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  • Aug 16, 2010, 06:15 AM
    ashleycam
    Outdoor cat maybe in labor
    My cat is pregnant, but she was such a thin cat, it is hard to tell exactly if she is ready to give birth. Her brother was trying to mount her yesterday so I brough her inside. The kittens are not moving (however since she is an outside cat, I have never seen them move) She is purring a lot and kneeding her claws into anything she can. Her nipples are swollen, so I am thinking labor soon. Is there any sure way to know. I feel bad keeping her locked up... but we hate to have her give birth outside and something happen.
  • Aug 16, 2010, 06:21 AM
    tickle

    Keep her in, provide a safe and comfortable birthing place and introduce her to it. She will do all the work, you can't interfere during the birthing process. Yes, from what you describe, she is ready.

    Tick
  • Aug 16, 2010, 06:25 AM
    ashleycam

    I have put her in the laundry room (yesterday around 5ish) she seems happy there. Laid out a few towels and there is a doggie bed, that my dog never uses haha. Laid in there with her a while lastnight and she kept trying to lay on my head so I had to leave her.
  • Aug 16, 2010, 06:29 AM
    ashleycam

    Is it normal for the males to try and mount her? I have had no experience with this before. We had a female have a litter about 2 years back, but no males were around.
  • Aug 16, 2010, 06:36 AM
    tickle

    I don't know if that is normal or not. Could be just a very confused male! Sounds familiar.

    Tick
  • Aug 16, 2010, 06:39 AM
    ashleycam

    Thought maybe since it was her brother he c ould smell or sense something. Either way with all 3 of my kiddos and my one experience at kittens being born I have learned a good lesson. It will happen at the most inconvient time haha. Poor little mopmma. She just wants petting and sleeping. This is a great site, thank you so much for giving a quick answer.
  • Aug 16, 2010, 09:06 AM
    ashleycam

    Update: She is still eating and drinking so I am thinking maybe she is just purring non-stop cause she is happy to be inside..?. Going to stay out of the room and leave her be for the day. I guess time will tell huh... I felt her tummy though, and though it is tight ( not like contraction tight, like she is just a lean cat tight) I can not feel the babies or anything. So anyway, will update later and let you all know.
  • Aug 16, 2010, 09:13 AM
    Emily94

    Since she is an outside cat I hope your planning on keeping her and her babies inside. I'd keep her inside from now until at least 8 weeks after the kittens are born. I don't know how to tell if a cat is going into labour, every time a cat had kittens it was when I wasn't home or she was just pushing them out (and usually it was VERY quick with her).

    Sorry I wasn't much help.

    We love pictures :)
  • Aug 16, 2010, 10:15 AM
    ashleycam

    Yes I do plan to keep her inside. I have 2 other cats outside and live in the middle of a hay field, so it is out of the question to leave her outside in 100+ heat to fend for herself!
  • Aug 16, 2010, 10:20 AM
    Emily94

    That's good :)

    Google "signs if cats going into heat" it will come up with plenty of things for you to watch out for. Give her a place to hide, my cat never had kittens in the open, she had them in the most weird places (in between the doors is one that comes to mind, nothing like opening up your door and having 5 kittens roll out onto your feet :p)
  • Aug 16, 2010, 11:48 AM
    ashleycam

    Haha,Ill bet. I have had 2 other sets of kittens ever. The first she had a breech kitten get stuck so we had to move her into the house(from under the porch) and accually pull the baby out. Umm yeah, I do not recommend this unless you have to, and then you may want to wear welding gloves cause she will not be gratefull to you ! The second one was about 2 years back and she had the kittens under the porch in a rain-storm. To make it a short story, I had to crawl under the porch in the rain and lighting and pull them out one at a time, then dry and warm them all. This time I will not let the cat out. FYI, not the same cat ever. We have a curse with cats. We take and get them fixed, they run away to our neighbors farm lol!
  • Aug 16, 2010, 02:54 PM
    hheath541

    Cats usually give birth in the middle of the night. There's really no absolute ways to tell when they're ready until labor actually starts. There are some things you can watch out for that may tell you if she'll give birth later that day, but not cats exhibit any one sign.

    Many cats stop eating, or just eat tiny amounts.

    Some cats go through a personality change. A friendly cat suddenly starts growling and scratching, while a loner cat will want cuddles.

    Some cats get restless and start wandering around, looking for a suitable birthing place. What you think is suitable, is usually not where the cat will pick.

    Some cats start talking a lot.


    The only SURE way to tell if labor is started is if you can see her contracting. Even then, a cat can stop labor for up to a day if she doesn't feel completely safe to have her babies.
  • Aug 17, 2010, 05:35 AM
    ashleycam

    Well, follow-uping. She is still pregnant. She meowed at the moon lastnight ALL NIGHT. She wants out so badly, but she's stuck inside. Still lots of kneeding ( have all the marks on my body to prove it too), still lots of deep sleep and lots of purring. She is still eating small amounts too, so not thinking its happening today. SIGH, I am too old to keep laying down on the tile floor with her though lol. She meows until I come in, then she lays in front of the door so I can not leave haha.
  • Aug 17, 2010, 05:39 AM
    ashleycam

    She has never been loving until yesterday. She is like I said an outside cat, and will allow us to pet for a second then leave. Now I can not pet enough for her. Yes, I have been watching for contractions, but none yet that I have seen. Babies did move a lot over-night. I have her in the laundry room. I have 2 towels and a bed, plus an empty cardboard box bottom. It is not huge, but it is big enough that if she wants me in I can still give her plenty of private space while being there for suport. Od thing though, she will drink A lot, then dump out the water and lay in the wet spot where it spills... ALso likes to dip her ear and cheek into the bowl.
  • Aug 17, 2010, 07:08 AM
    Emily94

    She could be hot, depending on where you live your house may be hotter than outside. When I had outside cats they came into the porch during winter, they'd just lay there and pant until they could get used to the temperature differences. How far along is she? (roughly)
  • Aug 17, 2010, 08:25 AM
    ashleycam

    Guessing... pure guessing too, Id say 8-9 weeks.
    Honestly the males trying to mount her and the non-stop kneeding and purring are what made me think labor. She maybe still in early stages I guess... or maybe not. Heck all I know is she refuses to let me leave her when I go in. She lays in front of the door or ontop of me lol. Still kneeds nonstop though, even kneeds the air.
  • Aug 17, 2010, 10:21 AM
    hheath541

    I spent two weeks thinking my edith was going to give birth that night. When she finally did go into labor, there were no early warning signs. She started wandering around aimlessly about an hour before the contractions started. Other than that, none of her behavior changed the day of.
  • Aug 17, 2010, 10:43 AM
    Emily94

    Cats are usually pregnant for about nine weeks. So she is around there.. Try ripping up some newspaper (Shredding it so it is in long strips) and placing it in the bed, she can then make a better nest, my aunty did this and the next day she woke up to kittens. If she seems distressed (Since she is so close yet no kittens) take her to a vet and see what's up, she may not show signs of distress but just watch to make sure. If you can feel the kittens (Which you said they weren't moving I will assume you can) feel how large they are, if they are about the size of the other kittens you have dealt with is a sign there ready to come out. Cat's are weird when having kittens, somedays they act like it times, and then the next day they act like there not even pregnant.
  • Aug 17, 2010, 10:45 AM
    ashleycam

    Hheath, yes that is what I am kind of in fear of I guess. I did finally let her out of the laundry-room ( just closed all the other doors in the house) She is walking around meowing wanting lovings. I am now kind-of wondering if maybe we are going to just hve to keep her in for however long. Not knowing how far she along she is makes it sooo hard. No cleaning herself or any of that so maybe I was wrong. I will keep you all updated.
  • Aug 17, 2010, 11:54 AM
    lJ.

    Keep her inside, and try to encourage her to relax in a comfortable space, for example you could create little areas with blankets and her favorite toy and water a few places around the house. Cats, when pregnant will try to find a place alone maybe under a bed or somewhere, to have their kittens so you could set it up there. Also, for safety reasons, I would recommend letting the kittens grow up as indoor cats, but that is your decision, and that's just my opinion. Also once the kittens are born, you should definitely take them to the vet so they can get their shots, and regular check ups, etc. Q: My Cat Is Pregnant Should I Take Her To The Vet? - Pet Care Experts Answer!
    Good luck!
  • Aug 17, 2010, 07:35 PM
    morgaine300

    Is this male who keeps trying to mount her neutered?
  • Aug 18, 2010, 05:58 AM
    ashleycam

    Morgaine, no not yet. We can't just go adopt a cat where we live, it is 75 per cat. As my cats are all outside cats and run off sometimes I do not pay that much. We needed a litter so were waiting till the Sammi had a litter to neuter. Also thought that since he is her brother they may not mate, hubby says that anyway.
  • Aug 18, 2010, 10:52 AM
    hheath541

    cats don't care if they're related. Had two cats, thought they were both boys, until one of them got pregnant. She has 4 little inbred babies ^_^
  • Aug 18, 2010, 11:45 AM
    ashleycam

    Hahaha hheath. Well I have been letting her out of the laundry room to roam, just closing all other doors. She seems to be doing fine.
    Have you ever heard of a male cat mounting a pregnant female? I knew a male would kill the litter after birth, but never heard of him trying to mount her pregnant.
  • Aug 18, 2010, 01:48 PM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleycam View Post
    Have you ever heard of a male cat mounting a pregnant female? I knew a male would kill the litter after birth, but never heard of him trying to mount her pregnant.


    Yes, litter mates will mate. Why do you think there are so many barn cats; my present cat Pickle came from a barn of probably 30 or 40 cats, mom and dad and all sons and daughters. Cats don't have to worry about genetic disorders from inter breeding. My own barn cats started to do that until I just started weeding them out and got rid of them. They interfered with me taking care of my horse and cattle. Always underfoot looking for food.

    Probably that male is excited by her pregnant scent, that's why he is mounting her.

    Tick
  • Aug 18, 2010, 02:13 PM
    ashleycam

    Hmm, well you learn something new everyday! I feel bad for her, she is such a thin kitty, all these babies must be part kangaroo cause her entire side just moves.
  • Aug 18, 2010, 02:46 PM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleycam View Post
    hmm, well you learn something new everyday !! I feel bad for her, she is such a thin kitty, all these babies must be part kangaroo cause her entire side just moves.

    Should be interesting how many she has !
  • Aug 19, 2010, 01:32 AM
    morgaine300
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleycam View Post
    morgaine, no not yet. We can't just go adopt a cat where we live, it is 75 per cat. As my cats are all outside cats and run off sometimes I do not pay that much. We needed a litter so were waiting till the Sammi had a litter to neuter. Also thought that since he is her brother they may not mate, hubby says that anyway.

    The only thing I could possibly answer to this would be extremely rude, so let's just put it that I have some SERIOUS issues with what you're doing here. My mind can't comprehend this.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 05:21 AM
    ashleycam

    With what I am doing? Im sorry, I do not understand what I am doing that is so awful. Other than keeping her inside, that I feel guilty about. Hun, I live in a hay field, there are 3 other houses around. We all-together have 40 acres of hay fields. The cats are safe, they hunt the snakes and lizards and mice an such. All of us have barns and porches so the cats have lots of safe places to be when they want to. All of us keep out the same brand of food. I have a litter from almost every female and the spay&neuter all of them after words. I personally think I am pretty responsible. All of my cats have shots and vet visits when needed,(unlike many who seem to come here saying I can't afford to take my cat to the vet so help me). I am very sorry you feel so consernd.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 05:23 AM
    ashleycam

    Update: she has a hard time getting comfortable and has no interest in playing. We had a balloon bouncing on the floor lasxtnight and she just looked at it then went to sleep. Still eating and drinking. She drinks A LOT, she has discovered our glasses have water and the potty has water lol. This is going to be my first day of going back to work so she will be in her room all day though : ( . Increasingly restless and though she wants to be in the room we are in, she no longer is wanting to be ontop of us... just lays a bit away on the floors (prob cooler as they are hardwood)
  • Aug 19, 2010, 11:50 AM
    hheath541

    Sounds like you may have a bit of a wait, yet.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 01:55 PM
    ashleycam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hheath541 View Post
    sounds like you may have a bit of a wait, yet.

    Yes, thinking (hopeing) not more than a week though. School starts here on Monday which means it is going to be crazy busy for a bit. Talked to vet, she wanted to x-ray to see how far... I passed.
  • Aug 19, 2010, 02:10 PM
    hheath541

    yeah, an x-ray just isn't needed. It would cost money you don't have to spend, and wouldn't really accomplish anything. You'd still be waiting, you'd just have an idea of how long you stood to wait.

    plus, if doctors don't like to x-ray pregnant women because of possible health risks to the baby, I can't see how it would be healthy for a pregnant cat.
  • Aug 20, 2010, 07:34 AM
    ashleycam

    Less purring, no kneedig to speak of. Still not playful and the loving is back to what it use to be... you may pet me for 2 minutes then get away from me... haha. She is liking walking around the house though. Lastnight descovered she could fit under the sofa if she flattened herself out and belly crawled lol.
  • Aug 20, 2010, 07:35 AM
    ashleycam

    Ummm so will I get introuble for keeping this updated?? Does anyone even care if it is updated lmao!?
  • Aug 20, 2010, 07:40 AM
    redhed35

    Yes, we care.

    We like our animals here and always hopeful for a happy ending.

    If you don't post,ill worry about the cat and kittens!

    Edit: I can't offer you any more advice then what you have already gotten, but I'm interested in the outcome..
  • Aug 20, 2010, 07:41 AM
    Emily94

    Nah, you can update your thread whenever, a couple months ago I updated on that was over a year old, the people helped me a lot so I thought they deserved to know (and it took a year for it to happen)
  • Aug 20, 2010, 08:52 AM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hheath541 View Post

    plus, if doctors don't like to x-ray pregnant women because of possible health risks to the baby, i can't see how it would be healthy for a pregnant cat.

    Just a minor correction hh; they don't x ray pregnant women, they ultrasound.

    tick
  • Aug 20, 2010, 09:01 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    Just a minor correction hh; they dont x ray pregnant women, they ultrasound.

    The vet had said he would x-ray the cat, and hheath said pregnant human women are not x-rayed, so why a cat? And yes, why not ultrasound for the cat, maybe to determine the size and number of the kittens?

    I too am waiting for news -- and pictures!!
  • Aug 20, 2010, 09:19 AM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    The vet had said he would x-ray the cat, and hheath said pregnant human women are not x-rayed, so why a cat? And yes, why not ultrasound for the cat, maybe to determine the size and number of the kittens?

    I too am waiting for news -- and pictures!!!

    Yes, some vets have ultrasound to monitor medical conditions in animals such as obstructions in bowels, etc. I guess the question is, can a vet afford to have an ultrasound, as I know they do share them occasionally because of the cost in owning one.

    Tick

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