow at least likes me a bit, she will give in first. And if I die, I don't care. Jesus awaits me in his heavenly kingdom.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:34 AM
    smoothy

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    You're probably a parent that thinks they have all the answers. Well guess what: you don't. If that stupid cow at least likes me a bit, she will give in first. And if I die, I don't care. Jesus awaits me in his heavenly kingdom.



    You have ALL the answers... I see...

    You are aware Suicide is a mortal sin... and you are aware Hell awaits those that take their own lives?

    Want to argue that point with your Reverand or Priest at your church? Want to bet you are in for one hell of a shock when you find out you are as wrong about that as well as everything else.

    Tell you what... you are just digging yourself in deeper..


    You know what... I now amsure you DID steal that money. ANd you somehow think you can pile enough lies up to convince others you didn't, where we adults have seen it all before...


    I mean sit back and list to you... you know everything... you are perfect... your parents know nothing... and you resort to insults to describe them.

    Yeah... really makes me want to believe you. ( And I'm being sarcastic if you can't tell).


    And incidentally... I'm not seeing anything endearing or likeale based on how you are describing your mother. And after all... if you act like that at home... its not hard to explain all of this on that basis alone.


    YOu never did answer the question of how old you are. Since you have already learned everything there is to learn, and know everything there is to know.

    Because I'm curious... I'm 49, and know what... I learn new stuff all the time. I didn't learn it all in Elementary school, I didn't learn it all in High school, I didn't even learn it all in College. In fact 30 years of living and working in 3 states, and two countries in the USA and Europe... I didn't learn it all, even as I learned to speak 4 different languages and can read a total of 6.

    Want to talk about knowing everything... I think you and Stephen Hawking could have an interesting conversation... because he's about as close as anyone alive today has gotten... and he's a long way from that goal. You can fill him in on the rest.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:43 AM
    Wondergirl

    Here's what I would say to my mom:

    "Mom, I didn't take the money, but since you're my mom and I love you, I'm willing to make it up to you somehow, maybe by doing an extra chore or giving you the money from my own stash of cash. Whoever did this was very wrong and I hope will never do it again, to you or to anyone else. I love you and I want you to be happy."
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:43 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on smoothy's post
    This is NOT suicide, this is DEATH FOR A CAUSE!
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:47 AM
    Wondergirl

    How many brothers are there? Why did she accuse you in particular?
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:47 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on smoothy's post
    By the way, I am 17 and going to college next year. And who are YOU to judge ME? You are making bad into worse...
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:49 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on Wondergirl's post
    Only 2. and she accused me because he's like 8 and her little angel. But you know what kids are capable of, they do bad stuff and don't even mean to and then lie to cover it up.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:50 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on smoothy's post
    also, you really think I would be willing to die for 10 dollars? Do you think that's the price I value my life for?
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:51 AM
    smoothy

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    btw, I am 17 and going to college next year. And who are YOU to judge ME? you are making bad into worse...

    Oh... `17 Of course... YOu are bestowed with infinate knowledge at 17... I forgot... behold the Teenage with ALL of lifes answers...

    Really... make it worse... take a step back... you are acting like a 5 year old having a temoper tantrum.

    You have seen young children have temper tantrums before... have you?
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:51 AM
    smoothy

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    also, you really think I would be willing to die for 10 dollars? do you think that's the price I value my life for?





    Your words... not mine.


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    this is NOT suicide, this is DEATH FOR A CAUSE!!





    Care to blurt out any more stupidity at this point?
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:52 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on smoothy's post
    it is also very nice that you mention all your qualities... wow you speak 4 languages, I am amazed. Well guess what, I speak 3 FLUENTLY and I am 3x younger than you.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 10:54 AM
    smoothy

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    it is also very nice that you mention all your qualities... wow you speak 4 languages, I am amazed. well guess what, I speak 3 FLUENTLY and I am 3x younger than you.


    And yet you don't have 1% the common sense or any of the knowledge I have.

    And I believe your commenents as much as I believe you didn't take that money and are upset you got caught.

    You know what... theres a 16 year old in Florida that thinks schools stupid and they can get a job and support themselves... You should hook up. You are perfect for each other.

    Between the two of you , you have the entire sum of the human knowledge bank... I assume we will have free energy and world hunger will be resolved by next week?
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:04 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on smoothy's post
    How are you to mock me? How are you to say that I am a thief? You know nothing about me. You don't know who I am, where I come from or what I stand for. You are judging me only based on a couple of words I wrote.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:04 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on smoothy's post
    Also, you must understand the complicated process which is going on in my confused head. You do not understand how hard it is for me to be convicted of such a terrible thing.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:06 AM
    smoothy

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    how are you to mock me? how are you to say that i am a thief? you know nothing about me. you dont know who i am, where i come from or what i stand for. you are judging me only based on a couple of words i wrote.



    When you are older and DO know a lot more t han you actually do now... you will learn how I and others here can do that.

    I know more about you than you want anyone to know just from your comments here.

    Human nature... they don't teach you that in high school.

    You already told me all I need to know... its all in what you said and how you said it.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:07 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on smoothy's post
    It is not fair for you to say these things about me. Understand that it is hard to prove that you are innocent, which is what I am. With all due respect, go to hell.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:07 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on smoothy's post
    This is going nowhere... I just asked how to survive a hunger strike, I never asked if you approve or not. You are wasting my time as well as yours.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:07 AM
    jenniepepsi

    Well my dear, the time has come for you to act your age, and realise that the world does not stop for you, nor does it move for you.

    You seem to have a LOT of anger issues, and deep resentment and hatred to your mother. I know what that feels like, my mother abused me all my life. But yet, I don't see anything that indicates anything other than your mother isn't a very nice person. So its time to act like the adult you so very much want to be. You suck it up. And keep your mouth shut. Until you turn 18 and move out of your mothers house.


    I say its time to talk to a counselor at school, or speak to your doctor about your feelings regarding your mother. Either they are rational and founded, and your mother needs to be investigated by CPS... OR they are IRrational and UNfounded, and you need some help to curb this anger of yours before you hurt yourself or someone else.


    Good luck hon. I am praying for you, and I hope you find what you are looking for, and soon.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:09 AM
    helpme202
    Comment on smoothy's post
    Oh how smart, you are comparing me to a first grader now. Yeah, real nice going.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:11 AM
    smoothy

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    also, you must understand the complicated process which is going on in my confused head. you do not understand how hard it is for me to be convicted of such a terrible thing.


    Really... You know I've been accused wrongly of far, far worse things in my life...

    $10 and you act like a drama queen looking for an award.

    You can only HOPE that's the worst thing you will ever deal with... and the fact is it won't be.

    In fact... I'm laughing so hard right now I had to stop and catch my breath.

    DO you know how funny that comment is.


    IF you have these sorts of mental issues... why are you not in therapy right now? Because, I seriously think that might be a good idea for you... before you do something really stupid that's going to get yourself in jail or worse. Because there is NOT a normal thought process going through your head right now.


    I mean... all this drama over $10... whats going to happen when its something really important or big?


    Cripes... just give your mom $10 in ones... and say " Its not the missing $10 but you need it more than me right now.."... and let it drop...
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:11 AM
    jenniepepsi

    Well my dear helpme202, how smart are YOU? Sitting here holding an immature battle defending your right to kill yourself? Hurt yourself? Hurt your mother?

    You are throwing a 2 year olds fit. The only problem is, you HAVE the eloquence and intellegences that a 2 year old does not. Which in turn, makes it much worse.

    You are 17 years old. You are going to be an adult very soon. And until you begin to ACT like it, you will be TREATED as such.

    You want to act like a child, you will always be treated like a child
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:17 AM
    smoothy

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    oh how smart, you are comparing me to a first grader now. yeah, real nice going.





    Act like first grader... get treated like a first grader... But most of them are better behaved.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:19 AM
    jenniepepsi

    I notice you arguing with smoothy, but ignoring any other good advice you are given. Are you just here to be an A$$? Just wondering if you actually WANT the help and advice you came here for, or if you just want to project
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:20 AM
    smoothy

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    it is not fair for you to say these things about me. understand that it is hard to prove that you are innocent, which is what i am. with all due respect, go to hell.



    Ooooooo big words... big man... I'm shaking in my shoes here...


    Bwaaahahaha... Cripes... what a loser.


    Time for you to look at therapy... I'm not your mom and don''t have to listen to your tantrums quietly.

    Because you are going to spout off to someone, some day and if you are lucky it will only result in a trip to the ER. Not everyone will listen to your ravings with the sympathy and tollerance we have here thus far. Something else you should already know since you have all the answers. You have seen the evening news, haven't you... a lot of what makes the news starts with someone being a smarta55. The ending usually isn't all that nice.

    As an adult... the first lesson (essentual to ones long term survival) is this... Don't start a fight you can't win. Time you learn it.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 11:56 AM
    Fr_Chuck

    Yes, a food or hunger strike, that will really make a parent know they are not the one, the only thing the parent will think is they are a theft and stupid.

    And yes, I agree you are acting and sounding on here like a first grader and I may be insulting some first graders.

    Parents are not always right but they are always the parent.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 06:37 PM
    AbovenBeyond
    Helpme202, in life people are going to accuse you of many things that's worse then 'stealing $10', I PROMISE YOU. But you only harming yourself and no one but you by treating everyone of those accusations with 'hunger strike' or 'I will hurt myself and won't stop until you say sorry' type of behavior; frankly they couldn't care any less. If you do succeed this time, it's because she's your mom and doesn't want to see you in pain, but strangers couldn't care less. Promise. Honestly, if you'd act that way to me I'll just walk away while you starve, choke, etc. yourself and won't give a damn. Honestly. Because I know that's much too small of a situation to try to act like its big deal.


    'Smoothy' I disagree with how you're dealing with this. If he's a child that's having a temper tantrum, you need to be the adult one and settle this the adult way. Not adding oil to the fire and having a fight with him.
  • Jan 18, 2011, 07:12 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AbovenBeyond View Post


    'Smoothy' I disagree with how you're dealing with this. If he's a child that's having a temper tantrum, you need to be the adult one and settle this the adult way. Not adding oil to the fire and having a fight with him.

    If they were only 7 I would agree with you... but at 17 they know better, or at least should, and they did admit to being 17 in this thread.

    A 17 year old is no adult... but they aren't a child either. And there is no indication the OP is a severely developementally delayed person.

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